1. Post #3241
    Dennab
    February 2012
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    Whatever happens, EA is going to leave a nice huge void, a void which can be filled with quality games.
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  2. Post #3242
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    February 2007
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    when EA dies it's gonna be like that one ending to Deus Ex

    we're gonna have lots of tiny indie companies split up after the system collapses, and they're gonna work together because it'll be essential to maintaining a semblance of a working system, making tools for eachother and getting different tools in return

    it was all foretold
    Losing a couple of the major corporations would have a similar reaction as the Video Game Crash TBQH. The industry would flounder for a few years, but would eventually rebound and be better for it. If EA goes down, eventually new developers will rise up in it's place, and they'll rise up because they were dedicated to their craft and rebuild consumer confidence.

    That being said, I think it's a lot harder to lose consumer confidence today as much as the companies in 1983 did.
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  3. Post #3243
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    Yes it would hurt, but it needs to happen, as a signal to the industry that you can't just roll the "fuck quality, make money" business attitude and expect everything to be sunshine and rainbows forever.
    Quality products make money and increase a company's value in the long term, think Apple, BMW or Samsung.
    Attempting to pass iffy games as top notch products may give you a quick buck in the short run, but that bubble WILL burst sooner rather than later and you will pay the consequences. As most gaming companies are doing now.
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  4. Post #3244
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    July 2006
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    Losing a couple of the major corporations would have a similar reaction as the Video Game Crash TBQH. The industry would flounder for a few years, but would eventually rebound and be better for it. If EA goes down, eventually new developers will rise up in it's place, and they'll rise up because they were dedicated to their craft and rebuild consumer confidence.

    That being said, I think it's a lot harder to lose consumer confidence today as much as the companies in 1983 did.
    Games have proven a lot in the last thirty years compared to the 80's crash. Back then, nobody was sure if they were profitable.

    Now, the world knows games are profitable, they just aren't quite sure what the best way to tap that market is. The big companies are proving that penny-pinching DLC and assorted bullshit only destroys consumer confidence while smaller developers are proving innovation is a piggybank just waiting to be busted open.
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  5. Post #3245
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    August 2006
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    I'm not exactly sure where all that money spent on these games goes.

    I mean look at Call of Duty, it's been on virtually the same engine for SIX fucking games.

    Where does all that work go into?
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  6. Post #3246
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    July 2006
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    I'm not exactly sure where all that money spent on these games goes.

    I mean look at Call of Duty, it's been on virtually the same engine for SIX fucking games.

    Where does all that work go into?
    Marketing. Celebrity endorsements. Licensing Eminem songs.

    Honestly, if you took a look at the development budgets compared to the marketing budgets of the super-franchises, I'd daresay they're close to equal, if not leaning heavily toward marketing-centric costs.
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  7. Post #3247
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    March 2012
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    I still like Bioware.
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  8. Post #3248
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    July 2006
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    I still like Bioware.
    People still like Michael Bay.

    I'm not saying the complete dismantling of cinema is all his fault, but that man has to be stopped because it's all his fault.
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  9. Post #3249
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    November 2005
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    Honestly, if you took a look at the development budgets compared to the marketing budgets of the super-franchises, I'd daresay they're close to equal, if not leaning heavily toward marketing-centric costs.
    50-50! that's cute. It's about 25% for development, 75% for marketing + distribution.

    http://ve3d.ign.com/articles/news/51...Unlocked-On-PC

    I mean, really, EA's case shouldn't be a surprise: Sugar coating turds won't make them taste any better.
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  10. Post #3250
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    August 2006
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    People still like Michael Bay.

    I'm not saying the complete dismantling of cinema is all his fault, but that man has to be stopped because it's all his fault.
    He is everything that is wrong in movies since the Matrix forged into the visage of a Man.
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  11. Post #3251
    Everything I post is absolute bollocks until proven otherwise.
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    Comparing Michael Bay to Bioware is a way over the top.

    Mass Effect 3 is still a massively hugely enjoyable game, one of the best. The last 10 minutes is rushed as fuck which is why the ending tasted so sour. A bit more explanation, a bit more time and a less heavy handed "THEN THE UNIVERSE EXPLODES" and the game is perfect.
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  12. Post #3252
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    March 2007
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    Turing it around completly, I wish the part of Dark Horse that makes the ME comics drew like This instead
    Damn... that was pretty touching. :(
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  13. Post #3253
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    July 2006
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    Comparing Michael Bay to Bioware is a way over the top.

