[Mr. Scorpio]

Coolboy posted:

That is like, your opinion.

But a good way motivating the people who try.

This isn't some fight you can win, seriously.

You're gonna fail. Every single person in the history of the world who's ever tried to do anything like this has failed. You're fighting against the most bred in, deeply rooted instinct in the human brain, you're gonna lose. Sorry.


You might as well be trying to wait out boredom. I have no idea why any of you are bothering.

[Pace.]

wow mr scorpio you just went full retard man.

its only hard for the first week or so, then it gets exponentially easier. its not like youre in full horny mode 24/7, that would make it impossible. besides, when your getting action from real women instead of a computer screen, you got nothing to worry about.

i bet you havent even tried, so youre just making up bullshit to try and make yourself feel better.

u mad?

[eternalflamez]

I'll also be in. I've not fapped in 4 days already, so.

[notgoodatpc]

I'm still confused what's wrong with porn. I've watched the videos and read on the site but still, I'm confused

[genkaz92]

Mr. Scorpio posted:

I'm not going to comment on what this will or will not do, but I will say that all of you will fail.

I would say that attempting this forever is highly prone to fail, but simply making your sessions less frequent is perfectly doable.

[Marik Bentusi]

notgoodatpc posted:

I'm still confused what's wrong with porn. I've watched the videos and read on the site but still, I'm confused

Porn is good stuff. If you see good stuff constantly, you're slowly losing your excitement for it and you need even better stuff until this cycle grows out of control and you end up with erectile dysfunction.

That's what he seems to be saying anyway.

[FlyingDog2]

I'll admit that I haven't read through the sources linked in the OP as I don't really have the time for it right now, and thus I am speaking from ignorance here, but is it not possible that it's a case of depressed and socially anxious people reaching out to pornography for the power fantasy it imbues masturbation with? I've been suffering from depression since 4th grade, brought on by a teacher that treated me like dirt. Later in life, around the 10th grade, I lost my only friend as a consequence of him stealing from my parents. Until then I rarely looked at porn, but as my 11th year of school dragged on and my depression was kicked into overdrive due to a lack of social interaction I increasingly began to rely on masturbation for that quick dose of dopamine, serotonin and endorphines. I'm not at all dismissing the science behind desensitization, but I don't think such complex issues as depression and social anxiety can be boiled down to the simple act of using pornography as a masturbation aid. Having said that, I will give this a go. If it helps with my depression, then that's great, but I'll also keep an eye on other factors in my life to make sure I don't falsely attribute any improvements to this concept.

[overpain]

I feel like shit now.
Probably because i was used to fap when i would go home

[Spycrabz]

Mr. Scorpio posted:

You're fighting against the most bred in, deeply rooted instinct in the human brain, you're gonna lose. Sorry.

i wasnt aware that Homo Erectus watched porn.

[ForgottenKane]

I can agree to no masturbation, but no porn? That makes about as much sense as the whole 'video-games are bad for you' argument. IE: None.

Edited:

Mr. Scorpio posted:

This isn't some fight you can win, seriously.

You're gonna fail. Every single person in the history of the world who's ever tried to do anything like this has failed. You're fighting against the most bred in, deeply rooted instinct in the human brain, you're gonna lose. Sorry.


You might as well be trying to wait out boredom. I have no idea why any of you are bothering.

There are many people who go into their 80's and have jacked-off before or virgins. You're silly.

[Zombie Dude]

I'm in.

[Gordon Frohm]

I fap to stuff that technically isn't porn all the time.
So I guess I could quit fapping to actual porn.
Wouldn't change my fapping habits at all though, so I don't see what it would accomplish.

Edited:

or is anything you can possibly fap to considered porn in this case? O.o

[Skunky]

No porn? Forever? Unacceptable.

[eternalflamez]

Gordon Frohm posted:

I fap to stuff that technically isn't porn all the time.
So I guess I could quit fapping to actual porn.
Wouldn't change my fapping habits at all though, so I don't see what it would accomplish.

Edited:

or is anything you can possibly fap to considered porn in this case? O.o

Depends, what weird things do you fap to? Or do you not want to talk about it?

[mobrockers2]

Is watching Nikita considered porn?

[Gordon Frohm]

eternalflamez posted:

Depends, what weird things do you fap to? Or do you not want to talk about it?

I don't consider them weird, but for example if there's this hottie you know in RL that you have sex fantasies about, you could find a sexy facebook pic of her (possibly showing lots of skin, like a bikini pic) and fap to it while fantasizing about fucking her brains out.
Or there's this hot actress in this movie, and she makes a nude/sex scene in this regular non-pornographic movie. (or you just find her hot and fap to any and all pictures and film-scenes of her)
Or maybe you discover a hot (underwear?) model while you're reading a magazine in the bathroom.
I could go on, but you get the picture.

