[Garik]

econometrics posted:

To be honest, a lot of anti-religion images on Reddit are pretty well-made.



This one is perfect.

I think it looks like shit.

[voodooattack]

econometrics posted:

You're right, I am a radical atheist. I seek to be as radical as the reality itself.

No, you're a bigot who can't understand how other people may have different opinions and cultures.

You can't understand or fathom a religious yet enlightened person with valid opinions and ideas, you can't tolerate this concept.

And as I said in mass debate:

voodooattack posted:

Why not go after China and how they treat their citizens like meat-bags and pull Tienanmens every day? There you go, a modern example. But wait a moment.. aren't most (or all) of their leaders atheists?

[POLOPOZOZO]

Aren't like huge portions of the Chinese population hilariously superstitious?

[Zillamaster55]

econometrics posted:

To be honest, a lot of anti-religion images on Reddit are pretty well-made.



This one is perfect.

Aren't you a champion of fair treatment and respect

[voodooattack]

POLOPOZOZO posted:

Aren't like huge portions of the Chinese population hilariously superstitious?

Those are the farmers and labourers; around 14% of China are atheists.

[RaxaHax]

voodooattack posted:

Why not go after China and how they treat their citizens like meat-bags and pull Tienanmens every day? There you go, a modern example. But wait a moment.. aren't most (or all) of their leaders atheists?

But do they do those things because they're atheists? Does their non-religion tell them to treat people like shit? There's no atheist dogma that would command such a thing.

A leader's religion would matter if they claimed it was their god's will to exterminate another religion/culture/race from their country through means of genocide.

But having no belief in general doesn't commonly make people do evil things.

[yawmwen]

voodooattack posted:

No, you're a bigot that can't understand how other people may have different opinions and cultures.

You can't understand or fathom a religious yet enlightened person with valid opinions and ideas, you can't tolerate that this concept.

And as I said in mass debate:

"Can't we all just get along? Everyone is entitled to their beliefs and opinions."

No, everyone is not entitled to their beliefs and opinions. I will criticize a fundamentalist with no remorse. The whole point of free speech is to criticize each others opinions and beliefs.

[TonyP]

voodooattack posted:

No, you're a bigot who can't understand how other people may have different opinions and cultures.

You can't understand or fathom a religious yet enlightened person with valid opinions and ideas, you can't tolerate this concept.

And as I said in mass debate:

I don't care about about your opinion, I don't care about what you believe, I don't care about your culture, I care about what's true, I care about the science, and if science contradicts your beliefs, that's too damn bad for you.

Confirmed stupids:
N-12_Aden
voodooattack
UnknownDude
Zillamaster55

(User was banned for this post ("Extended" - Craptasket))

[POLOPOZOZO]

voodooattack posted:

Those are the farmers and labourers; around 14% of China are atheists.

mmm pretty sure the guys who confused a fleshlight for a mystical mushroom were living in an apartment complex in an urban area?

But still, that number isn't even much higher than the US so I'm not sure why you would correlate atheism with oppressive government in the first place. I'm not really sure what you are advocating but if it's respecting religion instead of just tolerating it that's just silly.

[voodooattack]

RaxaHax posted:

But do they do those things because they're atheists?

A leader's religion would matter if they claimed it was their god's will to exterminate another religion/culture/race from their country through means of genocide.

But no belief in general doesn't commonly make people do evil things.

Oh, so you believe that it's atrocious if China's leaders were to murder people in the name of religion; but it's all fine if they do it for fun and/or corruption?

[POLOPOZOZO]

voodooattack posted:

Oh, so you believe that it's atrocious if China's leaders were to murder people in the name of religion; but it's all fine if they do it for fun and/or corruption?

I must be pretty ignorant of what is going on in China but I'm pretty sure religious persecution isn't as bad as you say it is, there are like 10 million Hui Muslims in China.

[yawmwen]

voodooattack posted:

Oh, so you believe that it's atrocious if China's leaders were to murder people in the name of religion; but it's all fine if they do it for fun and/or corruption?

Yea, just like you are fine with someone murdering in the name of God but not if they do it for atheist reasons.

[voodooattack]

yawmwen posted:

Yea, just like you are fine with someone murdering in the name of God but not if they do it for atheist reasons.

So, how many reasons do you think exist for "murder in the name of god"?