    Mass Effect 3 is still a massively hugely enjoyable game, one of the best. The last 10 minutes is rushed as fuck which is why the ending tasted so sour. A bit more explanation, a bit more time and a less heavy handed "THEN THE UNIVERSE EXPLODES" and the game is perfect.
    Mass Effect without the good writing is just a lousy Gears of War knockoff with worse controls, copious amounts of animation bugs and derivative gameplay. If I was looking for a shooter/RPG, there have been much better titles I could have invested my time in.

    Honestly, Mass Effect as a whole is not enjoyable in the slightest without its story, and a terrible ending has a way of devaluing Bioware's "fourth pillar" of design.
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  14. Post #3254
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    July 2007
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    Losing a couple of the major corporations would have a similar reaction as the Video Game Crash TBQH. The industry would flounder for a few years, but would eventually rebound and be better for it. If EA goes down, eventually new developers will rise up in it's place, and they'll rise up because they were dedicated to their craft and rebuild consumer confidence.

    That being said, I think it's a lot harder to lose consumer confidence today as much as the companies in 1983 did.
    See, I think that the rise of indie gaming would temper that. Now that we've got thousands of people developing their own full-conversion mods and full games that rival ones made by fully budgeted teams, we could see some great things come out of an industrial shift like that.

    However, if EA goes down, we're fucked with a lot of games. All those multiplayer games would be screwed as their master servers go down.
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  15. Post #3255
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    July 2006
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    However, if EA goes down, we're fucked with a lot of games. All those multiplayer games would be screwed as their master servers go down.
    Haha, they go down after a year and a half anymore anyway.

    Hell, EA has been using the whole server-shutdown thing as a tool to force people to buy the newest iterations of its annual sports titles for years now.
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  16. Post #3256
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    July 2007
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    Haha, they go down after a year and a half anymore anyway.

    Hell, EA has been using the whole server-shutdown thing as a tool to force people to buy the newest iterations of its annual sports titles for years now.
    Eh, fair enough. Fuck it, we've got TF2 and enough other games to fill the void. It'll be sad, but as a community, we can make due.
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  17. Post #3257
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    August 2006
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    Eh, fair enough. Fuck it, we've got TF2 and enough other games to fill the void. It'll be sad, but as a community, we can make due.
    we've got a lot more then just TF2.

    The rise of F2P, of GOOD F2P titles will carry us through on the Multiplayer spectrum, leaving room for developers to work on crafting Singleplayer experiences that are worth your time and not tacked on linear site-seeing tours there to seemingly increase the perceived value of the game's purchase.
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  18. Post #3258
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    you guys are making it seem like the collapse of EA is a given
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  19. Post #3259
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    August 2006
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    you guys are making it seem like the collapse of EA is a given
    do companies who lose half the value of their stock in less than a year usually paint hopeful outlooks?
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  20. Post #3260
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    January 2005
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  21. Post #3261
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    January 2012
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    I have an idea for a dlc they could do mid-game that would be fucking awesome,if you can go to the planet Kal'reegar dies on and save him and his squad and then once you do,he becomes a squadmate.
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  22. Post #3262
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    August 2006
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    I'll take indoctrination theory is real for 200.


    Because that was far more imaginative then anything they came up with.
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  23. Post #3263
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    May 2010
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    The industry doesn't need more overinflated budgets.

    In recent years I've had more fun in games with shoestring budgets than I have the blockbuster multi-million titles.
    It's quite amazing how popular Indie games have gotten compared to what they were years ago. A few guys (or even a single coder) can make great games and they can do well (Of course big companies do better generally, but they invest much more into their games than Indie companies can ever dream of)
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  24. Post #3264
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    September 2006
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    Seeing as they say to load up a save before the Cerberus base I'm guessing the    Prothean    exposition may be considerably expanded on. I honestly wasn't going to bother with the extension but then I though that unlike the main ending I would like to see it before I head anyone else's opinion on it.
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  25. Post #3265
    What's brevity?
    ironman17's Avatar
    June 2006
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    I'll take indoctrination theory is real for 200.
    *buzz* What is missed opportunity?

    How exactly does Jeopardy work, anyway?
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  26. Post #3266
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    February 2010
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    Yeah, IT is great. I can't wait until Shepard finds out the Monolith is fake and kills the members of the c-consciousness.
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  27. Post #3267
     
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    May 2006
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    *buzz* What is missed opportunity?

    How exactly does Jeopardy work, anyway?
    You're given the answer and have to supply the correct question, plus a tonne of metaphors and word play.
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  29. Post #3269
    What's brevity?
    ironman17's Avatar
    June 2006
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    All I want is either proper resolution for squadmate stories or a Harbinger bossfight.

