1. Post #5521
    Eyes like a god damn hawk
    H4wkeye's Avatar
    March 2011
    4,064 Posts
    I found out today that the one 4chan guy was right; it's not quite infinite loading, it's someone on the list simply not being able to load the level and causing everyone else to be stuck on the screen until their loading fixes or otherwise. Add onto that the people that leave and then new people take their spots and also have to load. At least, this is what I assume is the case; got two cases of 'infinite loading' but simply waited them out and then managed to get into both games.

    If anything, it's a problem with Rockstar's method of starting multiplayer matches; anyone can come and go as they please mid-match, but it forces itself to wait until everyone's loaded up from the lobby, which is probably the main problem.
    Ah, that makes sense.
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  2. Post #5522
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    December 2006
    997 Posts
    Just starting chapter 9.    I was told my small issues with the plot would be improved later on. So far they have not been. Don't get me wrong, I am absolutely loving every second of this game. It's just at this point I'm wondering why they didn't just do the whole game in Hoboken. So far everything happening in Brazil is more of a job to Max and doesn't seem very personal. Does anyone else feel the same way(warn me if you're posting spoilers for any chapter after 8)?   
    Don't worry, things will get solved at the endgame.

    Also I remember this one argument about Max talking about everything like he was speaking to us, rather to himself. Well, how many of guys a had chance to visit this city? He is explaning because he is the same situation you guys are: on a place far away from home, where he doesn't know the language (I mean, really, at least the basics he should know) and things went to shit a lot fast.

    To me, it's different: I'm playing the game seeing like what a foreigner ('gringo') would see my country.
    Most things that happens in the game    (except the endgame and blowing up planes)    happens for real here, I mean, the rich are very rich () and throws parties all the time, and the poor are very poor ('How many poor kids want nice sneakers?') and several other things like    corrupt forces working with the gangs, sorry, criminal organizations, cutting deals and shit. I suspect that illegal body parts trafficking happens here, but the media hasn't discovered that yet.   

    And like I said before, besides the fake places (the club, the favela, the bus terminal), this is São Paulo, from best to worst; Rockstar really captured the city's feeling.

    Just giving my input. Also finally my city gets some love from devs, suck it Rio de Janeiro.

    Edited:

    Well he's not as emotionally attached to them. It seemed to me he did it only out of his personal convictions.
    This too.
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  3. Post #5523
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    OH-SNAP!'s Avatar
    September 2009
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    Anyone know a good way to rank up faster? I've been playing TDM most of the time, and occasionally some Deathmatch and Payne Killer. Some levels just take forever to get through...
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  4. Post #5524
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    February 2006
    1,422 Posts
    The first Max Payne is about Max avenging the death's of wife and kid, basically. The second game is coming full circle and cutting out everyone ever involved in their deaths. The third game is about him getting over their deaths and how necessary it is for him to literally leave the country to finally find peace with himself and everyone involved with him. So what's significant about what happens in the third? Well, he still goes by his cop mentality (loyalty to the badge to the end I suppose). He feels somewhat obligated to be here to do something good to give himself closure from the clusterfuck failure of a life he has lead for the last few years. He can't explain what drives him but he ponders on the idea that perhaps he's doing it because it's not just morally right but it's also giving him a purpose thus satisfaction, imo.

    He hates himself. He's guilty of all the friends he has lost, guilty for    the affair with Mona Sax   , guilty for    killing the model cop Winterson   . I think it's clear that he's doing everything as a means of redeeming himself once more. If he's killed in the process then he doesn't care; At least he'd know he died doing something morally right.

    There is absolutely no reason why Max, given the comics, the ending of MP2 etc. for another Max Payne game in NYC again. MP3 makes perfect sense for what he's doing if you ask me.
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  5. Post #5525
    Dr. Conro J. Norock, Robot Sarcasm Master
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    July 2007
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    I'd like to mention as a guy in Joisey, the Hoboken levels are 100% accurate to living in this state. Hell, Chapter 4 was my daily commute to elementary school every day.
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  6. Post #5526
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    April 2005
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    I'd like to mention as a guy in Joisey, the Hoboken levels are 100% accurate to living in this state. Hell, Chapter 4 was my daily commute to elementary school every day.
    Well you certainly had an interesting childhood..
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  7. Post #5527
    Dr. Conro J. Norock, Robot Sarcasm Master
    Conro101's Avatar
    July 2007
    7,651 Posts
    Well you certainly had an interesting childhood..
    I lost my wife and kids when I was 6
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  8. Post #5528
    BloodFox1222's Avatar
    April 2011
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    Okay when you take multiple screenshots in a short amount of time, isn't steam supposed to not include the screenshot overlay in the shots?
    You can disable that, Go to options and then screenshots.
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  9. Post #5529
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    guicool-BR-'s Avatar
    December 2006
    997 Posts
    The first Max Payne is about Max avenging the death's of wife and kid, basically. The second game is coming full circle and cutting out everyone ever involved in their deaths. The third game is about him getting over their deaths and how necessary it is for him to literally leave the country to finally find peace with himself and everyone involved with him. So what's significant about what happens in the third? Well, he still goes by his cop mentality (loyalty to the badge to the end I suppose). He feels somewhat obligated to be here to do something good to give himself closure from the clusterfuck failure of a life he has lead for the last few years. He can't explain what drives him but he ponders on the idea that perhaps he's doing it because it's not just morally right but it's also giving him a purpose thus satisfaction, imo.

