1. Post #201
    Governor Goblin's Avatar
    December 2011
    2,782 Posts
    Since Lotus wanted me to point out what is wrong with this video, I decided to do exactly that.

    Okay, first lets pick apart Corbett Report.

    James Corbett is not a credible source simply because of how fucking radically fucking crazy he is and inconsistent. He is writing a book called 'Reportage: Essays on the New World Order', it's about a thing that DOES NOT EXIST that he INSISTS exists.

    Lets take a look at his claims:
    He thinks Fukushima is a cover-up
    Oklahoma City Bombing was a cover-up
    The US is planning to go to war with Syria
    RFK's assassination was a cover-up.
    There's a thing called the Auschwitz express (Fuck this douchebag)
    The FBI and police use military drones to spy on citizens.
    The US is arming Japan with plutonium.

    This guy is clearly a fucking reactionary. He just claims EVERY big event is some sort of cover-up.

    Anyway, on to this piece of shit video:
    http://www.corbettreport.com/911-a-conspiracy-theory/

    On the morning of September 11, 2001, 19 men armed with box cutters
    Box cutters can be very imposing as they can kill people. This idea isn't really strange as the Israeli's have gone through it on a nearly yearly basis. Guns are a bad idea to hijack planes with. And box cutters are easy to slip by pre-9/11.

    directed by a man on dialysis
    Why the fuck does this matter? It's literally there JUST to discredit their capability of operation and it fucking doesn't. This is subtle trickery.

    in a cave fortress halfway around the world
    Again, more trickery. Location doesn't matter; I can call someone in fucking Australia now with my house phone so fuck this guy.

    using a satellite phone and a laptop directed the most sophisticated penetration of the most heavily-defended airspace in the world
    There's this thing called cells. They're groups of terrorists who act independent but with a goal. They weren't being directed by Bin Laden every step of the way and even if they were, I don't understand why this is, at all, relevant. Hijacking a plane is pretty simple when it's a one way trip. Matter of fact, Bin Laden barely had anything to do with the planning, that was all left up to Khalid Sheikh Mohammed. Sure Bin Laden gave the go ahead and aided in it, but he wasn't the architect.

    Even then, the communications picked up were done in code and it does take the NSA some time to decrypt them.

    They didn't penetrate a heavily-defended airspace. he's acting like they flew a fucking plane into the airspace.

    Hijacking a COMMERCIAL AEROPLANE in heavily defended airspace isn't crazy, the Israeli's have exceptionally defended airspace but their planes are still hijacked. No, what's crazy is using military missiles/planes to take down buildings and kill thousands of people and keep EVERYONE involved with it quiet. You never hear people who are 'involved' just those who have seen this or heard of a little bit of that. Quiet whispers.

    Jesus, 2 sentences in and this shitty video is already looking horrible

    overpowering the passengers
    Bystander effect. People are typically too fucking scared to do anything, or they're expecting their safety. I mean, how many times has a suicidal plane hijacking happened? They typically land them and hold them for ransom. I'm not the least bit surprised the passengers were not doing anything. I'm sure many of them contemplated it. Hell, we may not know, but one may have tried to and was killed for it. We don't know.

    By the way, Flight 93 was where the passengers DID go after the hijackers.

    and the military combat-trained pilots on 4 commercial aircraft.
    They were military trained - Thirty years before. And they were pilots without physical combat experience. Being military trained doesn't make you instantly impervious to box cutters to your head.

    before flying those planes wildly off course for over an hour without being molested by a single fighter interceptor.
    It's no where said if a plane goes missing for an hour that you need to prepare to shoot it down. Planes aren't always 100% on radar, they do eventually go out of site, and you attempt to contact them. Of course they start to worry, but do you think they fucking EXPECTED this kind of thing happening? It's not far fetched for control to lose track of planes for small periods of time.

    Now this is adding to the mix of conspirators, now the air control operators who were on duty are now involved. As are ALL air force members who are trained for this stuff or supposed to respond.

    These 19 hijackers, devout religious fundamentalists who liked to drink alcohol, snort cocaine, and live with pink-haired strippers
    Hypocrisy doesn't disprove them. And religion wasn't reasoning for the attacks on the trade centre, it was mostly political. A religious man with strong political beliefs and devotion can be a terrorist and drink alcohol

    managed to knock down 3 buildings with 2 planes in New York,
    Actually the third building was knocked down by being gutted and on fire for an entire day.

    while in Washington a pilot who couldn’t handle a single engine
    This has no source.

