1. Post #1
    GenPol's Avatar
    June 2012
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    While speculation in the lead-up to the June 4 European Union-Russia summit focused on whether EU leaders would pressure Russian President Vladimir Putin to act in war-torn Syria, the meeting remained focused on strengthening economic ties between the two key trading partners.

    Held in St. Petersburg, it was the first such gathering since Putin returned to the presidency last month. European Council President Herman Van Rompuy and European Commission President Josť Manuel Barroso represented the EU, and Putin used the opportunity to press for what he called a "Eurasian Union."

    "We are convinced that the setting up of the Customs Union, of the Common Economic Space, and in the future, possibly, of the Eurasian economic union, is fully compatible with the tasks of enhancing cooperation between Russia and the European Union," he said.

    Brussels and Moscow have attempted to negotiate new basic parameters for their relationship off and on since 2008. Those discussions proved largely fruitless as Russia remained outside the World Trade Organization. But Russia signed up to join the WTO in December 2011, with membership likely to become active later this summer.

    "The idea of the Eurasian economic union, if based on the WTO rules, could lead to positive contributions to trade, prosperity and cooperation," Putin said.

    The growing crisis in Syria, a key Russian ally, dominated pre-summit hype, but received just a few mentions as the leaders held a press conference to summarize their discussions June 4. In short, the leaders seemed to agree to disagree.

    The United States and EU are pushing Moscow to take increased measures against the government of Bashar al-Assad, which is accused of targeting civilians in an attempt to quell a burgeoning rebellion in the country that threatens to erupt into full-blown civil war. As a permanent member of the UN Security Council, Russia has watered down or sidetracked measures touted by much of the West.

    Van Rompuy said Putin had agreed that UN envoy Kofi Annan's so-called peace plan remains the best way forward in the short term, but that is likely a disappointing result as many see that plan as failing to end violence in Syria. Annan is calling for the withdrawal of heavy weaponry from urban areas and a ceasefire between government and opposition forces. He is scheduled to meet with U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Clinton in Washington, D.C. June 8.

    "The European Union and Russia might have some diverging assessments, but we fully agree that the Annan plan as a whole provides the best opportunity to break the cycle of violence in Syria," Van Rompuy said. "We need to combine our efforts in order for this to happen, and to find common messages on which we agree."

    For its part, Russia denies it is sheltering al-Assad's regime, but during presidential campaigning earlier this year, Putin insisted he would not allow another "Libyan scenario" in Syria, a reference to NATO efforts that led to the downfall of Muammar al-Qaddafi.

    The summit came a day after al-Assad denied his government forces were to blame for the May 25 massacre of more than 100 people, including scores of children, in the town of Houla, blaming the attack on "terrorists."

    The UN has blamed pro-government forces, while Russian leaders have said the attack was likely carried out by opposition rebels as a "provocation." With little agreement on how to move forward in Syria, the leaders nonetheless sought to put a positive spin on the talks.

    "We're listening to each other, and we understand each other," Putin said.

    Barroso quoted Russian writer Alexander Pushkin in an attempt to depict the discussions as productive.

    "We can try and fail, but we should not fail to try," he said.
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    This seems strangely familiar.
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    The EACSSR?
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    This reminded me of the Earth Trilogy.

    If anyone remembers the ED(Eurasian Dynasty).
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    Welp, I'm gonna go hide my gold and guns in a place I can find em when the commies land on our beaches. WOLVERINES!
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  7. Post #7
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    Considering everyone involved in this has striven to compare it to the Soviet Union in some regard, seems pretty accurate. Namely, it would be composed entirely of prior Soviet states and Putin himself has said it would "Build on the best parts of the Soviet Union." Where as everyone else has said "This just aims to reestablish the Soviet Union as a power."

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    It's all coming together
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    Big Putin will eventually maybe be watching you.
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    If life gives you melons, you may be dyslexic.
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    It's all coming together
    That means that walkers are close by
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    That means that walkers are close by
    and my goddamn flying cars.
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    [QUOTE=Repulsion;36347866]Big Putin will eventually maybe be watching you.[/QUO

    Well obviously America should create oceania
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    I love how the Baltics are excluded from the EAC but Georgia isn't

    I'm sure Georgia would love to be in the EAC :rollseyes:
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    That means that walkers are close by
    In development

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  15. Post #15
    GenPol's Avatar
    June 2012
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    I love how the Baltics are excluded from the EAC but Georgia isn't

