[Motherfuckers]

Drsalvador posted:

what's your point? literally anything can be a trigger. a paedophile could have his latent paedophillia triggered by a bloody bicycle seat.

I just had like a mental image of a seemingly normal business man walking along, he looks down and sees a used condom lying ontop of a discarded child's sock in the gutter and he gets all sweaty and shit

Cut to next panel of him 100 pounds fatter jerking it too manga, meanwhile two CIA guys hi5 over a job well done, make plans for the removal of annoying politicians.

[*Freezorg*]

proch posted:

Personally i think this is a tad more arouding than that, but i guess that's just an opinion.

They're both horrible

[Falchion]

When I first saw news about this trial, the Lundström guy explained they were "research material" because he's somekinda anime expert.

Honestly, I think loli is pretty awful and I think that guy is pretty awful but I don't know if he should be put to jail or not.

[Amaurus]

Falchion posted:

When I first saw news about this trial, the Lundström guy explained they were "research material" because he's somekinda anime expert.

Honestly, I think loli is pretty awful and I think that guy is pretty awful but I don't know if he should be put to jail or not.

If it is depicting actual nearby children then I can see where the problem is. But fictional characters is fine with me, as no one is being harmed.
Besides, the government has more things to worry about than people jacking it to kids that don't even exist.

[Crimor]

All these people saying it's "awful" or "disgusting"

I don't like furry porn, pony porn, or that fake ass porn america shits out by the boatload, you don't hear me saying you all should be jailed for it. it's called preference, and as long as it doesn't hurt anyone but yourself you can do whatever the fuck you want.

[J!NX]

meanwhile in america

simply seeing loli for 1 second will have you marked down as a sex offender for the rest of your life.

[DentalDoctor]

Awesomecaek posted:

I am rather interested to hear what makes you so sure.

Because you get so used to fantasizing about fucking kids that you could think you can take advantage of them because you get off to it all the time

where do you think pedophiles come from?

[Inufin]

Drsalvador posted:

what's your point? literally anything can be a trigger. a paedophile could have his latent paedophillia triggered by a bloody bicycle seat.

My point is exactly what you said. Anything can trigger it and that would be the reason people tried to criminalize loli in the first place because they were afraid that it could trigger it.

[UnMute]

Falchion posted:

When I first saw news about this trial, the Lundström guy explained they were "research material" because he's somekinda anime expert.

Honestly, I think loli is pretty awful and I think that guy is pretty awful but I don't know if he should be put to jail or not.

He lost his job as a translator because of this, and was on trial for 39 out of thousands and thousands of manga images on his hard drive. I wouldn't exactly think that he is awful because a small part of his material was questionable.
This looked more like a punishment for being interested in japanese manga culture than anything. And the whole reason for his arrest was that his ex-wife wanted full custody of their daughter and lied about him. The police searching through his computer was just a consequense of this.

[DentalDoctor]

Inufin posted:

My point is exactly what you said. Anything can trigger it and that would be the reason people tried to criminalize loli in the first place because they were afraid that it could trigger it.

I agree, I can see where everyone else point comes from, that if you watch it and like then that's your own business. I just know for a fact that since this is decriminalized some (not all) people will blur the line between what's legal and what isn't because of it in this case.

[Crimor]

DentalDoctor posted:

Because you get so used to fantasizing about fucking kids that you could think you can take advantage of them because you get off to it all the time

where do you think pedophiles come from?

I bet you also think homosexuality is a choice.

[DentalDoctor]

Crimor posted:

I bet you also think homosexuality is a choice.

how the fuck does that apply to anything

so you're born to want to fuck kids no matter what?

children aren't a gender, so yes pedophilia is a choice, you either go past the point or you don't plain and simple.

[Crimor]

It's called sexual preference, some people like redheads, some people like blondes, nobody likes gingers, some people like old people, some people like young people.


And as I said earlier, most people who like loli, does not like real kids.

Edited:

And you're being stupid and mistaking pedophilia for being a child rapist. You probably look at porn, correct? Do you go out and rape women/men/horses after that?

[Ricool06]

DentalDoctor posted:

how the fuck does that apply to anything

so you're born to want to fuck kids no matter what?

children aren't a gender, so yes pedophilia is a choice, you either go past the point or you don't plain and simple.