    Cessna was able to fly a 757 in an 8,000 foot descending 270 degree corkscrew turn to come exactly level with the ground, hitting the Pentagon
    This also has no source.

    Planes land, meaning it's not exactly crazy to fly a plane close to the ground. If you can turn a plane and land a plane and you can fly into a building, it's not that hard.

    in the budget analyst office where DoD staffers were working on the mystery of the 2.3 trillion dollars that Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld had announced “missing” from the Pentagon’s coffers in a press conference the day before, on September 10, 2001.
    So wait a second

    Wait

    wait just a fucking second, if this is the REASON they hit the pentagon, then they planed the attacks literally in a day. Holy shit are you fucking kidding me? Thousands of conspirators, tonnes of money, a massive plan to execute and cover up the largest crime in human history - all in ONE day? And this asshole wants to tell us that the official 9/11 report has holes?

    And why the fuck does this matter? The pentagon budget analyst office had been unoccupied and had only a few people in the area when the plane hit. And why does crashing a plane invalidate the investigation? I mean, if you can pay off thousands of people to cover this up, can't you pay off the budget analyst office?

    Luckily, the news anchors knew who did it within minutes, the pundits knew within hours, the Administration knew within the day
    This is more dishonest wording, all these people are on the chain of information.

    "The intelligence community for some time has been warning, in a steady drumbeat Brian, that Osama bin Laden has not been heard from frankly since the beginning of the year, the USS Cole incident rather and they've been wondering when and if he will strike again..."
    This is a quote from the CBS report after the attack. They aren't saying Bin Laden did it, they're saying, from what the intelligence community picked up, that Bin Laden is their current suspect and with good god damn reason. You think Intelligence groups take the day off until something happens? No they are CONSTANTLY watching groups and organisations and studying their patterns. al-Qaeda was a MAJOR threat to the US and was constantly being watched. Bin Laden wasn't this hidden threat that popped out of no where. Since the USS Cole, 1993 WTC bombing and the constant back and fourth between the US and al-Qaeda, yeah, you bet your ass his name would pop up.

    Why do you think Bin Laden's name came up first?
    Because al-Qaeda came up first, and who is the leader and prolific figure head? Bin Laden.

    And why did that group come up first?
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1993_Wo...Center_bombing
    Because they did it before. Ramzi Yousef was a BLOOD relative to major al-Qaeda leaders.

    Also to point out many people were expecting he would do something like this, like ORHA member Colonel Paul Hughes, who said the first thing that popped into his mind was that Bin Laden was at fault. Paul Hughes was fucked over in Iraq by the Bush administration and maintained an anti-war stance.

    and the evidence literally fell into the FBI’s lap.
    I will admit, this was a very weird, but this is such a small thing, that it doesn't really matter - staged or not. This solidifies something they already knew.

    But for some reason a bunch of crazy conspiracy theorists demanded an investigation into the greatest attack on American soil in history.
    Investigation began the second the plane hit the first building. Which is what that intelligence finding above came from.

    The investigation was delayed
    By a week. Which isn't really compelling. It takes more than a week to clean up your involvement in something like this. They were just being difficult.

    underfunded
    This is TWO YEARS LATER that budget concerns came up. and the budget concerns aren't as dire as you'd think.

    set up to fail
    This is more of an expression they both used amongst themselves. Do you know how many investigations are like this? A fuck load.

    a conflict of interest
    This doesn't prove or disprove anything.

    and a cover up from start to finish.
    Oh yeah, totally fucking unbiased. (From a source that both doesn't work any more and is just opinionated.

    It was based on testimony extracted through torture, the records of which were destroyed.
    I'm not doubting the illegitimacy of torture, as it's wrong, but this is exceptionally contradictory to the idea that the US did 9/11. First of all, what the fuck is KSM doing there if he's innocent? Why did KSM say he only gave false information during 'brutal periods' of torture and not the interrogations where he admitted to being a part of it? And if the entire thing is a cover-up what does him saying he lied matter, lied about what, a false plot?

    It failed to mention the existence of WTC7
    Because there is absolutely no reason to? They didn't mention any of the other buildings either. It isn't pivotal to the investigation. He said it himself, they were under budget and with time constraints. Why investigate bullshit?

    The only reason people want WTC7 investigated is because they're too stupid to understand basic physics.