    He hates himself. He's guilty of all the friends he has lost, guilty for    the affair with Mona Sax   , guilty for    killing the model cop Winterson   . I think it's clear that he's doing everything as a means of redeeming himself once more. If he's killed in the process then he doesn't care; At least he'd know he died doing something morally right.

    There is absolutely no reason why Max, given the comics, the ending of MP2 etc. for another Max Payne game in NYC again. MP3 makes perfect sense for what he's doing if you ask me.
    Besides, everyone that he knew died, either by his hand or in his hand, except him.

    I guess that PassosBro will die on Argentina, too much exposure to Max Payne makes me wonder why he didn't die already.

    Edited:

    Also I saw a woman, on my way to college with a shirt with 'Max Payne 3' on it.

    This one here: https://www.rockstarwarehouse.com/Pr...RS-TEE-MAX3-LG
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  10. Post #5530
    Nitro836's Avatar
    June 2010
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    So what happened to the footage someone took of FAPS's game of tag?
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  11. Post #5531
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    June 2007
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    So having things go to shit during a Gang Wars retrieval match, I decide enough is enough and decide to do something silly.

    I shoot dodge of a high roof in Tiete Docks and holy shit. Three headshots are accomplished before landing, rolling to cover then letting lose with a looted AK at the rest of the enemy team then sprinting to pick up the bag.

    Retrieval is the best damn gamemode, hands down.
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  12. Post #5532
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    March 2008
    1,906 Posts
    Yeah, I do get what you mean. It doesn't really have much to do with Max at all. The first game was about avenging his wife and daughter's deaths, the second game was about resolving things with the rest of the characters, and the third game is just... some random shit that just sort of happens.
    I completely disagree. The third game is Max attempting to redeem himself. He feels so guilty for everything he did in the second game, as well as for the death of his family, that he feels the need to do everything he can to save this woman. He's trying to prove to himself that after all this shit he's still a good man.
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  13. Post #5533
    Hullu V3's Avatar
    October 2009
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    When I was banned from facepunch yesterday, I could join EVERY SINGLE game successfully. Now that I'm not, I can't join shit.

    If anyone wants to play this game, get banned from facepunch.

    There is no other way!
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  14. Post #5534
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    November 2008
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    Just finished the game. My god it is amazing.
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  15. Post #5535
    Ah yes "opinions"
    Jackald's Avatar
    October 2005
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    Besides, everyone that he knew died, either by his hand or in his hand, except him.

       I guess that PassosBro will die on Argentina,    too much exposure to Max Payne makes me wonder why    he didn't die already.   
    Nah that's why i love the ending    Max is free, he's like an Uncle or a Godfather to Passos' kid; they're the family he never had, he's going to protect them growing up as repentance for not protecting his own kid and wife; it's like a chance to redeem himself by giving him a second chance.   
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  16. Post #5536
    Dennab
    January 2010
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    Nah that's why i love the ending    Max is free, he's like an Uncle or a Godfather to Passos' kid; they're the family he never had, he's going to protect them growing up as repentance for not protecting his own kid and wife; it's like a chance to redeem himself by giving him a second chance.   
    That sounds plausible, but how the Hell is he going to do that now?    The ending showed him in Baha or some shit, I'm expecting that he's not going to be able to just help them whenever.   

    Also he's pretty old, too. He's a fat, bad tempered American
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  17. Post #5537
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    June 2010
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    That sounds plausible, but how the Hell is he going to do that now?    The ending showed him in Baha or some shit, I'm expecting that he's not going to be able to just help them whenever.   

    Also he's pretty old, too. He's a fat, bad tempered American
    Did you see his age and alcoholism, not to mention painkiller addiction stop him from doing feats requiring godly reaction times during the game?
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  18. Post #5538
    Ah yes "opinions"
    Jackald's Avatar
    October 2005
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    Max Payne 1 - Revenge
    Max Payne 2 - Guilt
    Max Payne 3 - Repentance

    I'm purely speculating, Nitro, but I think after    his vacation in Bahia, he'll want to protect Passos' kid. You know if Passos called Max and said like "Max, I need help, gang X is trying to kill my family", Max would haul arse to protect Giovana and her kid.   

