1. Post #3401
    doom1337's Avatar
    July 2008
    715 Posts
    You should never start with boots.

    Ever.

    You should be buying either wards or a wand as a support.
    Boots + smoke works I'm pretty sure when the courier is already bought for you. Although that would be quite situation
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  2. Post #3402
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    pvt.meh's Avatar
    December 2005
    3,573 Posts
    If you random, is bottle, tango, 3 ironwood a bad start if you are gonna be mid? What should you normally get if you random (int hero lets say).
    I wouldn't recommend picking up bottle AND tangos, seems a bit excessive since you'll want to capitalise on the early access to runes (most mids don't bother getting runes until they have a bottle), so maybe pick up another branch or something instead or just keep the gold to buy faster boots.
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  3. Post #3403
    Repulsion's Avatar
    May 2010
    1,964 Posts
    Witch Doctor's fun to play, it's too bad his ult sucks and that the range on his E is shorter than his Q, which is frustrating as shit.
    His ult doesn't necessarily suck, it's just super situational, as far as I've seen. I've seen a WD completely turn around a teamfight with a well-placed Death Ward that raped the entire enemy team.

    And then there is a good WD who knows how to place his Death Ward's with an Aganhims... that is scary as hell.
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  4. Post #3404
    Flubascrub
    Flubadoo's Avatar
    August 2009
    10,532 Posts
    WD + Chrono/Black hole

    that damage
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  5. Post #3405
    RagerTrader's Avatar
    September 2011
    1,708 Posts
    WD + Chrono/Black hole

    that damage
    + Death Prophet
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  6. Post #3406
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    WTF Nuke's Avatar
    March 2009
    4,465 Posts
    I wouldn't recommend picking up bottle AND tangos, seems a bit excessive since you'll want to capitalise on the early access to runes (most mids don't bother getting runes until they have a bottle), so maybe pick up another branch or something instead or just keep the gold to buy faster boots.
    Gotcha, I just thought bottle first is always a no no, but if you randomed I guess it's ok?
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  8. Post #3408
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    pvt.meh's Avatar
    December 2005
    3,573 Posts
    Gotcha, I just thought bottle first is always a no no, but if you randomed I guess it's ok?
    It's normally a no-no (like boots) because you can't afford any additional stat items along side it, and since when you random you can normally afford a few branches, it's okay!
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  9. Post #3409
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    December 2008
    11,199 Posts
    Was playing a round where one of my friends had issues early game with Steam and kept getting disconnected so we paused for him to restart as I (Leshrac) was getting chased by like three people and they just kept fucking bitching and bitching and constantly unpausing, and then finally he comes back and we unpause and Zeus fucks up and I kill him.
    Then their Batrider disconnects and they don't have enough pauses to keep him from abandoning so we steamrolled. Karma's a bitch.
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  10. Post #3410
    Proogles's Avatar
    August 2011
    230 Posts
    Anyone here who plays Doombringer often? I'm wondering if it's better to get Lvl Death or Scorched Earth maxed after Devour?
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  11. Post #3411
    Is that a rocket in your pocket?
    Dr.Scrake's Avatar
    March 2010
    8,400 Posts
    lvl death of course
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  12. Post #3412
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    WTF Nuke's Avatar
    March 2009
    4,465 Posts
    Lvl lvl death to their lvl as you lvl.
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  13. Post #3413
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    DarkendSky's Avatar
    July 2009
    3,052 Posts
    You should never start with boots.

    Ever.

    You should be buying either wards or a wand as a support.
    I was a support that doubled as a ganker, so boots was a better move.
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  14. Post #3414
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    November 2011
    3,011 Posts


    Anyone else getting this? Sorry if I'm late.
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  15. Post #3415
    Gilgadood's Avatar
    September 2010
    501 Posts
    Anyone here who plays Doombringer often? I'm wondering if it's better to get Lvl Death or Scorched Earth maxed after Devour?
    You want to level up lvl death when the time comes, like say get the first level of it at level 5, then when level 6 comes you got a stronk nuke and your ulti. Just time it with the enemy, not max it out or you will miss out on some damage.

    and warm glowing orange juice at your feet helps you stay on your lane so I feel that has more priority
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  16. Post #3416
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    December 2008
    3,519 Posts
    I try to rush it to multiples of 3 but it's also great lasthitting those low HP guys who get away from me when I mid with him. Then I just stare at the scoreboard for the poor bastards with 3/6/9/12/15 etc levels and hunt them down.

    Scorched is great if I lane top or bot just because you go so fast with that + phase boots + taskmaster aura, great for escaping ganks or diving. Lvl death isn't as effective top or bot just because it's easier to stay healed and hide behind a tree to cancel my casting.
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  17. Post #3417
    Gilgadood's Avatar
    September 2010
    501 Posts
    Yeah the build I was mumblin about is for safe laning, with possible soloing.
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  18. Post #3418
    Watching the world burn is my hobby.
    Banned?'s Avatar
    February 2005
    16,621 Posts
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  19. Post #3419
    Rarara's Avatar
    April 2011
    6,237 Posts
    New thread already?

