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    Russell Brand, a former heroin addict, told MPs it would be better if drug addiction were more a health issue than a crime matter Photograph: Ian West/PA
    Comedian, actor and former heroin addict, Russell Brand, has suggested politicians should regard drug addiction as a disease to be treated as a health issue rather than a criminal or judicial matter.

    The flamboyant film star, who arrived to give evidence to the Commons home affairs select committee, wearing a black hat, gold chains and crosses, and a torn black vest top, confirmed he had been arrested around a dozen times for drug possession.

    He agreed it would be "a brilliant idea" if the policing costs of "nicking people for possession" were instead used to fund treatment and drug education programmes.

    But Brand, who has given frank accounts of his battles to overcome heroin addiction, was careful to make clear he didn't want to start "banging the drum" for legalisation. He said he didn't feel qualified to talk about legalisation although he did think it was possible for some people to take drugs safely and he didn't want to be identified with a "just say no campaign".

    He said he didn't think that drug addicts cared about the legal status of the drugs they were taking, or where they came from or the consequences for those involved in their production.

    "I don't think they are going to be affected because they're normally on drugs," he said.

    But he was keen to stress to the MPs, who are conducting an inquiry into drug policy, that he believed that an abstinence-based recovery approach was needed. "We don't want to discard people by writing them off on methadone and leaving them on the sidelines," he said, although he acknowledged the heroin substitute could play a role as part of a recovery programme.

    He said rather than any carrot or stick approach he wanted to see "love and compassion" in society's response. He said his own drug addiction had been caused by emotional and psychological difficulties and a spiritual malady. It was more important to tackle those than treating addicts as criminals, he added.

    The rapidly spoken comedian tried to engage the MPs on the committee, chaired by the former Labour minister Keith Vaz, with some banter. When Vaz asked if he had been arrested "roughly" 12 times, he replied: "Yes, it was rough."

    When the veteran Labour MP, David Winnick, gently suggested he shouldn't treat the committee as a variety show, he couldn't resist pointing out that it seemed more like Dad's Army to him.

    When the MPs suggested that as a celebrity he could be a role model for young people, Brand responded: "Who cares about bloody celebrities? Their role is insignificant." He said he wasn't trying to get a message across to young people but to people with addiction and wanted to ensure that the response to them was based on "truth and authenticity".

    His backing for a more abstinence-based approach was supported by Chip Somers, the chief executive of the detox centre, Focus 12, where Brand went for help: "Just to park people on methadone for four to seven years is criminal."
    http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2...-addiction-mps

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    He agreed it would be "a brilliant idea" if the policing costs of "nicking people for possession" were instead used to fund treatment and drug education programmes.

    But Brand, who has given frank accounts of his battles to overcome heroin addiction, was careful to make clear he didn't want to start "banging the drum" for legalisation. He said he didn't feel qualified to talk about legalisation although he did think it was possible for some people to take drugs safely and he didn't want to be identified with a "just say no campaign".
    I like the sound of this.
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    Sorry what? I can't hear you over the sound of all the money that federal and private agencies are making by keeping drug use subject for severe punishment.
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    Goddam brand is smart.

    He's a fucking amazing speaker.
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    I didn't think he was this intelligent, awesome speaking.
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    Always nice to see a celebrity standing up for a cause.
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    Finally someone says this.
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    ...You mean it wasn't before hand?

    ...That's... Fucked.
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    I didn't think he was this intelligent, awesome speaking.
    He is surprisingly intelligent, I was surprised as well. From what I have heard his book is quite well written and interesting.

    Also, http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-17828670
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    very true, plus people need to realize that drugs aren't the issue, it's the people and their mentalities.

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    Sorry what? I can't hear you over the sound of all the money that federal and private agencies are making by keeping drug use subject for severe punishment.
    The UK doesn't have a federal government.
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    man states the obvious

    world applauses: "genius!"
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    Yeah but my freedoms

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    Yeah but my freedoms
    You're kidding, right?