    Able Danger
    There was no need to. It was a security preparation plan.

    Ptech
    He sources himself and what you mention about Ptech? It's like sourcing Lockheed Martin in an essay about why the concept of war is bad. Ptech is mostly just another conspiracy tool that really has no merit.

    Sibel Edmonds
    Because it was almost a year after they started, maybe. And Sibel Edmonds can't be considered that credible. I'll be honest, they should have, but the fact they didn't doesn't prove the government did 9/11.

    Osama Bin Laden
    Fuck it, here's a quote from the commission report:
    "Al Qaeda and Usama Bin Ladin obtained money from a variety of sources-"
    There, he's mentioned.

    CIA
    Uh, the CIA were sourced a lot in the report. So yeah they were 'mentioned'.

    Also the source is ridiculous and vague.

    the drills of hijacked aircraft being flown into buildings that were being simulated at the precise same time that those events were actually happening.
    The STATE government came out with this as they considered it a coincidence. Now the STATE agency who did this, had a very different style of doing it. The only coincidence is the concept and day. "Officials at the Chantilly, Va.-based National Reconnaissance Office had scheduled an exercise that morning in which a small corporate jet would crash into one of the four towers at the agency's headquarters building after experiencing a mechanical failure."

    By the way, did I mention it was the STATE government who did this? Not the FEDERAL government.

    It was lied to by the Pentagon
    Suspected of, nothing was ever proven. This guy didn't read the sources

    the CIA
    Suspected.

    the Bush Administration
    Also suspected. Nothing concrete.

    and as for Bush and Cheney…well, no one knows what they told it because they testified in secret, off the record, not under oath and behind closed doors.
    I really don't see how testifying in secret would prove anything. As if they exposed absolutely EVERYTHING. I mean, there's this thing called lying you can do. I mean you people say they do it all the time, why not now? Oh I know why because it's convenient and sounds ~spooky~ and ~shady~

    And honestly, if you just killed 3000 of your own people, lying under oath is the LEAST of your worries.

    It didn’t bother to look at who funded the attacks because that question is of “little practical significance“.
    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/ukne...-Midlands.html Oh what do you know they actually found them

    And for the record it does matter. If you can't find the person who DID it, what's the use finding the people who funded it. This is an investigation, not an intelligence operation, if you want to get to them, you look through the ones who funded it. You want to investigate, you determine your assets.

    Oh and here's the above quote from the commission: "Al Qaeda and Usama Bin Ladin obtained money from a variety of sources-"

    Still, the 9/11 Commission did brilliantly, answering all of the questions the public had (except most of the victims’ family members’ questions)
    Looking through the cited charge, being unsatisfied in this type of case is not surprising. What is surprising is for being such smoking gun evidence that the government did 9/11, a good portion of those questions are adequate or satisfactory

    and pinned blame on all the people responsible (although no one so much as lost their job)
    This kinda makes no sense.

    determining the attacks were “a failure of imagination” because “I don’t think anyone could envision flying airplanes into buildings ” except the Pentagon and FEMA and NORAD and the NRO.
    NORAD and FEMA are pretty much the only ones who did this. NRO was something different.

    Hell, even Bush had no idea NORAD was doing this. So yeah, it is a failure of imagination. There's a difference between threats like bank robbery which is likely and therefore prepared for, and things like using planes as weapons - which is unlikely and unprepared fore albeit someone had thought of it in some facet of the government, which again does not prove anything.

    The DIA destroyed 2.5 TB of data on Able Danger, but that’s OK because it probably wasn’t important.
    Uh yeah, it wasn't important. Why is this guy so fixated on AD, it's an exercise.

    The SEC destroyed their records on the investigation into the insider trading before the attacks, but that’s OK because destroying the records of the largest investigation in SEC history is just part of routine record keeping.
    Insider trading literally has nothing to do with this. You see, this guy is now encroaching on territory that pretty much is trying to figure out why 9/11 was staged and he's going in several different directions.

    I don't agree or know why the records were destroyed (or even if they were) but in hindsight, truly it doesn't matter. Insider trading and Able Danger don't have any bearing on why 9/11 happened. This guy is only mentioning it because it's shady. The government could have destroyed evidence of a senator cheating on his wife and this guy probably would go "If the government didn't do 911 then why did they destroy evidence that senator assfuck cheated on his wife? answer that. checkmate sheppel!"