[eternalflamez]

Gordon Frohm posted:

I don't consider them weird, but for example if there's this hottie you know in RL that you have sex fantasies about, you could find a sexy facebook pic of her (possibly showing lots of skin, like a bikini pic) and fap to it while fantasizing about fucking her brains out.
Or there's this hot actress in this movie, and she makes a nude/sex scene in this regular non-pornographic movie. (or you just find her hot and fap to any and all pictures and film-scenes of her)
Or maybe you discover a hot (underwear?) model while you're reading a magazine in the bathroom.
I could go on, but you get the picture.

In that case:

OP posted:

- Using clothed or non-nude girls as fuel (ie girls on facebook, youtube) is like an alcoholic switching to a light beer. Don't do it - it's still not OK.

In the OP.

[Disseminate]

latin_geek posted:

Sign me up, i've been wanting to know how a life without porn feels like.

Based on what i've read, porn of just one person is allowed, isn't it?

Yep. Swapping porn daily might also work (see: all the adults that used playboy), but I'd assume it'd negatively affect recovery time.

genkaz92 posted:

Ultimately no speculation in the world compares so the actual act of doing or testing something.

I would say that it is a good idea to test the idea regardless of you agreeing or disagreeing with it.

You do not have to fully quit masturbating or fully quit watching porn, but testing this for a week would ultimately not hurt anything.

I personally have been testing this for a few days, and I have noticed changes which could be probably best explained by a raise in my testosterone levels.

It would be comparably logical to assume that masturbating everyday may ultimately be keeping your testosterone levels too low, which would certainly make it a good idea to decrease the frequency (such as doing it once per week).

I did not make it through a full week yet, but I will make sure to post the results when I do. (or when I don't)

Based on what I've read, most people who go full sexual stop will have their libido totally gone after five days, and back in another five.

Drsalvador posted:

this is a very stupid idea, especially if you cease all sexual activity and stimulation during this time period. i highly reccomend against this is if you are not above the age of 18 as it could cause some sort of mental issue later in life, intentionally stifling yourself like this.

Good one

Fak99 posted:

Recently (maybe a month) I've only been masturbating once every 3 days to a week, and I do believe it's helping me a lot. I still look at porn, but I never "finish". I don't think I can actually stop looking at porn forever, but I am in the progress of looking at it a lot less now. I also have a job now, and I go to school, which keeps me very busy.

I want to attempt this, but I don't know if I could. I could not look at porn, but there's still plenty of things that would tempt me (TV, videos games, seeing really hot irl girls, etc). Plus, deleting the "folder"! I know its easy to do, but I spent way to much time on it to just throw it away.

Progress is progress! Either way, if you're still attached to your porn folder, you're not dedicated to rebooting.

Drsalvador posted:

ok i'm calling bullshit on this, that is downright illogical, if anything porn will reduce depression, sexual stimulation has been scientifically proven to release endorphins and feelgood chemicals.

Endorphins (opioids) are temporary.

Ardosos posted:

What if someone merely looked at porn, but didn't "fap" to it? Would that still have negative effects, and would there be anything to gain by quitting in such a scenario?

I couldn't say. You're welcome to test it.

Apache249 posted:

No looking at girls on facebook? What in the hell?

No masturbating to images of random girls you don't know on facebook.

Derp Y. Mail posted:

Bullshit.
Since when does masturbation have anything to do with social skills? And since when does masturbation have any influx on your confidence?
I generally feel more relaxed and reinvigorated after a good fap, once I've recovered from the endorphins I feel pretty damn good.

Edited:



So basically we're not allowed to get exposed to imagery that has even the slightest chance of being arousing?
Better bunker up then, because no matter where I go I see advertisements for lingerie/underwear and swimming outfits...

Since low dopamine is linked to anxiety and depression (see: sources)

Exposure to imagery of porn while masturbating, not of slightly arousing anything.

Hiighwire posted:

Is it fine if you look at Facebook or w.e other site's pictures, but you're still fantasizing in your head (real girls, no porn stars or porn of course)?

Do you know the girls? If so, yeah, it's fine. If you're doing random searches, no, that's not ok.

gooldude posted:

I don't masturbate nor look at porn. I do every now and then look at pictures of models like Ciny May and shit. Do I need to stop?

I'm in tho if he answer to my question is yes.

You can, yeah, as long as you don't swap out the models on a minutely basis.

Upgrade123 posted:

I'm up for it, but does it count if it's with my girlfriend? We've talked about watching porn together.

This is a tricky one, because if you're watching porn together, you're focused on the porn and not each other, I'd assume. I'll add you to the list, but be careful.