    You're given the answer and have to supply the correct question, plus a tonne of metaphors and word play.
    Ah; I thought it was something like that, but suspected there was more to it. After all, the most I learned of Jeopardy was from Whose Line.

    Is there a Fast Thread that is essentially forum Jeopardy?
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  30. Post #3270
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    Err, if Shephard is indoctrinated, how come the Prothean VI's don't shout out "REAPER INDOCTRINATION DETECTED?" or whatever, like it does with Kai Lang? Why doesn't the indoctrination just tell Shephard to never enter the citadel at all?
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  32. Post #3272
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    Err, if Shephard is indoctrinated, how come the Prothean VI's don't shout out "REAPER INDOCTRINATION DETECTED?" or whatever, like it does with Kai Lang? Why doesn't the indoctrination just tell Shephard to never enter the citadel at all?
    Mass Effect Fields
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  33. Post #3273
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    May 2010
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    Mass Effect Fields
    what
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  34. Post #3274
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    February 2010
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    For those who don't know, "Mass Effect Fields" is just the fanbase's version of "Swamp Gas."; just a quick explanation of everything that doesn't make sense.
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  35. Post #3275
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    June 2006
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    Either it was a writer's oversight, or the VI's systems were still booting up at the time; indoctrinationsensor.exe was probably still in the startup queue when Shepard was talking to the VI.

    Thing is, 50k years is not a viable timespan for any machine to be turned on, or even on Standby; woulda been a bit of a power drain, having a true startup after 50k years would be the better option when dealing with a machine's activity levels. (whentostoptalking.exe has suffered a serious error and needs to close)
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  36. Post #3276
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    Comparing Michael Bay to Bioware is a way over the top.

    Mass Effect 3 is still a massively hugely enjoyable game, one of the best. The last 10 minutes is rushed as fuck which is why the ending tasted so sour. A bit more explanation, a bit more time and a less heavy handed "THEN THE UNIVERSE EXPLODES" and the game is perfect.

    Not really. Walters is about as talented as Micheal Bay. You need to thanking people like Patrick and JDom and Sylv for keep what story did manage to come through intact, cause it sure as hell ain't Walters that set the bar.
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  37. Post #3277
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    June 2007
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    Either it was a writer's oversight, or the VI's systems were still booting up at the time; indoctrinationsensor.exe was probably still in the startup queue when Shepard was talking to the VI.

    Thing is, 50k years is not a viable timespan for any machine to be turned on, or even on Standby; woulda been a bit of a power drain, having a true startup after 50k years would be the better option when dealing with a machine's activity levels. (whentostoptalking.exe has suffered a serious error and needs to close)
    The Indoctrination Theory Documentary covers this.

    VIs aren't perfect. It's Indoctrination Detection system most likely can only detect the end stages of indoctrination, which Shepard wouldn't be near for about another month.

    And on the subject of Indoctrination:

    1. Why can't Shepard confront Vega about him possibly being in the first stages of indoctrination? I'd imagine Shepard would be a bit suspicious of someone who claims to be hearing an ominous hum. I'd think Shepard would want to prevent something like that as much as possible. Unless of course indoctrination is preventing him from confronting Vega.

    2. Why does noone ever question that Shepard may be getting indoctrinated? After all, Shepard is constantly around Reaper tech that could indoctrinate him, including being in a reaper and walking within barely 100 meters of active reapers (Human Reaper, A shitload of Reapers on Earth, Tuchanka's Destroyer, Rannoch's Destroyer, Thessia Reapers, Human Reaper ruins). It would have to cross someone's mind eventually that Shepard and crew could be being indoctrinated, especially Tali and Garrus since they've been with Shepard the most.

    2B. I don't know if this is completely credible, but I remember a leak from back in mid-late 2011 that claimed that Shepard's cybernetics were Reaper tech from Sovereign's salvage. Take that one how you want, but that guarantees that Shepard would be a walking indoctrination conduit, and that he'd basically be going the same route as Jack Harper/TIM is going.
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  38. Post #3278
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    March 2012
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    Imma gonna check out this Kingdoms of Amalur Reckoning armor in ME3.
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  39. Post #3279
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    Not really. Walters is about as talented as Micheal Bay. You need to thanking people like Patrick and JDom and Sylv for keep what story did manage to come through intact, cause it sure as hell ain't Walters that set the bar.
    TBH I'd rather have Hepler writing instead of Walters. She's not as bad as people try to make her out to be. People hated her for saying that she wasn't a gamer and blamed her for all of DA2 (Yeah, like a writer made the gameplay bad). Just keep her out of the Romance plot writing (Hepler Romance Plots HNNNNNNnnnnnng) and you're good.
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  40. Post #3280
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    Tight in what, Ash?
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