    The parallels between Max and Passos are kind of interesting actually. You could compare Passos to a pre-max payne 1 Max.
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  19. Post #5539
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    February 2006
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    I completely disagree. The third game is Max attempting to redeem himself. He feels so guilty for everything he did in the second game, as well as for the death of his family, that he feels the need to do everything he can to save this woman. He's trying to prove to himself that after all this shit he's still a good man.
    I suppose I can see where you're going with this, and I am inclined to agree. But honestly, I don't really see Max Payne 3 as essential to the overall Max Payne story. Though I would definitely recommend it to any fan.

    Also, this is an incredibly intelligent and interesting read about Max Payne 3's multiplayer.:

    http://www.escapistmagazine.com/foru...-What-the-hell
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  20. Post #5540
    ellibob's Avatar
    October 2005
    189 Posts
    Does everyone here think Multiplayer is well balanced? Also I applied for the FP group but I dont think I'm in
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  21. Post #5541
    RikohZX's Avatar
    September 2009
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    Does everyone here think Multiplayer is well balanced? Also I applied for the FP group but I dont think I'm in
    It really depends on the loadouts folks bring into a round. If everyone's running around with AKs, Mini Uzis and pistols, it's typically pretty fun (although pistols are pin-point accurate with next to no spread, so they're a wee bit on the OP side if used excellently). But if people are running about with the Mini-30 or the one sniper rifle and heavily armor up to survive retaliation (although they might also go without armor), there's bound to be issues since the Mini-30 is also pretty accurate if you don't try to shoot it rapidly, and the sniper rifle one-hit kills.

    Edited:

    Also, fuck you people who use the RPG in Payne Killer mode.
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  22. Post #5542
    ellibob's Avatar
    October 2005
    189 Posts
    Yeah I was just wondering if anyone else thought the sniper is OP. I've also seen people rapid fire with the mini30 pretty accurately so I don't like it.
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  23. Post #5543
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    March 2006
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    So,    was Passos lying when he said that he went to the academy with Max? The way DeSanta says "did he?" when Max brings it up makes me think he told to say that by Victor to convince Max he was a good guy.   
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  24. Post #5544
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    May 2008
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    So,    was Passos lying when he said that he went to the academy with Max? The way DeSanta says "did he?" when Max brings it up makes me think he told to say that by Victor to convince Max he was a good guy.   
    He probably was, but    Passos probably used it as an icebreaker, rather than for persuasion. Max knew that Passos wouldn't do something extremely terrible though, even if he had information kept from him.   
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  25. Post #5545
    Dangit Peggy, who threw out this mayon naise jar; I use it to store, extra screws.
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    So,    was Passos lying when he said that he went to the academy with Max? The way DeSanta says "did he?" when Max brings it up makes me think he told to say that by Victor to convince Max he was a good guy.   
    The game leaves so many open questions that I doubt this will be the last Max Payne game. The Max Payne universe has plenty of open stories that could be explored.

    Max after Max Payne 3, doubtful Rockstar would start right where they left off.

    Max with Alex during his years at NYPD would be a very interesting game and would be a great reason to go back to the old New York setting for Max Payne.
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  26. Post #5546
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    The game leaves so many open questions that I doubt this will be the last Max Payne game. The Max Payne universe has plenty of open stories that could be explored.

    Max after Max Payne 3, doubtful Rockstar would start right where they left off.

    Max with Alex during his years at NYPD would be a very interesting game and would be a great reason to go back to the old New York setting for Max Payne.
    Agreed, I think if they do another Max Payne game, it would be best to do a prequel. That would be pretty good, doesn't hurt to get more of an insight into Max as a character.
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  27. Post #5547
    Walrus.'s Avatar
    November 2009
    2,413 Posts
    Oh god some of the punchinello taunts

    "I'm gonna grease you, then fuck your corpse!"
    "I'm gonna whack you, then
    -fuck your mother
    -piss in your face
    -shoot your dick"
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  28. Post #5548
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    June 2010
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    The game leaves so many open questions that I doubt this will be the last Max Payne game. The Max Payne universe has plenty of open stories that could be explored.

    Max after Max Payne 3, doubtful Rockstar would start right where they left off.