Johnny Guitar posted:

caved in, feels shitty

Try again in a week.

thisBrad posted:

They say porn can cause desensitization, but I sure as hell still get horny at the littlest things. can anyone explain how that works? lol

Anyway about to go to bed, gunna take a while to fall asleep since I used fapping to help me get tired faster. Day one completed without fapping. The real challenge will be in two days when I come home drunk.

Yeah, for the first fiveish days (based on the testimonials) your libido skyrockets.

Mr. Scorpio posted:

I'm not going to comment on what this will or will not do, but I will say that all of you will fail.

OK.

Mr. Scorpio posted:

This isn't some fight you can win, seriously.

You're gonna fail. Every single person in the history of the world who's ever tried to do anything like this has failed. You're fighting against the most bred in, deeply rooted instinct in the human brain, you're gonna lose. Sorry.


You might as well be trying to wait out boredom. I have no idea why any of you are bothering.

Pornography isn't the most deeply rooted instinct in the human brain.

FlyingDog2 posted:

I'll admit that I haven't read through the sources linked in the OP as I don't really have the time for it right now, and thus I am speaking from ignorance here, but is it not possible that it's a case of depressed and socially anxious people reaching out to pornography for the power fantasy it imbues masturbation with? I've been suffering from depression since 4th grade, brought on by a teacher that treated me like dirt. Later in life, around the 10th grade, I lost my only friend as a consequence of him stealing from my parents. Until then I rarely looked at porn, but as my 11th year of school dragged on and my depression was kicked into overdrive due to a lack of social interaction I increasingly began to rely on masturbation for that quick dose of dopamine, serotonin and endorphines. I'm not at all dismissing the science behind desensitization, but I don't think such complex issues as depression and social anxiety can be boiled down to the simple act of using pornography as a masturbation aid. Having said that, I will give this a go. If it helps with my depression, then that's great, but I'll also keep an eye on other factors in my life to make sure I don't falsely attribute any improvements to this concept.

I'm not saying this is a be-all end-all cure for depression and anxiety, I'm saying it could help with some cases.

overpain posted:

I feel like shit now.
Probably because i was used to fap when i would go home

You'll get through it - go do some pushups or something.

eternalflamez posted:

In that case:



In the OP.

Note when I said that, I meant actually going out of your way to find randoms on facebook, because that still has the same "get while the gettin's good" mentality.

[Coolboy]

When I don´t fap there is no actual reason watching porn, atleast in my eyes.

If I look back I got used to masturbating.
I have so much "experience", I can finish in 10 seconds.

That´s not worth it. I just want the dopamine just like a drug addict.
But this feeling after masturbation is always disappointment.

That´s the reason I atleast try.

[Aerkhan]

Count me IN!

[Evilan]

Oh man, I should not have looked at the graphs that OP put in the first thread post. I did not want to see my mood bottom out after 10 days, that could be troublesome.

[Disseminate]

Evilan posted:

Oh man, I should not have looked at the graphs that OP put in the first thread post. I did not want to see my mood bottom out after 10 days, that could be troublesome.

http://yourbrainonporn.com/synopsis-...ith-mood-chart

Here's the guy who did it. He describes it as more of an empty/numb feeling, ie. lack of libido and a bit of aggression.

[latin_geek]

Kabstrac should really stop being mr. FAQ before I buy him a giant red "MASTURBATION DENIAL SPECIALIST" title

Drsalvador posted:

ok i'm calling bullshit on this, that is downright illogical, if anything porn will reduce depression, sexual stimulation has been scientifically proven to release endorphins and feelgood chemicals.

the entire idea is that constantly getting the rush of endorphines and such will make the effects of that release affect you less, so you won't get happy from simple or smaller things.

[Teh Soviet]

SIGN ME UP

Edited:

I go rage mode after only a few days with no fapping, start snapping at people for minor things, how the hell am I supposed to hold off for months? :D BUT I'M DOING IT ANYWAY. *Salutes*

Bon chance, comrades.

[harryh11]

COMMENCING OPERATION FOREVER ALONE

[Disseminate]

Teh Soviet posted:

I go rage mode after only a few days with no fapping, start snapping at people for minor things, how the hell am I supposed to hold off for months? :D BUT I'M DOING IT ANYWAY. *Salutes*

Bon chance, comrades.

According to testimonies, you get really aggressive after 5ish days and get less and less mad after 10, exponentially feeling better, but with the occasional spike of anger/sadness/depression.

[Spearman]

This reminds me of Teens Against Pornography, before they shut down their site

[Upgrade123]

Cheat code: Have a girlfriend.

Anyways, I'm stopping porn for her and me. I want to be more sexually sensitive, and looking at porn makes me feel like I'm being dishonest towards her.