    NIST has classified the data that they used for their model of WTC7′s collapse, but that’s OK because knowing how they made their model of that collapse would “jeopardize public safety“.
    There are literally hundreds of bits of information in detailed accuracy that you can pretty much figure it out yourself if you just did the fucking research.

    And for the record, it would be against public safety. Telling people in detail how to take down a building is not a good idea. All for the sake of filler and satisfying nutcases.

    The FBI has argued that all material related to their investigation of 9/11 should be kept secret from the public, but that’s OK because the FBI probably has nothing to hide.
    If Corbett is surprised the FBI is withholding investigation information, then maybe he should start reading up on how the FBI operates.

    Releasing all your evidence and investigation progress is a stupid idea.

    This man never existed, nor is anything he had to say worthy of your attention, and if you say otherwise you are a paranoid conspiracy theorist and deserve to be shunned by all of humanity. Likewise him, him, him, and her. (and her and her and him).
    Barry Jennings said he felt an explosion. He didn't witness it, he didn't have any information that said it happened. He just said he felt/heard it.

    That is really bad evidence when you're dealing with a massively chaotic situation like 9/11. WTC plaza wasn't exactly a quiet and serene morning. Lots of people heard lots of things, and for good reason - it was LOUD.

    And the fact these people are now saying Jennings was murdered because of what he knew (7 years after saying it), are assholes.

    As for the rest, it goes without saying that just simply saying "I saw Bush do it himself" doesn't mean it's fact. You need to prove it.

    Osama Bin Laden lived in a cave fortress in the hills of Afghanistan, but somehow got away.
    Uh this isn't really a crazy concept.

    Then he was hiding out in Tora Bora but somehow got away.
    We in the business of logic call that "running away" or "Escaping"

    Then he lived in Abottabad for years, taunting the most comprehensive intelligence dragnet employing the most sophisticated technology in the history of the world for 10 years releasing video after video with complete impunity
    How much information can you possibly get about a video? Unless there's some little marker on the video footage that says "Hi I'm here L:XXXX L:XXXX" then it's just bullshit fearmongering.

    (and getting younger and younger as he did so)
    There is literally zero evidence for this.

    And if you look at his videos you'd see that's kinda not true. How the hell someone can judge a person getting younger without it being painfully obvious which you'd think they'd see that, is beyond me.

    May I also point out, a lot of videos weren't released in chronological order:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L06lMsF4LJQ
    They were released in bulk.

    before finally being found in a daring SEAL team raid which wasn’t recorded on video
    Good god, I wonder why. Maybe it's because it's a fucking special operation, the biggest in American history. One they don't want all over youtube?

    in which he didn’t resist or use his wife as a human shield, and in which these crack special forces operatives panicked and killed this unarmed man, supposedly the best source of intelligence about those dastardly terrorists on the planet. Then they dumped his body in the ocean before telling anyone about it.
    I won't doubt the raid was a little spotty, I'm sure he was killed out of revenge and it was a messy operation. But none of that proves that 9/11 was a coverup.

    Then a couple dozen of that team’s members died in a helicopter crash in Afghanistan.
    Huh, the government sure sucks at covering things up.

    Oh and actually killing their target:
    "We don't believe that any of the special operators who were killed were involved in the bin Laden operation," a senior U.S. military official told Fox News."

    Yeah so they coverupped Bin Laden's killing by not actually removing the people involved. That is incredible work.


    This is the story of 9/11, brought to you by the media which told you the hard truths about JFK and incubator babies and mobile production facilities and the rescue of Jessica Lynch.
    This is the story of 9/11, brought to you by Corbett Report, which told you the truth about the NWO and RFK. (Which involved SPACE ALIENS)

    You know what this guy does? He takes the SMALLEST inconsistency and concept that he finds strange or doesn't make sense in his tiny tiny mind, and treats it as smoking gun evidence that the government did 9/11.

    If you have any questions about this story…you are a batshit, paranoid, tinfoil, dog-abusing baby-hater and will be reviled by everyone. If you love your country and/or freedom, happiness, rainbows, rock and roll, puppy dogs, apple pie and your grandma, you will never ever express doubts about any part of this story to anyone. Ever.
    I'll take batshit, paranoid and tinfoil, the rest is persecution bullshit and this guy is whining that his insane and misguided views are somehow considered weird. What a fucking douchebag. Fuck this guy and fuck you Lotus for exposing this awful excuse of a human being to me.