    Max with Alex during his years at NYPD would be a very interesting game and would be a great reason to go back to the old New York setting for Max Payne.
    And who is gonna be the model for Max? You know, Sam Lake got rid of his constipation a looong time ago.
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  29. Post #5549
    Dangit Peggy, who threw out this mayon naise jar; I use it to store, extra screws.
    Irishman23's Avatar
    February 2008
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    And who is gonna be the model for Max? You know, Sam Lake got rid of his constipation a looong time ago.
    James McCaffrey. Just making his face a mash-up model of him and a Sam Lake look-alike
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  30. Post #5550
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    kevlar jens's Avatar
    November 2005
    17,962 Posts
    Max with Alex during his years at NYPD would be a very interesting game and would be a great reason to go back to the old New York setting for Max Payne.
    i dont see how that would work at all seeing as his wife and daughter would still be alive the game would have none of the dark revenge themes nor max's overall bitterness.
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  31. Post #5551
    BloodFox1222's Avatar
    April 2011
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    i dont see how that would work at all seeing as his wife and daughter would still be alive the game would have none of the dark revenge themes nor max's overall bitterness.
    How about who cares, Its still max payne even if he isn't mad/drunk/revenginator.
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  32. Post #5552
    Beverage Bandit
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    November 2005
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    no not really.
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  33. Post #5553
    BloodFox1222's Avatar
    April 2011
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    Its still the same game about bulletdiving and shooting guys with berettas even if max isn't a depressed wreck.
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  34. Post #5554
    RikohZX's Avatar
    September 2009
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    i dont see how that would work at all seeing as his wife and daughter would still be alive the game would have none of the dark revenge themes nor max's overall bitterness.
    Mix it up a bit. Max is seriously wounded or something in a new scenario, life's flashing before his eyes as he remembers bits and pieces from before the series' start, during his undercover time in the Punchinello family, maybe recreated scenes from the games even except with alterations to show that Max doesn't remember them perfectly well. All the while he tries to survive in the present and figure out how things are fixable there or so forth.

    yes I realized this is basically hitman contracts in a nutshell after I imagined it
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  35. Post #5555
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    Mix it up a bit. Max is seriously wounded or something in a new scenario, life's flashing before his eyes as he remembers bits and pieces from before the series' start, during his undercover time in the Punchinello family, maybe recreated scenes from the games even except with alterations to show that Max doesn't remember them perfectly well. All the while he tries to survive in the present and figure out how things are fixable there or so forth.

    yes I realized this is basically hitman contracts in a nutshell after I imagined it
    Also sounds like the plotline for the upcoming 007 Legends.

    A good premise though, could be that its based during the time he was boozing it up, and he is just either playing all these events back in his head, or explaining it to a bartender who probably doesn't give two shits.
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  36. Post #5556
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    How about who cares, Its still max payne even if he isn't mad/drunk/revenginator.
    max payne 3 didn't feel much like max payne in tone, that suggestion would be nothing like it in the slightest
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  37. Post #5557
    BloodFox1222's Avatar
    April 2011
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    max payne 3 didn't feel much like max payne in tone, that suggestion would be nothing like it in the slightest
    It didn't feel like max payne because it was in bright brazil and gameplay was nothing like the first two.
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  38. Post #5558
    RikohZX's Avatar
    September 2009
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    It didn't feel like max payne because it was in bright brazil and gameplay was nothing like the first two.
    Yeah no.

    The gameplay was spot on and excellent, and it felt like Max Payne - albeit, with a little more emphasis on bullet time and cover than before due to how accurate these bastards can be. The story is what felt off, and not because of it being 'bright Brazil', but due to thematic and generally more aggressive-metaphor circumstances, due to Max seeming more like Bruce Willis to some people rather than the Payne of old. And even then, for folks like me, I don't see that; it's different, but it feels like a Max Payne game one way or another.
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  39. Post #5559
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    November 2005
    990 Posts
    I don't know... I like those ideas about flashbacks to his NY cop times, but I think for a fourth installment, they'd need to get just a little away from the bullet time shootdodge gameplay. I know it looks awesome, but I do believe it would get old with another game that in terms of gameplay just stylizes violent shootouts through slow-motion jumps and bullet cams.

    I think that something that gives the player a little more freedom is in order, possibly even with adventure elements..find clues, talk to people, although I'm aware that the latter in particular would completely change the way we perceive Max Payne. But the way we perceive him now is, I believe, a bit one-dimensional. We're only ever in control of him when he's shooting people. In order to bring some more immersion, or identification with the character, or whatever you want to call it, I think it's necessary to let us have him do more than punch holes out of bad guys.
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  40. Post #5560
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    August 2005
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    It didn't feel like max payne because it was in bright brazil and gameplay was nothing like the first two.
    how can you say the gameplay was nothing like the first two, you don't even know what you are talking about and you make no sense

    the setting fits perfectly because the theme is redemption and it is a whole hell of a lot better and makes more sense than staying in new york!

    rockstar max payne 3 vs whatever the original developers made, i'd say rockstar would get it better, drop your nostalgia
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