    I'm sure Georgia would love to be in the EAC :rollseyes:
    It will just get re-invaded.
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    Too bad all countries can't solidify into a single nation, imagine virtually everyone working on the same side, no countries fighting each other.
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    Too bad all countries can't solidify into a single nation, imagine virtually everyone working on the same side, no countries fighting each other.
    You seriously think that would work? Ever?
    Let me quote the Sniper on this one: "As long as there's two people left on the planet, someone is going to want someone dead."
    Seriously, with all the different religions, cultures, political views, everything, you'd still have them trying to kill each other. Hell, the only thing keeping some states from attacking each other is the fear that the federal government would intervene.
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    I am sorry but what the hell, this looks like a logo Cobracon would use. Also the simpsons was right.
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    You seriously think that would work? Ever?
    Let me quote the Sniper on this one: "As long as there's two people left on the planet, someone is going to want someone dead."
    Seriously, with all the different religions, cultures, political views, everything, you'd still have them trying to kill each other. Hell, the only thing keeping some states from attacking each other is the fear that the federal government would intervene.
    Better to keep hoping and strive toward that, then to give into pessimism and continue the problem.
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    Better to keep hoping and strive toward that, then to give into pessimism and continue the problem.
    I've not giving in to pessimism, I'm admitting to realism. Seriously, does anyone ever think that this would work in any way? Aside from the issues I mentioned, getting there would be a nightmare. You think the current nations would want to sacrifice their sovereignty for a pipe dream?
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    Too bad all countries can't solidify into a single nation, imagine virtually everyone working on the same side, no countries fighting each other.
    Reminds me of this song


    Edited:

    I've not giving in to pessimism, I'm admitting to realism. Seriously, does anyone ever think that this would work in any way? Aside from the issues I mentioned, getting there would be a nightmare. You think the current nations would want to sacrifice their sovereignty for a pipe dream?
    So just because it'll take a lot of work and won't happen overnight, we should all give up because it's "unreal"?
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    Too bad all countries can't solidify into a single nation, imagine virtually everyone working on the same side, no countries fighting each other.
    ahem
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    If it were a list of "wars" in general, I'd understand, but I don't get posting a list of civil wars has to do with what he said?
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    Too bad all countries can't solidify into a single nation, imagine virtually everyone working on the same side, no countries fighting each other.
    A country is just a set of people. A country isn't an entity itself, but a set of entities.
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  25. Post #25
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    October 2007
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    Well obviously America should create oceania
    And Europe should form some sort of Unio- oh...
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    You seriously think that would work? Ever?
    Let me quote the Sniper on this one: "As long as there's two people left on the planet, someone is going to want someone dead."
    Seriously, with all the different religions, cultures, political views, everything, you'd still have them trying to kill each other. Hell, the only thing keeping some states from attacking each other is the fear that the federal government would intervene.
    I said too bad we couldn't, obviously we probably wont, at the most it'll be 5 very big nations warring amongst each other, but the less split up our species is, the better.
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    I said too bad we couldn't, obviously we probably wont, at the most it'll be 5 very big nations warring amongst each other, but the less split up our species is, the better.
    Sounds like "why can't we just all get along".

    I think better would be a larger number of smaller nations. If you let any one organisation get too big they will always cause trouble.
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    1984 anyone?
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    Thread music:

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    I'd buy that for a dollar
    Dennab
    September 2008
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    Hm, might be able to kill me some Russian subs in the future. Aw yeah.

    Edited:

    Actually no, that would be fucking creepy as fuck.
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  31. Post #31
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    ALSO in before

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    If it were a list of "wars" in general, I'd understand, but I don't get posting a list of civil wars has to do with what he said?
    if you had a mega country and global unification you'd still have fighting and war within it.
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    So just because it'll take a lot of work and won't happen overnight, we should all give up because it's "unreal"?
    It just will not work. Mankind has been bopping his neighbors over the head with deadly instruments since the days of individual tribes roaming the forests, and will continue to do so until there is but one man left on Earth.


    It doesn't matter if everyone's under the same banner, there will still be war. It is human nature. Unifying all countries into one will only change the banners under which the parties fight.
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    Sounds like "why can't we just all get along".

    I think better would be a larger number of smaller nations. If you let any one organisation get too big they will always cause trouble.
    Big countries also become bloated an inefficient. Plus trying to make a wide array of people with different cutures and ideals follow the same laws can cause tension.

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    107% of Eurasians support this
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    aaaaand finland is fucked again
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    June 2011
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    You seriously think that would work? Ever?
    Let me quote the Sniper on this one: "As long as there's two people left on the planet, someone is going to want someone dead."
    Seriously, with all the different religions, cultures, political views, everything, you'd still have them trying to kill each other. Hell, the only thing keeping some states from attacking each other is the fear that the federal government would intervene.
    I dont think you understand what the Eurasian Union actually strives to do.

    It isn't the Soviet Union 2.0, it's merely an economic union - similar to the European Union. Converting the region to use one currency is actually a logical step because most post-Soviet states are fucking failing monetarily. Most are either on a constant decrease and the others stagnated.

    Would you call this the rebirth of the Soviet Union? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Commonw...pendent_States

    Nobody is losing their sovereignty here. Just like European nations haven't lost theirs when the EU was established. This isn't a "pipe dream" either.
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    You seriously think that would work? Ever?
    Let me quote the Sniper on this one: "As long as there's two people left on the planet, someone is going to want someone dead."
    Seriously, with all the different religions, cultures, political views, everything, you'd still have them trying to kill each other. Hell, the only thing keeping some states from attacking each other is the fear that the federal government would intervene.
    Isn't he saying that with "Too bad all countries can't solidify into a single nation"?
    Why are you rating SpaceGhost dumb?

  40. Post #40
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    The EU should definitely expand it's borders. It's silly that potential future candidates such as Turkey is excluded because of arbitrary continential borders (Europe is not a continent of its own, it's part of the Eurasian tectonic plate).
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