    This has been a public service announcement by: the Friends of the FBI, CIA, NSA, DIA, SEC, MSM, White House, NIST, and the 9/11 Commission. Because Ignorance is Strength.
    This has been a PSA by your friendly neighbourhood anti-conspiracy theorist.

    Because when you ignore the facts, things seem to fit your paranoid delusions.

    And all the people who rated "winner" on OP, You all should be REALLY ashamed of yourselves. Do some god damn research.

    Edited:

    Okay fair enough. But they had plenty of time to figure out there was a huge problem. Especially with passengers calling in a hijacking as it was happening.

    I'm sorry but I still feel like this was an inside job just so the American Government can have an excuse to have their way with Iraq.
    Got any evidence for that other then "I feel like it is"?
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  2. Post #202
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    Okay fair enough. But they had plenty of time to figure out there was a huge problem. Especially with passengers calling in a hijacking as it was happening.

    I'm sorry but I still feel like this was an inside job just so the American Government can have an excuse to have their way with Iraq.
    All of NORADs radar was covering the approaches to US not the interior, thus the military could not reliably track aircraft over CONTUS on such short notice.

    Wow. Governor Goblin, is that what you spent your Monday doing?

  3. Post #203
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    911 Conspiracy Thread V.31 - Where We Barely Grasp What 'Freefall' Speed is or What it Even Means
    911 Conspiracy Thread V.32 - Bickering Aimlessly In the Wind
    or
    - "We like to think we know what we're talking about as we take an entrenched stance about our vague idea of the issue while assaulting others who don't think similarly."



    The fact that both sides are so dismissal of one another is basically pushing this into tween-tier style debate. It's hilarious.

  4. Post #204
    The Union Jack would look a shit ton better with a Hammer and Sickle in the middle of it
    Bobie's Avatar
    November 2007
    7,291 Posts
    911 Conspiracy Thread V.32 - Bickering Aimlessly In the Wind
    or
    - "We like to think we know what we're talking about as we take an entrenched stance about our vague idea of the issue while assaulting others who don't think similarly."



    The fact that both sides are so dismissal of one another is basically pushing this into tween-tier style debate. It's hilarious.
    ill rate you dumb if i dont agree with you man, back off

  5. Post #205
    hyper-articulate
    Roll_Program's Avatar
    October 2007
    12,689 Posts
    Just watched the video.

    If it was a done by the government, why leave all these easily avoidable and massive holes?
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  6. Post #206
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    I like how it first doubts the imediate connection of the attacks and Osama and then call him the best source for information about the attacks.

    I like how it doubt's he could stay in contact with widely available technology(especially for a rich mofo like him) and then wonder how sophisticated intelligence systems couldn't find him for years(and it's pretty much clear that some guys in Pakistans government helped Osama).

  7. Post #207
    GenPol's Avatar
    June 2012
    546 Posts
    Fuck, why does the OP have more winner ratings than dumb ratings? I can't believe that Facepunch is full of delusional 9/11 conspiracy theorists.
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  8. Post #208
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    1. The footage that was shown and the breakdown step by step analysis of David Chandler little course of physics really shows in way that everyone can understand, that the building might have fallen in free fall speed. Now I don't know if the video is perhaps speeded up due to the recording process but then again the NIST probably had to rely on the same video to create their report.
    David Chandler is a chemist who basically said the building fell fast. He didn't show any sort of structural or architectural reasons, only just saying the velocity was fast. He didn't even pin it against other forms of demolition.

    2. It is possible for a building to collapse in several ways I am sure, but it's that it fell straight down. Just visually it seems more sane for me to believe a demolition occurred rather than a rare collapse process.
    You saw the video posted before, the top floor fell, taking down the entire innards. WTC7 had only three supports that carried loads between them. One was gutted by debris, the other two were weakened by a day of constant fire all built on a faulty architectural design.

    When the guts collapsed, there is nothing holding the building shell - and that collapsed too.

    WTC7 was known as a gradual collapse. Same thing happened to that huge office building in Germany, I forget what it's called. Only reason it didn't collapse was because it had a far better support system and it didn't receive massive damage. but the way it fell was exactly the same.

    Remember the fires I just mentioned that were burning for most of the day?


