[Santz]

RagerTrader posted:

Pudge's hook is single target, though. it serves little purpose in team-fights other then tkaing out a support.

Torrent is an AoE skill that can be easily stacked with other skills, like DS's Vacuum or Enigma's Black Hole.

Why stack a torrent with those when you can do a Jakiros Macrophyre, which does 6 times more damage, and Jakiro also pushes towers with his liquid fire passive and has a really long rage disable + aoe fire/ice wave to push creeps or harrass.

Pros rarely go for flashy heroe line-ups because they are more focused on winning money, so they pick only the best. Kunkka is not a bad hero, but hes not the best.

[The Mighty Boat]

kunkka isnt even picked in pub games for his ridiculously unreliable disables, hes picked so that you can do as much damage in one attack as possible and then maybe luck out and hit a torrent

[Rats808]

Badunkadunk posted:

I just wish Kunnka's ult was aimed differently, like maybe click where you want the ship to land then drag which direction you want it to go then let go and it casts. Right now unless I cast it far away and run up it will just fly in some random spot and I'll hit someone by pure luck.

Mouse over the icon for it so it shows the range indicator. That's how far it will go, always, no matter where you click, or which way you're facing. Your click only determines which direction it will go.

[Sherd Red]

Jetamo posted:

So I managed to upload the first item to the DOTA2 Workshop.




legit, no hate.

I know this is really fucking late but I thought I was the only person that remembered that.

[titopei]

Haxxer posted:

Razor is so fun to outlane people with. Get a solo lane and you'll have an easy time against just about any setup. Once you get 3 levels of your plasma ring thingy, you can harass like a motherfucker.

I hate laning against him mid, I'm always down to half hp before I even start ganking.

[DarkZero135]

valve pls
update

[Atlascore]

Yo Valve! Where's the update?

[Maruhai]

They already released updates way later than that, don't complain yet.

[Atlascore]

May 2nd, 2012.

The day Dota 2 stood still.

[titopei]

Santz posted:

Why stack a torrent with those when you can do a Jakiros Macrophyre, which does 6 times more damage, and Jakiro also pushes towers with his liquid fire passive and has a really long rage disable + aoe fire/ice wave to push creeps or harrass.

Pros rarely go for flashy heroe line-ups because they are more focused on winning money, so they pick only the best. Kunkka is not a bad hero, but hes not the best.

Thats the story for all heroes. I don't think there is a hero that isn't useful to the team except the occasional bloodseeker.

[Maruhai]

titopei posted:

Thats the story for all heroes. I don't think there is a hero that isn't useful to the team except the occasional bloodseeker.

To be honest Bloodseeker can be useful to the team, in a teamfight, Rupture is almost a guaranteed kill as the target is either forced to walk away or either stays here and gets raped (if the rest of the team isn't dumb as fuck), and his silence works quite well on some heroes.

[OutOfExile2]

Phantom Lancer probably means I'll start playing Enchantress more now

[RagerTrader]

Santz posted:

Why stack a torrent with those when you can do a Jakiros Macrophyre, which does 6 times more damage, and Jakiro also pushes towers with his liquid fire passive and has a really long rage disable + aoe fire/ice wave to push creeps or harrass.

Because Macropyre has 5 times the cool-down and isn't available until level 6?

And the fact Macropyre doesn't have a 2 second disable.

Edited:

And of course the fact the Jakiro doesn't do enough damage to be a carry. His role is crown control, but even his high spell DPS doesn't mean much if the enemy team has a pipe.

Ol' CoCo has tons of utility without losing any of his damage potential.

Edited:

Badunkadunk posted:

I just wish Kunnka's ult was aimed differently, like maybe click where you want the ship to land then drag which direction you want it to go then let go and it casts. Right now unless I cast it far away and run up it will just fly in some random spot and I'll hit someone by pure luck.

Kunkka's ult isn't as tricky as it seems.

I will always land exactly 500 feet in the direction you cast it, going through Kunkka.

[Color]

Went 9-0 with Riki ~ So much win

I'm new :3

[Maruhai]

It's rumoured that Cyborgmatt works at Valve now apparently.
And he has access to Portal 2 Beta.

[OutOfExile2]

Color posted:

Went 9-0 with Riki ~ So much win

I'm new :3

Don't want to come off as mean but don't let it get to your head, Riki is known for pubstomping

[SnowCanary]

Brewmaster is amazing, even with a terrible start I was able to completely bounce back and wreck stuff.

OutOfExile2 posted:

Don't want to come off as mean but don't let it get to your head, Riki is known for pubstomping

He's been picked in competitive matches more often recently.

[Color]

OutOfExile2 posted:

Don't want to come off as mean but don't let it get to your head, Riki is known for pubstomping

Yeah Riki's banned in most drafts, but he's one of the heroes I love playing.

[Maruhai]

So yeah Cyborgmatt has the Portal 2 Beta access.