    Which post is last post?
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  20. Post #3420
    Dennab
    September 2011
    10,298 Posts
    New thread already?

    Which post is last post?
    Mine most likely.
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  21. Post #3421
    Rarara's Avatar
    April 2011
    6,237 Posts
    Mine most likely.
    Wait there isn't a limit anymore? They have to manually close all threads?
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  22. Post #3422
    Dennab
    September 2011
    10,298 Posts
    Wait there isn't a limit anymore? They have to manually close all threads?
    Quite indeed.
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  23. Post #3423
    Rarara's Avatar
    April 2011
    6,237 Posts
    Quite indeed.
    Didn't know that, guess it was added this year.
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  24. Post #3424
    MisterUndead's Avatar
    November 2007
    309 Posts
    - snip -
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  25. Post #3425
    Rockersm's Avatar
    November 2007
    901 Posts
    This game's community sucks.
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  26. Post #3426
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    April 2009
    1,130 Posts
    Today I found out how depressingly high the skill ceiling actually is. A friend of a friend of mine invited two guys into our party that we later found out were usually in the highest queue bracket but were queueing in low because they were with us. One of the guys was so good that he went higher than 20-3 every single game regardless of hero or whether or not we lost.

    When he picked sand king he would burrow strike out of Jakiro's freeze EVERY TIME without fail, and blinked out of Axe's culling blade halfway through the animation. He went 12-0 at the start and only began dying when the enemy carries started to beef up. He even got a pentakill with his ultimate and caustic finale at one point. It's funny that there is a whole world of players that good that low tier players don't even know about, and just stay in low tier because they learn bad shit from each other. I learned so much from them about builds and tactics in ~5 games it's insane.
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  27. Post #3427
    l l
    lmao
    Dennab
    December 2011
    10,758 Posts
    This game's community sucks.
    I was thinking of maruhai as being a staple for most players who are bad mannered

    then I saw he rated you dumb and proved that point

    lmao
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  28. Post #3428
    Dennab
    September 2011
    10,298 Posts
    I was thinking of maruhai as being a staple for most players who are bad mannered

    then I saw he rated you dumb and proved that point

    lmao
    I rated him dumb for two reasons:
    1. the community is fine
    2. this is the wrong thread

    Also stop hating me because I'm not giving you an unusual for free, seriously dude.
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  29. Post #3429
    l l
    lmao
    Dennab
    December 2011
    10,758 Posts
    I rated him dumb for two reasons:
    1. the community is fine
    2. this is the wrong thread

    Also stop hating me because I'm not giving you an unusual for free, seriously dude.
    "give me a courier ok"

    do you legitimately think I was serious

    I don't even know you lol why would you give me anything

    Edited:

    lmao

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  30. Post #3430
    Dennab
    September 2011
    10,298 Posts
    "give me a courier ok"

    do you legitimately think I was serious

    I don't even know you lol why would you give me anything
    Yeah that's exactly why you're banned from TF2Outpost right.
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  31. Post #3431
    l l
    lmao
    Dennab
    December 2011
    10,758 Posts
    Yeah that's exactly why you're banned from TF2Outpost right.
    We've jumped from you being bad mannered and couriers to ME being banned on another site that has nothing to do with this.

    Maruhai is good at retorting.

    (I'm not banned)
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  32. Post #3432
    provides mlp plot free of charge
    Oicani Gonzales's Avatar
    February 2011
    17,740 Posts
    the following is a list of people who care:
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  33. Post #3433
    Dennab
    September 2011
    10,298 Posts
    We've jumped from you being bad mannered and couriers to ME being banned on another site that has nothing to do with this.

    Maruhai is good at retorting.

    (I'm not banned)
    Yeah right.
    First off, you are banned, second, my point is that you're sharking.

    I can also tell that you told me multiple times to "report this post" on Facepunch, just because you didn't like the guy, thing that I only did if I thought the post was ban worthly.

    Who's the bad mannered ?

    Edited:

    the following is a list of people who care:
    This is the old thread regardless, it's not like we're stopping any kind of discussion.
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  34. Post #3434
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    pvt.meh's Avatar
    December 2005
    3,573 Posts
    why is there 2 threads anyway..?

    also doesn't mean you're not squabbling like children over silly shit.
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  35. Post #3435
    MendozaMan's Avatar
    April 2007
    4,967 Posts
    Break it up you two
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  36. Post #3436
    l l
    lmao
    Dennab
    December 2011
    10,758 Posts
    First off, you are banned
    Look me up on outpost lol

    moving to new thread and ignoring you on here, yay
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  37. Post #3437
    Rarara's Avatar
    April 2011
    6,237 Posts
    ITP: Maruhai picks another fight.
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  38. Post #3438
    Dennab
    September 2011
    10,298 Posts
    ITP: Maruhai picks another fight.
    I'm never starting any fights.
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  39. Post #3439
    I bought this title for 1 dollar
    titopei's Avatar
    April 2009
    8,507 Posts
    Selling popcorn.
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  40. Post #3440
    Dennab
    September 2011
    10,298 Posts
    Selling popcorn.
    2 keys
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