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Uh, yeah, basically something completely different.
The fullscreen Start Screen completely and utterly destroys any workflow I may have, it's like getting a fullscreen ad thrown at you during a game or a friend pressing the "start" button during a COOP game. I'll be navigating a one line vertical bar on the left side of my screen still capable of watching any media I might be running simultaneously or keep track of my game should I be standing in a unsafe area. I also only have to look at the left side portion of my screen rather than looking around all over my screen, the standard Start Menu keeps things focused, the fullscreen Metro UI Screen is all over the place (I know you can organize things, but the argument still applies since you still will end up having programs on different parts of your screen, some you even have to horizontally scroll to the next page to reach.
The Start Menu keeps things quick and efficient (if you're digging down in the folders menu then it's faster to search for it, which means the reason you're digging is because you don't remember the name of the program in which case it's probably new as well and highlighted which is easy to find when you have dozens of folders in a small space). The Start Screen is all over the place and inefficient and breaks any workflow or immersion/focus you may have.
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I wouldn't mind losing the start button. I just pin firefox, steam, and my 4 non steam games to the taskbar. Plus when I need the start menu I just punch the windows key. However I don't see myself upgrading my OS in the near future if I could skate by on XP for all this time. W7 feels perfect.
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Wait, so how the fuck are people going to turn off their computers now?
Pressing the power button on the tower/button isn't really that safe y'know.
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Move your mouse to the right edge of your screen. There is the control panel and power options amongst others.
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I think they're trying to get me to buy a new keyboard. I don't have a meta or context key.
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Not a legitimate concern anymore, not since Vista at least.
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I use the start key everyday, I only have around 7 programs pinned on my taskbar and my other ones I use are easily accessible in the startmenu. Microsoft are fucking terrible when it comes to listening to consumers
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They listen to their consumers who use their smartphones and tablets more than their desktops. The former is trendier, so they pay more attention because current fads make money.
Actually it's less listening to consumers and more pushing their products onto consumers.
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i am facepuncher i cant read past thread title please help i am only 2 years old
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Maybe somebody should edit the article out of the OP and replace it with a link to Basic Reading Comprehension
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I used it less than a minute ago, hell I could have everything pinned but that juts clutters my task bar. I only have 6 pinned programs.
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I heard everybody talking abut metro ui thinking "Meh, it doesn't sound THAT bad.."
I just watched a video, looks like I'm not buying windows 8.
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If you have multiple monitors, I'm fairly sure the desktop goes on one monitor and the start screen goes on the other, allowing you to continue watching movies/youtube/whatever on one screen while the start menu opens into whatever full screen metro app you're opening. As far as I know there's plenty of things you can do to keep the fullscreen start screen from interfering with multi-tasking, and you can still search by typing on it. Have you tried the preview by the way? I was way more freaked out about windows 8 until I tried it, and it honestly didn't bother me at all despite having similar concerns to what you seem to have.
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I found the start button in case you still don't believe it exists.
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I have multiple monitors but the start screen takes your main monitor which is where I first and foremost have my work. On my left monitor I have Facepunch for the most part. And it doesn't matter, what matters is that the whole screen is fully covered and I have to look all over my screen to find my shit and in a worst case scenario I would even have to horizontally scroll to find it in a jungle of relatively big icons. It slows me down and breaks any workflow and immersion. Also in most cases where I go to the start menu to pop open a program it is because I am working on something and I have to turn on another program (f.ex making a GIF where I have to use Bridge, Virtualdub and Photoshop) where I want all the windows on the same screen, having to pause that shit with a fullscreen menu to open up the program I need would just make it all feel so sluggish.
The best way I can describe the difference is that with the Start Menu you can see the programs pop up on your screen without any interruptions at all whereas with the Start Screen you get interrupted by the Start Screen, then the Start Screen closes and then your program starts up.
I have used the Developer Preview, but not the Consumer Preview. I think Windows 8 is better in every way except for the Metro UI Start Screen. It's not the end of the world, but it is major enough to end up with me potentially not staying with Windows 8 in the long run.