Edited:

POLOPOZOZO posted:

I must be pretty ignorant of what is going on in China but I'm pretty sure religious persecution isn't as bad as you say it is, there are like 10 million Hui Muslims in China.

Yes, they are oppressed and try to revolt but are always silenced with executions, but I wasn't talking about Muslims in China, I'm talking about all human beings in China.

[yawmwen]

voodooattack posted:

So, how many reasons do you think exist for "murder in the name of god"?

I can't comprehend this.

If you murder in the name of god, you murder in the name of god. You don't need any other reason.

[RaxaHax]

voodooattack posted:

Oh, so you believe that it's atrocious if China's leaders were to murder people in the name of religion; but it's all fine if they do it for fun and/or corruption?

I don't recall implying oppression and atrocities were okay, religion inspired or not. But okay.

[voodooattack]

yawmwen posted:

I can't comprehend this.

If you murder in the name of god, you murder in the name of god. You don't need any other reason.

The only reasons for executions in my country are charges of murder, rape, and treason. I think that applies to most Muslim countries as well.

"Murdering in the name of god" (or any thing else) would cost you your life in a court of law.

[POLOPOZOZO]

voodooattack posted:

I think that applies to most Muslim countries as well.

Well you could be gay

Iran would hang you from a crane. Also is the person sentenced to death from rape the man or the woman. Or if it is two men are they both sentenced to death?

[voodooattack]

RaxaHax posted:

I don't recall implying oppression and atrocities were okay, religion inspired or not. But okay.

A leader's religion would matter if they claimed it was their god's will to exterminate another religion/culture/race from their country through means of genocide.

Am I interpreting this wrong? You say it only matters if the leader claims that a god told them to, ergo it wouldn't matter otherwise. Or did I get this wrong?

[Benata]

Atheism is bullshit, reddit is bullshit, memes are bullshit.

They make a good triangle.
Also r/atheism(or whatever that is) has an attention span of zero.
I don't think they will accomplish anything but mockery on their own.

[voodooattack]

POLOPOZOZO posted:

Well you could be gay

Iran would hang you from a crane. Also is the person sentenced to death from rape the man or the woman. Or if it is two men are they both sentenced to death?

Gays are only prosecuted if they encourage it publicly. And I don't live in Iran and don't follow their creed, Shi'ite. (Huge difference by the way)

If the rapist was a man (or a group), they're sentenced to death. If the rapist was a woman (which is unlikely) she'd probably go to prison. (If that's reported of course )

[RaxaHax]

voodooattack posted:

Am I interpreting this wrong? You say it only matters if the leader claims that a god told them to, ergo it wouldn't matter otherwise. Or did I get this wrong?

Yes. Religion matters if the person is going to use said religion to persecute, oppress, and murder people of other cultures. I didn't say it only matters in that quote, but Obama being a Christian wouldn't really matter for his position, unless he started exiling all other 'unbelievers' from the country.

[POLOPOZOZO]

voodooattack posted:

Gays are only prosecuted if they encourage it publicly. And I don't live in Iran and don't follow their creed, Shi'ite. (Huge difference by the way)

If the rapist was a man (or a group), they're sentenced to death. If the rapist was a woman (which is unlikely) she'd probably go to prison. (If that's reported of course )

No I mean if it is a man raping a man

[voodooattack]

RaxaHax posted:

Yes. Religion matters if the person is going to use said religion to persecute, oppress, and murder people of other cultures. I didn't say it only matters in that quote, but Obama being a Christian wouldn't really matter for his position, unless he started exiling all other 'unbelievers' from the country.

WTF? Who said we murder people because they follow another religion? I have Christian friends here and you couldn't tell which is Muslim and which is not when we go out.

Fucking FOX ruining my day all along.

Edited:

POLOPOZOZO posted:

No I mean if it is a man raping a man

Oh, the rapist gets a death sentence, too bad there isn't a sufficient punishment for whoever does that.

[TonyP]

RaxaHax posted:

Yes. Religion matters if the person is going to use said religion to persecute, oppress, and murder people of other cultures. I didn't say it only matters in that quote, but Obama being a Christian wouldn't really matter for his position, unless he started exiling all other 'unbelievers' from the country.

I wouldn't be surprised if Obama, and hell most of the people working with him were atheists, and simply claimed to be christian because well you need to if you want to be elected.

[Falchion]

all debates about religion on FP turn out to be awful.

[Numidium]

I think this as stupid as anyone else, but that picture in the OP made me laugh.

