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deathrune3.0 · 7th June 2012

Hello.
I am trying to install LXDE gui on my Arch linux. This is a new install on a virtual machine.

I have downloaded it, what do i do from here?
I have read through the wiki but it is hard to understand.
The part which is confusing is when it says I have to edit the inittab or what ever it is.

Please help me fellow linux users.
Many thanks in advance

Boris-B · 7th June 2012

You need to give us some more information.

You said you downloaded LXDE, but that can mean a ridiculous number of things.

What guide have you been following if you've followed any?

Are you going to use a display/login manager to start LXDE?

If so, which one? and have you installed said display/login manager?

Have you taken a look at this: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/LXDE ?

deathrune3.0 · 7th June 2012

Boris-B posted:

You need to give us some more information.

You said you downloaded LXDE, but that can mean a ridiculous number of things.

What guide have you been following if you've followed any?

Are you going to use a display/login manager to start LXDE?

If so, which one? and have you installed said display/login manager?

Have you taken a look at this: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/LXDE ?

Hi, yes this was the guide i was following.
The part where I got stuck is in the wiki when it says

After the installation finishes, copy three files to ~/.config/openbox as instructed by pacman:

I have installed lxde

# pacman -S lxde

I am also quite sure I installed xorg.
Please could you tell me what I should be doing now

Thankyou

Whi

Boris-B · 7th June 2012

The arch wiki posted:

Code:

mkdir -p ~/.config/openbox
cp /etc/xdg/openbox/menu.xml /etc/xdg/openbox/rc.xml /etc/xdg/openbox/autostart ~/.config/openbox

deathrune3.0 · 7th June 2012

Thankyou. I managed to move those files, accept the autostart - "No such file or directory".
It could of already been moved.

But I'm trying to install the display manager, so I installed quingy.

The recurring problem is editing inittab file.
I'm sure you think this is easy but I can't find any commands or help on google so I ask you.
How to open and edit text files such as inittab and xintric

thanks

**Niteshifter** · 7th June 2012

You'll probably want to use this. Just replace 'file' with whatever you want to edit.

Code:

nano -w file

Boris-B · 7th June 2012

The autostart file shold be there.

Run the following commands and paste the results here

Code:

ls /etc/xdg/openbox
ls ~/.config/openbox

You can post a screenshot of the results since copying from console isn't the easiest thing to do.

To edit files you'll need a file editor. Since you don't have a GUI one you'll need to use a console one. Arch should come with nano. To edit files simply do:

Code:

nano <filename>

Nano's controls are displayed at the bottom of the screen ^ stands for Ctrl So ^X mean Ctrl+x.

deathrune3.0 · 7th June 2012

Niteshifter posted:

You'll probably want to use this. Just replace 'file' with whatever you want to edit.

Code:

nano -w file

Thanks, but it opens it in a black doccument, is this people I have the wrong directory of files?
I try nano -w usr/bin/xinit and other files.

But I try to Replace *getty with qingy
by nano -w /etc/inittab
Only a black doccument

I don't know what to do.

How do I open the full document to edit?

Thanks

Boris-B · 7th June 2012

Two things to start off.

/usr/bin/xinit is a binary or a script. You shouldn't attempt to edit it. The file you probably will need to edit is .xinitrc which is found in ~/.xinitrc

When you specify usr/bin/xinit you are refering to usr/bin/xinit relative to what directory you're in.
So if you're in /that/one/directory and you specify usr/bin/xinit it is understood that you want /that/one/directory/usr/bin/xinit Absolute paths start with a /

deathrune3.0 · 10th June 2012

Guess who's back!
I stuck master i stuck!

.xinitrc which is found in ~/.xinitrc

This doesnt make sense for noobs and the wiki page doesnt help either.
Where exactly is .xinitrc?
Please, what is the full command to edit .xinitrc?

Thankyou very much

Foxconn · 10th June 2012

FOR FUCK'S SAKE.

/home/<your username>/.xinitrc

Any directory that has the "~/" in it is in your HOME FOLDER.

Stop asking rhetorical questions and take a WAY closer look at the Wiki.

