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    World cultural body UNESCO was set to create a special fund to protect Mali's heritage on Tuesday after al-Qaida-linked Islamists attacked historic and religious landmarks in the city of Timbuktu for a third day, breaking down the door to a 15th century mosque that -- according to legend -- had to remain shut until the end of the world.
    A UNESCO committee also called for a mission to go to Mali to work with local and national leaders to stop what it called "wanton destruction."
    "In legend, it is said that the main gate of Sidi Yahya mosque will not be opened until the last day (of the world)," Alpha Abdoulahi, the town imam, told Reuters by telephone.
    Yet Islamists intent on erasing traces of what some regard as un-Islamic idolatry smashed down the door to the mosque early on Monday, saying they wanted to "destroy the mystery" of the ancient entrance, he said.
    "They offered me 50,000 CFA ($100) for repairs but I refused to take the money, saying that what they did is irreparable," Abdoulahi added.
    In a statement emailed to msnbc.com Tuesday, UNESCO's World Heritage Committee called for a series of measures to help save Mali's ancient sites and condemned the "repugnant" destruction of Timbuktu's mausoleums.
    UNESCO Director-General Irina Bokova has appealed for a halt to the attacks.


    "There are mausoleums, there are mosques, there are manuscripts which represent enormous value for humanity and it is totally unacceptable what is happening there," Bokova said on Monday.
    The U.N. body seeks to protect places around the world it classifies as world heritage sites, arguing they are of special cultural significance and should be preserved for posterity.
    Government powerless
    Mali's government in the capital Bamako about 630 miles south has condemned the destruction, but is powerless to halt them after its army was routed by rebels in April. It is still struggling to bolster a return to civilian rule after a March 22 coup that emboldened the rebel uprising further north.
    Witnesses: Islamists destroy ancient sites in Timbuktu
    The attacks have been widely condemned inside Mali as well.
    "The 333 saints would be turning in their graves," the country's Les Echos newspaper wrote on Monday, referring to 333 revered Sufi imams, sheiks and scholars buried in Timbuktu.


    "Today there are old women, old people in Timbuktu who say that maybe it is the end of the world," entrepreneur and former Timbuktu resident Male Dioum told Reuters.
    Islamists of the Ansar Dine group say the centuries-old shrines of the local Sufi version of Islam in Timbuktu are idolatrous. They have so far destroyed at least eight of 16 listed mausoleums in the city, together with a number of tombs.
    Ansar Dine and well-armed allies, including al-Qaida splinter group MUJWA, have hijacked a separatist uprising by local Tuareg MNLA rebels and now control two-thirds of Mali's desert north, territory that includes the regions of Gao, Kidal and Timbuktu.


    The size of the area under their control is bigger than France, heightening fears that Mali will become a jihadist haven.
    The MNLA rebels criticized the Islamists' destruction of holy sites, underlining a growing rift between the two groups that had formed an uneasy alliance to take over the north of the country.
    "The perpetrators of these heinous acts, their sponsors, and those who support them must be made accountable," MNLA spokesman Hama Ag Mahmoud told Reuters in an interview in Nouakchott.
    Desert tourism
    Sufi shrines have been attacked by hardline Salafists in Egypt and Libya in the past year. The attacks also recall the 2001 dynamiting by the Taliban of two 6th-century statues of Buddha carved into a cliff in Bamiyan in central Afghanistan.
    According to Time magazine, those who adhere to a more orthodox brand of Islam tend to harbor a particular animosity to Sufism, who have a more mystical interpretation of the divine and a faith that is often rooted in pre-Islamic traditions and a reverence for saints and dead wise men.
    Located on an old Saharan trading route that saw salt from the Arab north exchanged for gold and slaves from black Africa to the south, Timbuktu blossomed in the 16th century as an Islamic seat of learning, home to priests, scribes and jurists.
    In recent years, Mali had sought to create a desert tourism industry around Timbuktu. But even before April's rebellion many tourists were being discouraged by a spate of kidnappings of Westerners in the region claimed by al-Qaida-linked groups.
    http://worldnews.msnbc.msn.com/_news...-timbuktu?lite
    http://www.cnn.com/2012/07/01/world/...html?hpt=wo_c2
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    what the hell timbuktu is a real place?

    what next, nantucket is real?
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    what the hell timbuktu is a real place?

    what next, nantucket is real?
    Yes, I've been there a few times with my grandma.

    Cape Cod 4 lyfe.
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    al-Qaeda linked. I don't know of a single group of violent people the news does not report as al-Qaeda linked.
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    what the hell timbuktu is a real place?

    what next, nantucket is real?
    Of course it's real, I know a man from there! You wouldn't believe the stories they've told about this guy!
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    I'm trying to get over the fact that Islamic terrorists destroyed an old mosque. It sounds like a contradiction.
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    It's been an honour knowing you people    no not really burn in hell everyone   
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    I'm trying to get over the fact that Islamic terrorists destroyed an old mosque. It sounds like a contradiction.
    Yet Islamists intent on erasing traces of what some regard as un-Islamic idolatry smashed down the door to the mosque early on Monday, saying they wanted to "destroy the mystery" of the ancient entrance, he said.
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    I'm trying to get over the fact that Islamic terrorists destroyed an old mosque. It sounds like a contradiction.
    It's more of a sign that this seems to be more about destruction at all. Like a devil in disguise.
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    So Al-Qaida is trying to end the world!
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    what the hell timbuktu is a real place?