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I noticed you can pin either a half port or quarter portion of the screen to be something else, can that not be the start screen? Other than that, you can make both monitors the desktop and pin apps to the taskbar that you open very frequently if the start screen is interrupting flow that badly
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Fine take my start button away.
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No, please, have it.
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I'd rather have the start button than an app designed for touchscreens, thanks.
No, please, have it.
It's a matter of personal preference, but Microsoft doesn't seem keen to let people keep their preferences for who knows what reason. Cost, I guess.
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Microsoft must be surveying the wrong people, I use the damn thing every day many times.
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I'm afraid to say that is the start button, that button itself is not literally metro.
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Here at Microsoft, you, the customer, are wrong. Look how stupid you are consumer base! Ha. Aren't you glad you have US to tell you whether you use something or not?
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In Windows 7 I can fit ~12 items of my own on the start menu.
On Windows 8 I can fit 54.
And that's not even the limit.
All the functionality is still there.
Press the WinKey, then just type what you need.
It still shows everything, including regedit.
They made the button invisible, yes.
But to access it you just need to throw your cursor to the bottom left corner, or just press the windows key.
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Ctrl + Esc then.
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Because Microsoft doesn't want to carry legacy luggage, and support old features (which, by the way, would slow the system down over time, and the same people who didn't like the new start menu will whine about it).
People are NEVER happy with change. People whined when Windows 95, XP, Vista, even 7 came out.
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i don't use my start button
funny how such an insignificant change prompts nerd outrage
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People whined when 7 came out? It's Vista with bug fixes and less system resource waste. 8 on the other hand is a major interface change.
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I believe it is safe to say windows 7 is the new windows XP
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Windows Vista is the new Windows ME.
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If I remember correctly a few people were complaining about the new taskbar taking up more vertical space and the fact it doesn't show labels by default. These complaints seem to have disappeared these days.
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Yes people even bitched when 7 came out. Probably the most common (UI wise) was the extra 10 pixels on the taskbar.
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I find it more intrusive and I have to wonder how they're monitoring how often people use the start button and what criteria does one have to do to 'use' it.
Personally in W7 I use start to get to the control panel, my computer, downloads and search.
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Just make it toggleable as an option...
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Can't you modify that in Control Panel...?
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Yeah you can, but It wasn't well known at the time.
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Why the fuck are you guys complaining?
I hardly use the start button except for searching, everything I need is either pinned or I just search it, the only time I would use the start button properly is to shut down my computer.
I don't see how this is such a big thing.
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That is your point of view. The other point of view is from people who actually use the start button. Maybe you should consider that it is in fact possible for people to do things differently.
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What is there to do in the start menu? It displays your applications, a search box, bunch of tools you can access from windows explorer and turn off options. There's literally no use for it unless you're searching, pinning an application or turning off your computer.
If you can give me another set of reasons to use this apart from that I'll be interested
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Wow could you honestly act more crazy in a post? You act like microsoft is personally trying to harm you by trying to improve something that less and less people were using. Get over yourself
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Why is MS making it so easy for Apple to mudsling them back in their campaign commercials? The Start button to me, seperated Win vs Apple, and it's not gonna feel the same way, it's like they keep making an attempt to look like Apple, it's just they ultimately end up doing the opposite by pissing their customer's off, instead of being thee for them with that friendly possitive type of people on the floor ready to assist their loyal customer's need's. So, who the fuck is the fail focus group at MS, that came up with BS that a fake majority don't use the Start button no more? I don't even believe they had a focus group at all.
I do feel bad though, because these associates at the physical MS office tower, don't all agree with what the director(s) finalize for the rest of us. For example, an office associate told me, that the director forced off the timeline and other features in Microsoft Live Movie Maker, they originally had, because the director wanted to "simplify" things, which in reality, was more complicated due to the harder navigation. And this situation with 8, don't sound too far off with them cutting stuff off from us, considering the start button. Everyone I know fucking uses the Start button, so why stop when we fucking told you not to?
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show me even one, single person who uses windows that's stopped using it. because i couldn't name a soul.
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