You know that the human brain doesn't determine attractiveness on whether it perceives someone or something to be male or female right?
It can find a whole plethora of characteristics attractive without knowing if the hold of these features is a man or woman.
Most of the time, people can't control who or what they are attracted to, so the fact that a lot of countries use outdated means like prohibition of animated child pornography to stop abuse is idiotic.

Stop trying to justify your discomfort and hate by making statements about something you clearly don't understand.

[Lonestriper]

Here is something to stop comparing, paedophilia to homosexuality; paedophilia is a fetish, homosexuality is a sexuality.

[UnMute]

DentalDoctor posted:

how the fuck does that apply to anything

so you're born to want to fuck kids no matter what?

children aren't a gender, so yes pedophilia is a choice, you either go past the point or you don't plain and simple.

It astounds me as to how you can actually think pedophilia = child rape. People actually can like the thought of having sex with children, not do it because it's wrong, and you know what, they still are pedophiles.

[Crimor]

Actually, for something to be a fetish it has to be an inanimate object, like stockings for example, but I know you meant something else, just correcting ya

[JohnnyMo1]

DentalDoctor posted:

children aren't a gender, so yes pedophilia is a choice

:|

[Crimor]

JohnnyMo1 posted:

:|

He's so misguided that it's kinda cute, can we keep him?

[DentalDoctor]

Crimor posted:

It's called sexual preference, some people like redheads, some people like blondes, nobody likes gingers, some people like old people, some people like young people.


And as I said earlier, most people who like loli, does not like real kids.

Edited:

And you're being stupid and mistaking pedophilia for being a child rapist. You probably look at porn, correct? Do you go out and rape women/men/horses after that?

Okay so seeing as its a sexual preference (I honestly cannot comprehend it), you're saying that it cannot be helped? You're not born with the chemical reactions to make you want to fuck your offspring (fake or not), homosexuality I can understand you may be born with, but not finding children arousing

You can't deny that with this taking place people with see a blur between what you can and cant do; now i'm not saying everyone will, you can spank it to young kids all you want man, but it is really sick, and can be changed. Want to know how? Stop thinking about fucking kids ..

And your priorities are fucked up, i go and get women to sleep with me, not force .

[Zacca]

acds posted:

I do find people jacking it to loli weird and kinda sick (after all, you are fapping to the sexual thought of children), but that hardly means it's criminal.

Might be a bit weird, but that's not what he does.
He translates manga.

[JohnnyMo1]

DentalDoctor posted:

You're not born with the chemical reactions to make you want to fuck your offspring (fake or not), homosexuality I can understand you may be born with, but not finding children arousing

yes pedophilia is definitely a choice and to become a pedophile you have to pour child-fucking chemicals directly onto your brain

[DentalDoctor]

Crimor posted:

Actually, for something to be a fetish it has to be an inanimate object, like stockings for example, but I know you meant something else, just correcting ya

oh you really know nothing

the most popular fetish off the top of my head i can think of is feet and those are obviously inanimate right

and i probably worded my choice comment wrong, but in a way it is a choice, you're just not suddenly born with the fetish of fucking kids, how do you not see this

I just find it astounding that some of you guys are actually trying to justify it like its a good thing you should be proud of

[Lonestriper]

Crimor posted:

Actually, for something to be a fetish it has to be an inanimate object, like stockings for example, but I know you meant something else, just correcting ya

Wikipedia tells me sexual fetishism is both for certain situations or objects and we all know wikipedia is infallible so

[Crimor]

DentalDoctor posted:

Okay so seeing as its a sexual preference (I honestly cannot comprehend it), you're saying that it cannot be helped? You're not born with the chemical reactions to make you want to fuck your offspring (fake or not), homosexuality I can understand you may be born with, but not finding children arousing

You can't deny that with this taking place people with see a blur between what you can and cant do; now i'm not saying everyone will, you can spank it to young kids all you want man, but it is really sick, and can be changed. Want to know how? Stop thinking about fucking kids ..

Stop thinking about fucking women

And your priorities are fucked up, i go and get women to sleep with me, not force.