    what next, nantucket is real?
    Timbuktu was the educational capitol of the ancient world. It had the largest universities in the ancient world and countless texts in Arabic, Greek, Latin and other languages have been found there.
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    ???
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    Timbuktu was the educational capitol of the ancient world. It had the largest universities in the ancient world and countless texts in Arabic, Greek, Latin and other languages have been found there.
    and now it's a word people use when they mean "ass-end of nowhere."
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    Canuhearme's post
    I read the whole thing and even though it states a reason, it seems vague considering it's a Mosque, so how could it be considered a symbol of idolatry? From what I've read on Muslim culture, they don't like portraits or depicting anything from nature as it could be seen as an idol, so that's why a lot of Muslim art is focused primarily in Architecture.

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    and now it's a word people use when they mean "ass-end of nowhere."
    Because by the time European explorers even bothered to go there, it was a pathetic shadow of it's former self and thus that's all 18th-early 20th century European historians knew of it.
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    OK Al-Qaeda, keep violating your own religion.
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    Suddenly the world doesn't end.

    Imagine their fucking faces
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    from wiki:

    On July 1,2012, the Islamic faction, known as Ansar Dine, or "Protectors of the Faith," seized control of Timbuktu last week after ousting the Tuareg rebel faction that had invaded northern Mali alongside Ansar Dine's soldiers three months ago. Over the weekend, fighters screaming "Allah Akbar" descended on the cemeteries holding the remains of Timbuktu's Sufi saints, and systematically began destroying the six most famous tombs. Among the tombs they destroyed is that of Sidi Mahmoudou, a saint who died in 955, according to the UNESCO website. In addition, on Monday they set upon one of the doors of the Sidi Yahya, a mosque built around 1400. Local legend held that the gate leading to the cemetery would only open on the final day at the end of time. Scholars held out hope that the Islamists would not also attack the city's 20,000-catalogued manuscripts, some dating as far back as the 12th century. Beyond the tombs, the manuscripts are considered to be the real treasure of the region and library owners have succeeded in spiriting some of the manuscripts out of the city, or else buried them in secure locations.
    These guys are the ultimate dicks, I hope they're happy
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    they should go hang themselves
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    from wiki:



    These guys are the ultimate dicks, I hope they're happy
    They're more then likely destroying it because they don't want people to read them and get educated and question Al-Qaida belief system and whether or not they're a proper Islamic believers
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    from wiki:



    These guys are the ultimate dicks, I hope they're happy

    Their official reason for destroying the tombs is that according to them no man should be greater than God, which means that all tombs must be as close to the ground as possible (aka a grave plate).

    And apparently they also don't want women to have a right of proper burial since there was another grave that was just a plate right on ground level and they fucked it up because it had the name of a woman on it.
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    Their official reason for destroying the tombs is that according to them no man should be greater than God, which means that all tombs must be as close to the ground as possible (aka a grave plate).

    And apparently they also don't want women to have a right of proper burial since there was another grave that was just a plate right on ground level and they fucked it up because it had the name of a woman on it.
    I think I lost a few brain cells reading that.
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    Fucking rag heads

    (User was permabanned for this post ("racism strike three" - Swebonny))
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    It might sound fucked up, but now that its open, I wonder whats inside?
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    It might sound fucked up, but now that its open, I wonder whats inside?
    old school porn and other dirty scholar secrets that they knew no dumb fuck would open if they said you shouldn't

    probably anyway
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    Fucking rag heads
    Seriously? They're inconceivably idiotic, but racial slurs?

    Tell you what, next time there's a thread about an atrocity in Africa, feel free to say "Fucking Niggers"
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    Seriously? They're inconceivably idiotic, but racial slurs?

    Tell you what, next time there's a thread about an atrocity in Africa, feel free to say "Fucking Niggers"
    Black people are nice though
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    what the hell timbuktu is a real place?

    what next, nantucket is real?
    don't tell anyone but new york is also real too
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    Black people are nice though
    You clearly have never met an actual Arab.
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    Uhhh... It's been 24 hours hasn't it?
    I'm still here...
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    worlds not dead yet, nice goin'
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    nono there was a mistake it'll take another year

    Edited:

    its gonna happen guis

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    I'm trying to get over the fact that Islamic terrorists destroyed an old mosque. It sounds like a contradiction.
    There are different sets of belief systems within Islam, just like there are many flavors of Christianity.

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    Dennab
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    There are different sets of belief systems within Islam, just like there are many flavors of Christianity.
    So much like Baptists want Catholics dead, Muslims want Muslims dead?

    Edited:

    You clearly have never met an actual Arab.
    In scandinavian society, they're very anxious and aggressively defensive by default. When it's not in context of religion, it's more because immigrants are responsible for a ton of crimes and people just throw shit at them all for what the few do. Except the pizza people. They're pretty cool. Them and the Taxi drivers.
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    There are different sets of belief systems within Islam, just like there are many flavors of Christianity.
    Actually the Quran pretty much prevents branches like Christianity has. There are extremists and such still, but there are not completely different interpretations.

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    what Happened ?
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    what Happened ?
    Absolutely nothing

    Not surprised in the slightest

  40. Post #40
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    Well, it's been two days. I wonder how many muslims actually went fucking nuts and had massive street parties and shit like that, because they thought the world was ending.