    3. They must have been really sneaky!

    4. I don't know.
    Well those are very important questions so get back to reality when you have an answer.

    5. There are some 'unofficial reports' of people finding explosive residue near the remains. Cannot be proven though. But there are several witness reports that have been recorded by various different reporters that have heard several explosions in a row that would suggest that there might have been a demolition.
    Unless you can show me where, then I'm calling bullshit.

    also hearing and feeling explosions isn't evidence, especially in a chaotic situation. It's like saying you heard a gunshot at a fireworks show.

    6. No clue. Different type of explosives perhaps? Fire resistant wiring!
    Oh good god.

    Edited:

    Wow. Governor Goblin, is that what you spent your Monday doing?
    Please don't remind me.
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  9. Post #209
    so that post by governor goblin basically destroyed this video utterly
    impressive
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  10. Post #210
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    -snip- I should read the thread first
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  11. Post #211
    I watched a stream of a video game so that means I'm an authority on it!
    HoodedSniper's Avatar
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    If it wasnt done by the American Government then how do you explain the planes being in America?

    Me:1

    Sheeple:0

    Wake up.
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  12. Post #212
    Governor Goblin's Avatar
    December 2011
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    so that post by governor goblin basically destroyed this video utterly
    impressive
    Waste of a Monday, but I think I got my point across.

    Really I only did it because Lotus was taunting me.

    Edited:

    The thing that gets me is the hard fact about the 3 towers that went down with 2 planes
    It's not a hard fact my darling trumple.

    Two planes took down two towers, and those two towers took out a good 10 buildings. One of which was WTC7
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  13. Post #213
    GenPol's Avatar
    June 2012
    546 Posts
    Please help giving dumb ratings to the OP. He needs far more, so that the thread wouldn't have a 'winner' list in the thread list.
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  14. Post #214
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    June 2009
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    which is why there are a bunch of other bills that are popping up that basically do the same shit sopa was going to do.
    yeah 11 years after 9/11 and the us government is being pressured by the entertainment industry to crack down on piracy

    OPEN YOUR EYES SHEEPLE

    SOPA IS PROOF 9/11 WAS AN INSIDE JOB
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  15. Post #215
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    Okay fair enough. But they had plenty of time to figure out there was a huge problem. Especially with passengers calling in a hijacking as it was happening.
    Except they didn't have time at all. The first jets sent to intercept Flight 11, the first to hit the world trade center, weren't alerted until 12 minutes before impact, and were weren't airborne until less than a minute before impact, still in Massachusetts, and weren't even aware of the subsequent hijackings until it was too late. By the time the jets were in Manhattan airspace, the third plane was about to hit the pentagon. Flight 93 was the only flight where there was enough time to intercept the plane, because it took off 40 minutes late due to runway congestion, although it ended up not being necessary to intercept the plane.

  16. Post #216
    l l
    lmao
    Dennab
    December 2011
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    the amount of sarcasm in the OP's video is horrendous
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    It's no where said if a plane goes missing for an hour that you need to prepare to shoot it down. Planes aren't always 100% on radar, they do eventually go out of site, and you attempt to contact them. Of course they start to worry, but do you think they fucking EXPECTED this kind of thing happening? It's not far fetched for control to lose track of planes for small periods of time.
    Also none of the planes were airborne for more than an hour after being hijacked. The "over an hour" bit is a complete lie.

    Flight 11: Hijacked 8:14, Crashed 8:46
    Flight 175:Hijacked 8:42-8:46, Crashed 9:03
    Flight 77: Hijacked 8:54, Crashed 9:37
    Flight 93: Hijacked 9:28, Crashed 10:03
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  18. Post #218
    I wish I was as cool as Felix :)
    Apache249's Avatar
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    Governor Goblin you just saved us from having to do a lot of work. Thanks.
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  19. Post #219
    I don't get why people are still arguing over this issue its done and done


    ITS 2012 WE HAVE BETTER CONSPIRACY TO GO ON ABOUT

    Like the end of the world and etc

  20. Post #220

    May 2012
    110 Posts
    9/11 conspiracy theorists are very good at deciphering the tiny details about the event itself. What they fail to do time and time again is find a reasonable motive for why the US government would have committed the attacks.
    Perhaps the US government made it appear that way on purpose?



    How to cover up ur secrets 101

  21. Post #221
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    Dennab
    June 2009
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    Perhaps the US government made it appear that way on purpose?
    not sure if you're being sarcastic or not but that seems like exactly the kind of thing delusional conspiracy theorists would say

  22. Post #222
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    August 2006
    1,003 Posts
    Has anyone seen this video before?