[titopei]

RagerTrader posted:

Because Macropyre has 5 times the cool-down and isn't available until level 6?

And the fact Macropyre doesn't have a 2 second disable.

Edited:

And of course the fact the Jakiro doesn't do enough damage to be a carry. His role is crown control, but even his high spell DPS doesn't mean much if the enemy team has a pipe.

Ol' CoCo has tons of utility without losing any of his damage potential.

Edited:



Kunkka's ult isn't as tricky as it seems.

I will always land exactly 500 feet in the direction you cast it, going through Kunkka.

I've never had the trouble landing kunkka's ult but I've only played him a few times. Maybe it's just that I haven't had a game where I missed his ult in a big situation.

[Badunkadunk]

Rats808 posted:

Mouse over the icon for it so it shows the range indicator. That's how far it will go, always, no matter where you click, or which way you're facing. Your click only determines which direction it will go.

If I cast it out of range and my guy runs up to cast it the ship always lands where I clicked. If I cast when I'm in range it will come from behind me and go forward a good distance.

[titopei]

Don't dota updates come out on thursday? Or are you guys just talking about the test update.

[Reimu]

Talking about test update.

Edited:

Maruhai posted:

So yeah Cyborgmatt has the Portal 2 Beta access.

It wouldn't surprise me if Cyborgmatt is working for Valve now, but there are folks out there who have Portal 2 beta access because of being integral to the community.

Like some STS mods have beta access, even though they aren't official members of Valve.

[Atlascore]

Spoiler alert: Wednesday's update is canceled.

[tyler3497]

Atlascore posted:

Spoiler alert: Wednesday's update is canceled.

Spoiler tag that shit man

[EliteGuy]

It seems like every game now I'm getting an unknown item at the end, up to five now

[Jetamo]

Atlascore posted:

Spoiler alert: Wednesday's update is canceled.

MASSIVE SPOILERS FOR DOTA 2    Kunkka's dead, killed by Tidehunter in the Sea with a Seamonster.   

[Zukriuchen]

Jetamo posted:

MASSIVE SPOILERS FOR DOTA 2    Kunkka's dead, killed by Tidehunter in the Sea with a Seamonster.   

actually no

[Maruhai]

Cyborgmatt confirmed that there's an update today.
Just wait.

[Santz]

RagerTrader posted:

Because Macropyre has 5 times the cool-down and isn't available until level 6?

And the fact Macropyre doesn't have a 2 second disable.

Edited:

And of course the fact the Jakiro doesn't do enough damage to be a carry. His role is crown control, but even his high spell DPS doesn't mean much if the enemy team has a pipe.

Ol' CoCo has tons of utility without losing any of his damage potential.

Macrophyre doesnt have a 2 second disable but Icepath has, and its not nearly as hard to land as Torrent does, and it covers a bigger area. Also, EVEN with Pipe, Macrophyre does 4 times more damage than a torrent.

And Kunkka is VERY farm dependant, and pros will prefer to put other heroes to farm than kunkka, because they have a bigger potencial. He is a jack-of-all-trades-master-of-none.

[titopei]

Atlascore posted:

Spoiler alert: Wednesday's update is canceled.

Wow dota = ruined.

[OutOfExile2]

My last team was like a Lamborghini Gallardo
Seemed great at first and we were cruising along, completely destroying the other team and out of nowhere they just erupt in flames of idiocy and we got completely steamrolled

[Dogchow33]

If the update is taking this long, I am sure we are getting 2 heroes.

[Hobbax]

Atlascore posted:

Spoiler alert: Wednesday's update is canceled.

OMGZ EVERYTHING IS BROKENNNNNNNN

[Jetamo]

Talking with folks in the TF2 Emporium, I had a pretty cool idea.


Announcer: Cave Johnson.

[Haxxer]

Dogchow33 posted:

If the update is talomg this long, I am sure we are getting 2 heroes.

[Jetamo]

expanding on that:


Announcer: Space Core. Now I know people are tired of the Space meme, but I'd only want it for the obvious roshan thing.

"Dad, I defeated Roshan."

"I'm proud of you son."

"Dad, are you Roshan?"

"Yes, now we are a family again."

"RIP."

[Maruhai]

== Cyborgmatt changed the topic of #Cyborgmatt to: There will be a patch tonight, it has been delayed, that's all.

[Hobbax]

Maruhai posted:

== Cyborgmatt changed the topic of #Cyborgmatt to: There will be a patch tonight, it has been delayed, that's all.

Looking for info :)
Edit

Cyborgmatt is streaming while patching is coming.
http://www.own3d.tv/live/20301/Cyborgmatt.com
Edit Edit
Leaked info from patch!

[titopei]

Jetamo posted:

Talking with folks in the TF2 Emporium, I had a pretty cool idea.


Announcer: Cave Johnson.

I'd have a reason to play dota other than being addicted to it.