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    The Union Jack would look a shit ton better with a Hammer and Sickle in the middle of it
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    man states the obvious

    world applauses: "genius!"
    such is life when politics are involved.
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    man states the obvious

    world applauses: "genius!"
    Nobody ever states the obvious though, especially not to officials. And if they do, they are quckly blasted down. It's good that he's done what he's done, as now it has gained public view and it shows that not all drug addicts are the horrible uneducated people you commonly see them shown as.
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    looking rad, feeling sad
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    I didn't think he was this intelligent, awesome speaking.
    Have you read the article he wrote when Amy Winehouse died? That was brilliant.

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    I think what makes him maybe not a genius but something notable is being able to speak about it without ranting or otherwise coming across as someone easily ignored.

    Too many people who have worthwhile perspectives to give on issues often present themselves in such a way that the very people they need to communicate with can't take them seriously.

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    man states the obvious

    world applauses: "genius!"
    Because it is not being done already! If it was obvious, then it would have been put into law by now
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    Have you read the article he wrote when Amy Winehouse died? That was brilliant.
    No, but I'll give it a read now, thanks.

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    I can't believe people don't consider this common sense by now.
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    Because it is not being done already! If it was obvious, then it would have been put into law by now
    Nope, welcome to politics
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    hang you're self
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    man states the obvious

    world applauses: "genius!"
    when you're constantly subjected to a world of liars, hypocrites, and idiots, seeing someone infiltrate it with a clear mind and good reasoning should be a cause for praise.
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    Do you think he's pushing the issue so hard because of what happened to Winehouse?

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    I saw him one of his shows on his tour and didn't expect much more than tits and dick jokes. But he is one of the smartest men I will ever hear speak. If he has another tour soon I suggest you all go. Also, there are tit and dick jokes.
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    Now if only he wasn't dressed like twat...

    But in seriousness, it is very difficult to judge drug usage, it's so subjective

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    very true, plus people need to realize that drugs aren't the issue, it's the people and their mentalities.
    not the case with heroin/meth/cocaine but stuff like ecstacy/weed etc yeah it is.

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    I always thought there was more to Brand than dick jokes, looks like I was right.

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    The UK doesn't have a federal government.
    yah but the united states do and don't you think the UK will attempt to change anything drugpolicy related while crawling american policy makers so deep in the arse they could offer tourists a very new exploration expedition called the London Dungeon 2
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    yah but the united states do and don't you think the UK will attempt to change anything drugpolicy related while crawling american policy makers so deep in the arse they could offer tourists a very new exploration expedition called the London Dungeon 2
    What the fuck am I reading?
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    What the fuck am I reading?
    "rabble rabble london dungeon 2: anus expedition"

    I assume that the US is influential. I know we are for Canada when we threaten them on drug policy and they listen.

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    yah but the united states do and don't you think the UK will attempt to change anything drugpolicy related while crawling american policy makers so deep in the arse they could offer tourists a very new exploration expedition called the London Dungeon 2
    I'm not entirely sure what you're saying here, but we don't really give much of a fuck about what foreign right wingers think about rehabilitating criminals.
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    A celebrity saying something intelligent? get outta here.

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    But then who will be forced to make all our ammunition for 10 cents an hour in a prison!

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    I'm not entirely sure what you're saying here, but we don't really give much of a fuck about what foreign right wingers think about rehabilitating criminals.
    uhuh thats why your government not only didn't listen to the reclassification urges by a scientific institute regarding marijunana no they also fired the chairman and ramped up classification so dont think the UK has that much to say about its own policies when cameron and clegg are following uncle sam like theyre his pet yorkshire terrier
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    uhuh thats why your government not only didn't listen to the reclassification urges by a scientific institute regarding marijunana no they also fired the chairman and ramped up classification so dont think the UK has that much to say about its own policies when cameron and clegg are following uncle sam like theyre his pet yorkshire terrier
    They decriminalized growing up to 7 plants.


    You're wrong!
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    White Fusion will love him forever and ever~
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    Although I will agree that Cameron and Nick Clegg are terrible.

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    omfg i take it back

    toke up!

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    Even the liberal democrats have grown to hate the liberal democrats

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    They decriminalized growing up to 7 plants.


    You're wrong!
    no they didn't
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