    It's basically a 90 minute video of a former CIA Asset (one who was in charge of sending and receiving messages between the United States and Iraq or any other country) who basically shares her side of the story of what she saw and experienced during the time of 9/11. I wouldn't say she knows the truth, she only tells her side of the story through her own eyes, so none of it is conspiracy related bullshit, she just explains her story. I don't doubt anything she says though. Apparently she's waited 10 years to say this due to legal troubles and all that.

    She starts talking at around 7:00 if you're going to watch it.

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    May 2012
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    not sure if you're being sarcastic or not but that seems like exactly the kind of thing delusional conspiracy theorists would say
    Actually it sounds like you are just not very tactical or intellectually deficient to be (sadly) honest

    - but that's my opinion.

    If I were hell-bent on covering something up, the first thing I would do is throw off whoever was trying to bust me. In this case, the gullible American public.

  24. Post #224
    I wish I was as cool as Felix :)
    Apache249's Avatar
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    Actually it sounds like you are just not very tactical or intellectually deficient to be (sadly) honest

    - but that's my opinion.

    If I were hell-bent on covering something up, the first thing I would do is throw off whoever was trying to bust me. In this case, the gullible American public.
    He's not tactical, eh? Too bad...

    Edited:

    at least he isn't intellectually deficient.

  25. Post #225
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    Dennab
    June 2009
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    Actually it sounds like you are just not very tactical or intellectually deficient to be (sadly) honest

    - but that's my opinion.

    If I were hell-bent on covering something up, the first thing I would do is throw off whoever was trying to bust me. In this case, the gullible American public.
    don't forget the tens of thousands of co-conspirators liable to leak information

  26. Post #226
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    jews did 911
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  27. Post #227
    Disregard Flagdog I'm British
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    jews did 911
    Actually it was the Belgians.

  28. Post #228
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    This thread is just endlessly entertaining to read.
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    Actually it was the Belgians.
    It was obviously done by crazy Australians

  30. Post #230
    Disregard Flagdog I'm British
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    It was obviously done by crazy Australians
    Naa, it was one Belgian businessman who wanted to cause a recession by destroying the WTC, thereby crippling trade for a short period of time. However, the US government then extended the life of the economy because of 9/11, and that's why the most recent recession hit harder than it should have. The Belgian wanted to cause a recession so it would devalue the Euro, so then he could easily buy up all the businesses he wanted with all the gold he has. However, the Belgian died in late 2010, and all the information was passed on to his long lost son, Barack Obama, so then Barack knew that he had to strike on Osama who was no longer under the hidden protection of the Belgian businessman.

  31. Post #231
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    Guys guys, I know how we can solve this. Just check the Mayan calender!

  32. Post #232
    I ROLL THE NICKELS
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    jews did 911
    This is actually one of the leading theories on a lot of Truther websites.

    Along with the bigotry that goes with it.

  33. Post #233
    Dennab
    October 2010
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    It was obviously done by crazy Australians
    It's always the one you suspect the least.

    Finland.
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    I like how a lot of people think that "Yeah, there's a couple of things that just seem out of place I guess" = "OMG GOVERNMENT DID IT, ALL LIES TO CONTROL US, POLICE STATE".

    Edit: nevermind, it was Finland.

  35. Post #235
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    February 2006
    1,234 Posts
    It was me. I funded Osama.

  36. Post #236
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    Dennab
    October 2008
    1,912 Posts
    tl;dr

    no one here knows what happened because the fascist police state won't tell us

    you don't know, you'll never know. Deal with it

    Edited:

    get back to work, civilian
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  37. Post #237
    9/11 conspirators here? wow, I didn't realize how many people here are gullible. The whole idea that the U.S is behind 9/11 is fucking laughable.
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  38. Post #238
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    Dennab
    October 2008
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    9/11 conspirators here? wow, I didn't realize how many people here are gullible. The whole idea that the U.S is behind 9/11 is fucking laughable.
    Yes, I can see you have it all figured out, because you're providing so many answers.
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  39. Post #239
    I wish I was as cool as Felix :)
    Apache249's Avatar
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    Yes, I can see you have it all figured out, because you're providing so many answers.
    Read Governor Goblin's post at the top of this page.

  40. Post #240
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    Dennab
    October 2008
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    Read Governor Goblin's post at the top of this page.
    What about it?
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