Suure~

[JohnnyMo1]

DentalDoctor posted:

and i probably worded my choice comment wrong, but in a way it is a choice, you're just not suddenly born with the fetish of fucking kids, how do you not see this

so because the particular sexual preference is bad, it can't possibly be a choice unlike other harmless sexual preferences

[Crimor]

Lonestriper posted:

Wikipedia tells me sexual fetishism is both for certain situations or objects and we all know wikipedia is infallible so

Actually, sexual fetishism is about areas of the body not inherently sexual(armpits, feet, etc) Pretty sure wikipedia says this too unless someones been fucking with it recently

[UnMute]

DentalDoctor posted:

Want to know how? Stop thinking about fucking kids ..

This is easy for us who aren't into it, but are you serious? So we should just tell pedos to stop being pedos? That would solve everything

[Lonestriper]

Crimor posted:

Actually, sexual fetishism is about areas of the body not inherently sexual(armpits, feet, etc) Pretty sure wikipedia says this too unless someones been fucking with it recently

I refer back to the literal infallibility of Wiki(truth)pedia (which is infallible) so I have to take everything it says 100% literally therefore I was completely correct in my assumption at the time of posting due to the aforementioned (literal) infallbility of Wikinfallipedia

[DentalDoctor]

Crimor posted:

Actually, sexual fetishism is about areas of the body not inherently sexual(armpits, feet, etc) Pretty sure wikipedia says this too unless someones been fucking with it recently

Crimor posted:

Actually, for something to be a fetish it has to be an inanimate object, like stockings for example, but I know you meant something else, just correcting ya

lol

Actually,

[Crimor]

Fetishism and Sexual Fetishism are two different things.

It's kinda fun teaching you about basic things, like reading.

[DentalDoctor]

UnMute posted:

This is easy for us who aren't into it, but are you serious? So we should just tell pedos to stop being pedos? That would solve everything

That's true what your saying, it definitely would take time to fix (not that it's a problem) but you can help it if you want, no doubt.

And I'm not saying that to sound like some kind of faith healer or some shit.

[LegndNikko]

Inufin posted:

Well I just basically mean that anything can happen. Here is the case what I thought up in my head.

Someone random browsing the internet and finds loli. He goes through them, faps, whatever. "Well, that was weird." He might think. Anyway, at this point he might actually start trying to find more because now he knows that he liked it. And at that point when there is an opportunity to "harm" children instead of passing the chance he already have been in contact with the subject through internet and pictures and maybe even photos, if he hadn't found the pictures in the first place he wouldn't even realize it. It might be just watching first, but if your moral isn't working as it should it might turn into a real life horror story. And we know these things do happen.

"Hm, this porno seems hot. I know! I'll go rape someone out on the street to experience it!"

[Inufin]

DentalDoctor posted:

That's true what your saying, it definitely would take time to fix (not that it's a problem) but you can help it if you want, no doubt.

And I'm not saying that to sound like some kind of faith healer or some shit.

Lets change everyone sexual preferences so it is according to the society!

[DentalDoctor]

Crimor posted:

Fetishism and Sexual Fetishism are two different things.

It's kinda fun teaching you about basic things, like reading.

True enough, but I'm not into that kind of stuff, while you might, I delve into other things

like dat puzzy homyy

[Inufin]

LegndNikko posted:

"Hm, this porno seems hot. I know! I'll go rape someone out on the street to experience it!"

You aren't supposed to take it that literally. It was just an example of something triggering it. We already discussed it.

[DentalDoctor]

Inufin posted:

Lets change everyone sexual preferences so it is according to the society!

I'm saying this to prove the point that you aren't born with it and can't help it, but that went riiight over your head.

[Crimor]

Quick question, how old are you exactly? And I say again try to stop thinking about women in any sexual way, forever, can you?


Oh and just to clarify about something you said earlier, flunitrazepam isn't a type of consent.

[JohnnyMo1]

DentalDoctor posted:

I'm saying this to prove the point that you aren't born with it and can't help it, but that went riiight over your head.

wh- what

so clinical depression is a choice because you can help it? Schizophrenia is a choice because you can treat it?

[Drsalvador]

Inufin posted:

My point is exactly what you said. Anything can trigger it and that would be the reason people tried to criminalize loli in the first place because they were afraid that it could trigger it.

then criminalize everything. since anything can trigger underlying paedophilia.