And about editing it,

USE THE FUCKING NANO.

deathrune3.0 · 10th June 2012

Foxconn posted:

FOR FUCK'S SAKE.

/home/<your username>/.xinitrc

Any directory that has the "~/" in it is in your HOME FOLDER.

Stop asking rhetorical questions and take a WAY closer look at the Wiki.

And about editing it,

USE THE FUCKING NANO.

This guy

Thanks

Edited:

I still stuck, its like each step there is something ridiculous that I dont know, its only about knowing the commands and the wiki doesnt give you them clearly. Its like this with all linux distros, each distro has an entire new set of terminal commands so its very annoying.

Linux appears to have freedom and give you the ability to do what you want. This comes at a price of reading.

I just want a small size distro with large support for wine. Most distros dont have good wikis to support them.

So now I give Archbang a try

Unless someone please tell me how to install lxde. Ive downloaded it and all i just dont know how to run it and configure it. Ive installed Arch a while ago with xde not lxde.

Naelstrom · 10th June 2012

Cool thing about Linux is that we can just give you a bunch of terminal commands to do it for you:

Step0: Ensure you have a normal user created and that you're logged in as him!

Code:

useradd -m -g users -G audio,lp,optical,storage,video,wheel,games,power,scanner -s /bin/bash username
passwd username
logout
(then login as username using virtual console)

Step1: Be root

Code:

su

Step2: Install lxde

Code:

pacman -S lxde

If it prompts for something, just press enter to select the default.

Step3: Ensure you have dbus listed in your daemons.

Code:

echo '#
# /etc/rc.conf - Main Configuration for Arch Linux
#
# See 'man 5 rc.conf' for more details
#

# LOCALIZATION
# ------------
HARDWARECLOCK="UTC"
TIMEZONE=
KEYMAP="us"
CONSOLEFONT=
CONSOLEMAP=
LOCALE="en_US.UTF-8"
DAEMON_LOCALE="yes"
USECOLOR="yes"

# HARDWARE
# --------
MODULES=()
USEDMRAID="no"
USEBTRFS="no"
USELVM="no"

# NETWORKING
# ----------
HOSTNAME="myhost"

interface=
address=
netmask=
broadcast=
gateway=

NETWORK_PERSIST="no"

# DAEMONS
# -------
#
DAEMONS=(syslog-ng network crond dbus) #!!!!' > /etc/rc.conf

Step4: Ensure your system boots into X11 mode, and disable any login managers (because we don't have any!)

Code:

echo '#
# /etc/inittab
#

#  Runlevels:
#    0    Halt
#    1(S)   Single-user
#    2    Not used
#    3    Multi-user
#    4    Not used
#    5    X11
#    6    Reboot

## Only one of the following two lines can be uncommented!
# Boot to console
#id:3:initdefault: !!!!!!!!!!!
# Boot to X11 vvv!!
id:5:initdefault:

rc::sysinit:/etc/rc.sysinit
rs:S1:wait:/etc/rc.single
rm:2345:wait:/etc/rc.multi
rh:06:wait:/etc/rc.shutdown
su:S:wait:/sbin/sulogin -p

# -8 options fixes umlauts problem on login
c1:2345:respawn:/sbin/agetty -8 -s 38400 tty1 linux
c2:2345:respawn:/sbin/agetty -8 -s 38400 tty2 linux
c3:2345:respawn:/sbin/agetty -8 -s 38400 tty3 linux
#c4:2345:respawn:/sbin/agetty -8 -s 38400 tty4 linux
#c5:2345:respawn:/sbin/agetty -8 -s 38400 tty5 linux
#c6:2345:respawn:/sbin/agetty -8 -s 38400 tty6 linux

# Serial Virtual Console for KVM and others VMs
#s0:2345:respawn:/sbin/agetty -8 -s 9600 ttyS0 linux

# Hypervisor Virtual Console for Xen and KVM
#h0:2345:respawn:/sbin/agetty -8 -s 38400 hvc0 linux

ca::ctrlaltdel:/sbin/shutdown -t3 -r now

# Example lines for starting a login manager
#x:5:respawn:/usr/bin/xdm -nodaemon !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
#x:5:respawn:/usr/sbin/gdm -nodaemon
#x:5:respawn:/usr/bin/kdm -nodaemon
#x:5:respawn:/usr/bin/slim >/dev/null 2>&1