[Bonzai11]

Sign me up!
I've been slowly weaning myself off and I'm almost to once a week viewing porn.

Hopefully I can keep it up longer than a month.

[PederPauline]

So I can basically never browse any board on 4chan or 420chan ever again?

[Kabstrac]

latin_geek posted:

Kabstrac should really stop being mr. FAQ before I buy him a giant red "MASTURBATION DENIAL SPECIALIST" title the entire idea is that constantly getting the rush of endorphines and such will make the effects of that release affect you less, so you won't get happy from simple or smaller things.

Dial 1-800-COK-BLOK to talk with a highly trained Masturbation Denial Specialist

[Mr. Sun]

I agree with what the OP says. During times I've tried to quit, I have felt 100% better but one little thing just causes me to collapse...
I'll try it. I've been trying to kick this addiction for a couple years now. I even put up the OpenDNS website filter on my computer but I'm too good at computers for my own good... I'll find ways around it or reverse whatever I did in the instructions.

[Disseminate]

Mr. Sun posted:

I agree with what the OP says. During times I've tried to quit, I have felt 100% better but one little thing just causes me to collapse...
I'll try it. I've been trying to kick this addiction for a couple years now. I even put up the OpenDNS website filter on my computer but I'm too good at computers for my own good... I'll find ways around it or reverse whatever I did in the instructions.

I've actually tried filters before but just found alternative avenues to porn (ie find a different website, google images (seriously), use my phone's wifi etc). Personally, I think it works to some degree, making yourself reconsider exactly what you're about to do, even though you've come that far - but it won't stop you.

[CMB Unit 01]

Add me to the list, if I ever get the urge I'll just think of old nuns exposing themselves to me.

[Mr. Sun]

I agree. I checked out the yourbrainonporn.com website and it gave me a huge variety of filters and software that uses passwords that I could use, throw out the gibberish password, and lock myself out. However, I still need to cover every single device I could use. My android has a software for it too so I'll try that when I get home. I feel so less connected to people and depressed recently because I've relapsed into a long indulgence of this dang thing.
I tried using safesearch and password protecting the switch but for some reason, it didn't work.

And Facepunch and Fast Threads totally don't help...

I never considered masturbating to actually be part of the problem. I don't like it because I fantasize about people I know and since I've started yeeeears ago, I still feel awkward afterwards. I have been able to stop for about a month or two at a time but I always kept masturbating... I guess I'll try to stop that too.

[Evilan]

Mr. Scorpio posted:

This isn't some fight you can win, seriously.

You're gonna fail. Every single person in the history of the world who's ever tried to do anything like this has failed. You're fighting against the most bred in, deeply rooted instinct in the human brain, you're gonna lose. Sorry.


You might as well be trying to wait out boredom. I have no idea why any of you are bothering.

I really pity you. I've overcome a couple things much worse than a simple masturbation addiction in my relatively short life.

[Disseminate]

Mr. Sun posted:

I agree. I checked out the yourbrainonporn.com website and it gave me a huge variety of filters and software that uses passwords that I could use, throw out the gibberish password, and lock myself out. However, I still need to cover every single device I could use. My android has a software for it too so I'll try that when I get home. I feel so less connected to people and depressed recently because I've relapsed into a long indulgence of this dang thing.
I tried using safesearch and password protecting the switch but for some reason, it didn't work.

And Facepunch and Fast Threads totally don't help...

Make a few post-its and stick them on your monitor, in your room etc. reminding you how you felt now. With any luck, you'll see one and think twice about your rationalization.

[notgoodatpc]

Marik Bentusi posted:

Porn is good stuff. If you see good stuff constantly, you're slowly losing your excitement for it and you need even better stuff until this cycle grows out of control and you end up with erectile dysfunction.

That's what he seems to be saying anyway.

I've watched porn a lot in my days and I've never had a problem getting it up when I'm with a woman.

Some of this sounds about right but much sounds like bullshit.

[Mr. Sun]

notgoodatpc posted:

I've watched porn a lot in my days and I've never had a problem getting it up when I'm with a woman.

Some of this sounds about right but much sounds like bullshit.

Well then again you don't have a PhD and have done multiple intensive studies on this (I know there are studies saying the exact opposite) but we are just people, we have to trust what people say and choose which side we would agree with after doing personal careful and unbiased research to both sides of the argument.

[Disseminate]

Mr. Sun posted:

Well then again you don't have a PhD and have done multiple intensive studies on this (I know there are studies saying the exact opposite) but we are just people, we have to trust what people say and choose which side we would agree with after doing personal careful and unbiased research to both sides of the argument.

Not only this, but also what course of action would be the best usage of our time versus mental payoff.