[UnknownDude]

TonyP posted:

I don't care about about your opinion, I don't care about what you believe, I don't care about your culture, I care about what's true, I care about the science, and if science contradicts your beliefs, that's too damn bad for you.

You are no better than radical theists who tries to shove their religion on you.

[yawmwen]

voodooattack posted:

WTF? Who said we murder people because they follow another religion? I have Christian friends here and you couldn't tell which is Muslim and which is not when we go out. Fucking FOX ruining my day all along.

No one is saying every muslim murders people because they follow another religion. However, for you to say it doesn't happen at all is ignorant, because it does. It happens with christians as well.

[znk666]

Jad Hinto posted:

Religion isn't the reason, it's a tool. You could kill someone with something like a socket wrench, but getting rid of all wrenches isn't the answer. It's just telling people not to use that tool for shit like that.

Well,it's not like the manual for my wrench explicitly told me to stone people to death and oppress them and be a misogynistic cunt.

As Christopher Hitchens said:
Religion poisons everything.

[voodooattack]

yawmwen posted:

No one is saying every muslim murders people because they follow another religion. However, for you to say it doesn't happen at all is ignorant, because it does. It happens with christians as well.

If it happens it gets dealt with like any other murder, laws exist for a reason.

[yawmwen]

znk666 posted:

Well,it's not like the manual for my wrench explicitly told me to stone people to death and oppress them and be a misogynistic cunt.

When your supposed holy book glorifies and commands persecution and murder, you can't be surprised when assholes actually try to carry it out.

[Turnips5]

UnknownDude posted:

You are no better than radical theists who tries to shove their religion on you.

unless this guy has actually killed someone in the name of non belief, I don't think that's a fair comparison

[yawmwen]

voodooattack posted:

If it happens it gets dealt with like any other murder, laws exist for a reason.

I'm attacking the religious laws and murders themselves. If Egypt runs themselves in a secularized manner, that it totally fine. The United States has mostly christians, but runs themselves relatively secular, and that is acceptable. I'm not interested in the average muslim who practices their religion in peace. I am interested in the radical muslims who use their scripture to impose unfair laws on people via Sharia or Wahhabi.

[Untouch]

Holy fucking shit /r/atheism is fucking stupid.
Like what the fuck how can one group of idiots be this stupid.

[TonyP]

How are they stupid for mocking and ridiculing religion?

Rude, crude, or crass, sure, but stupid?

[Zillamaster55]

TonyP posted:

Confirmed to be stupid:
Zillamaster55

I'm sorry I offended you by putting a group of pixels in the shape of a box on your post.

[TonyP]

You didn't offend me, you just spread your stupidity. Do you seriously think that post was dumb? If so, you've no hope. Not even the best professor in the world will be able to cure you of your stupidity.

I just wanted to make sure the names of the dumb voters would be easily visible to anybody who happened to read the post so we can know which posts to disregard.

(User was banned for this post ("Trolling" - Craptasket))

[Ownederd]

TonyP posted:

Confirmed to be stupid:
Zillamaster55

lol dude you non-ironically disagreed with a post that says that this is disgusting (oh, i don't know, because it is and it's fucking stupid because it's composed of unfunny nerds?)

you shouldn't shift your weight around and call people dumb for whatever illogical reason you pull out of your ass

edit:

TonyP posted:

You didn't offend me, you just spread your stupidity. Do you seriously think that post was dumb? If so, you've no hope. Not even the best professor in the world will be able to cure you of your stupidity.

just stop dude you're acting like a tool who thinks you're clever

[voodooattack]

yawmwen posted:

I'm attacking the religious laws and murders themselves. If Egypt runs themselves in a secularized manner, that it totally fine. The United States has mostly christians, but runs themselves relatively secular, and that is acceptable. I'm not interested in the average muslim who practices their religion in peace. I am interested in the radical muslims who use their scripture to impose unfair laws on people via Sharia or Wahhabi.

I have a problem with that too. Most religions have a variety of them, but to judge all religion(s) based on the acts of a minority is just wrong.

[TonyP]

Ownederd posted:

lol dude you non-ironically disagreed with a post that says that this is disgusting (oh, i don't know, it is and it's fucking stupid because it's composed of unfunny nerds?)

you shouldn't shift your weight around and call people dumb for whatever illogical reason you pull out of your ass

edit:



just stop dude you're acting like a tool who think he's clever

What the hell are you even talking about?