# End of file' > /etc/inittab

Step5: Make sure consolekit is installed

Code:

pacman -S consolekit

Step6: Install required X packages

Code:

pacman -S xorg-server xorg-xinit xorg-server-utils mesa xf86-input-keyboard xf86-input-mouse

Step7: Install video drivers (You can just install the major opensource ones and be fine, or you can figure out what videocard you really have and install proper proprietary ones)

Code:

pacman -S xf86-video-nouveau xf86-video-ati xf86-video-intel

Step8: Prepare system to start x, and become a normal user

Code:

init 5 ; exit

Step9: Create ~/.xinitrc

Code:

echo 'exec ck-launch-session dbus-launch startlxde' > ~/.xinitrc

Step10: Start X!

Code:

startx

I may have forgotten something, not all systems are the same so this tutorial might not work perfectly for you. Feel free to ask me if something doesn't work or you don't understand something.

I tried to add exclamation points on important lines that you should pay attention to.

**neos300** · 10th June 2012

deathrune3.0 posted:

This guy

Thanks

Edited:

I still stuck, its like each step there is something ridiculous that I dont know, its only about knowing the commands and the wiki doesnt give you them clearly. Its like this with all linux distros, each distro has an entire new set of terminal commands so its very annoying.

Linux appears to have freedom and give you the ability to do what you want. This comes at a price of reading.

I just want a small size distro with large support for wine. Most distros dont have good wikis to support them.

So now I give Archbang a try

Unless someone please tell me how to install lxde. Ive downloaded it and all i just dont know how to run it and configure it. Ive installed Arch a while ago with xde not lxde.

I think you should go back to Ubuntu (or even windows), you have proven yourself to not be competent enough to read instructions, Arch has a great wiki.

**Niteshifter** · 11th June 2012

deathrune3.0 posted:

Linux appears to have freedom and give you the ability to do what you want. This comes at a price of reading.

This comes with everything in life. If you aren't going to read, you aren't willing to learn.

deathrune3.0 · 11th June 2012

Naelstrom posted:

Cool thing about Linux is that we can just give you a bunch of terminal commands to do it for.
I tried to add exclamation points on important lines that you should pay attention to.

This was very helpful, though I think it made Arch crash at the end with echo 'exec ck-launch-session dbus-launch startlxde' > ~/.xinitrc

Wait sorry, I made the .xinitrc now. In ~/.xinitrc
But startx / start x doesnt seam to work.

-bash: startx: command not found

Wait a minute, I missed something out in the inittab
cannot execute /usr/bin/xdm

Boris-B · 11th June 2012

If startx doesn't exist as a command it means that you're missing 1 or a few packages.

You need to install xorg-xinit

Code:

pacman -S xorg-xinit

Then try to run startx

deathrune3.0 · 11th June 2012

Boris-B posted:

If startx doesn't exist as a command it means that you're missing 1 or a few packages.

You need to install xorg-xinit

Code:

pacman -S xorg-xinit

Then try to run startx

Thanks but wait a minute, I understand how to use Arch now. So I can stop asking noob questions. I understand I have to configure .xinitrc and add the window manager and such but before that I need to make it with the skeliton

Naelstrom · 11th June 2012

deathrune3.0 posted:

Wait a minute, I missed something out in the inittab
cannot execute /usr/bin/xdm

This is because you forgot to comment out the login manager in /etc/inittab. Look at my inittab carefully, I've placed exclamation points on lines of interest.

Boris-B · 11th June 2012

deathrune3.0 posted:

Thanks but wait a minute, I understand how to use Arch now. So I can stop asking noob questions. I understand I have to configure .xinitrc and add the window manager and such but before that I need to make it with the skeliton

Adding it to the skeleton is not necessary. It's only useful if you are going to have multiple users on the system using X at once and you'll be adding more users. In your case I don't think you need to set up the skeleton.

On a side note. You should go through the beginner's guide again making sure you setup everything correctly.