Wow a single soldier doesn't sang a little ditty while he killed someone planting an IED that probably would have killed innocents. Let's all get out panties in a bunch because this is the worst thing in the world. We really should care because there is literally nothing else in the world going on right now that's worse. Whatever about Syria or China or any of that stuff. We all know that the U.S. is the worst country in the world and they never do any good and they only try to oppress and hate innocent poor countries that are in the right. People need to know that America is always in the wrong no matter what.
I'm kind of doubtful of the whole "victim was an innocent farmer" thing. I mean honestly now, why would the army waste a $68,000 missile on a single innocent farmer?
If the pilot was any other fucking nationality besides American than you guys would be defending him.
I can understand this, music helps them cope with the stress of war. Also: am I the only one who finds it ironic that it's RussiaToday that's making a big deal of this when Russian soldiers are pretty well known for dancing?
Listen, you really want me to say that this is okay? That's it's okay to kill someone and then not give a fuck? To accept that it's okay for people to die and for the people who did so to not give a fuck?
I understand WHY they wouldn't give a fuck but that doesn't make it okay. Sure, PTSD is shit, but you're SUPPOSED to have PTSD after murdering people, because that shows that you give a shit. I'm not going to give pity to people who volunteer to murder and then just not give a shit. We can't just use abstract concepts of loose morality to define when it's okay for someone to murder and when it's not, and how they should feel about that. You shouldn't be killing people. Killing people is wrong. That's pretty much a given. Whether or not there are exceptions to that is really irrelevant. If we can say:
Man, based on his personal morality, wishes to contribute to his country in a way that includes murdering.
Man is trained to murder without having to deal with the repercussions.
Man murders, doesn't care.
Then at what point do we stop saying that murder is wrong? Is it okay for me to go kill someone I morally disagree with? Should I have to care? Was it okay for ABB to go and shoot a bunch of people for his country, and not care, based on his own morality? At what point am I supposed to say, "Here's a man whose killing a man and singing to it. This is okay." The obvious answer according to most is when it's state-sponsored murder that agrees with the morality of the majority. That doesn't fly for me. I would hope that if someone kills someone, no matter the circumstance, they would have a damn good reason and would give a fuck, because if not all we're doing is training cold-blooded murders. This is why we had shit like Abu Ghraib, and US soldier pissing on Taliban corpses, and Mahmudiyah. Because we train our soldier to kill, and we train them to not give a fuck.
And you expect me to say that murdering is okay, not caring about murdering is okay, it's all cool? Because our poor volunteers fighting for our proud country shouldn't have to go through the terrible mental anguish of dealing with their choices to murder. :(
I don't think so.
ALSO just because the asshat on the ground isn't any better doesn't mean we get to act like dogs because someone else does. We aren't two year olds.
Planting Poppy seeds in the middle of the road?
Yeah I'm sure they would plant valuable plants(For the uninformed, Poppies are where Opium comes from and it's a big business in Afghanistan) in a place where they can easily get run over.
Chances are they were IEDs to destroy some incoming convoy.
He very likely saved the lives of a couple soldiers or even civilians that might accidentally trigger the IEDs, he has all the right to sing.
Modern wars are often fought for no good reason. NATO soldiers volunteer to go to war - and for that reason they aren't automatically entitled to peoples unquestionable respect.
Saying "they're risking their life" isn't a valid reason either because they weren't forced to go half way around the world to fight for democracy. Nobody held a gun to their heads as they signed the recruitment form.
The reason animals are often more mourned over than humans is because we often see animals as innocent beings, that live their lives according to instincts and natures laws - as opposed to humans who are often guided by greed or idiocy.
If you took any kind of Psychology class or even used your brain for once, you'd realize that humans use things like this to cope. Nobody likes pulling the trigger (Unless you're insane or really hate the people you're shooting) An example of this is when you hear something terrible and you laugh. Your mind tries to cope with the depression with laughter (Which releases dopamine or something)
So if anything, the video shows a guy who is just trying to cope with taking somebody's life. Even though the fucker down there probably deserved it if he's planting an IED.
It's like America wants to make their self look bad with sensational titles like these when it's just war.
At least he wasn't singing "Another one bites the dust"
Stop talking. You have NO idea what you're talking about.
The difference between historic wars is that most soldiers volunteer to go to war. And as such, I can fully blame them for their actions during wartime. Again - they weren't forced to be there. They're there because they chose to be there.
He was planting an IED. AN IMPROVISED EXPLOSIVE DEVICE. Last time I checked those killed people, US soldiers and civilians alike.
I for one would kill a terrorist if he posed a threat to the immediate well-being of others.
I understand the economic climate is terrible right now, and jobs are scarce especially for young men. But that still doesn't justify anything. I dont even understand what type of retarded thought process a person must have to automatically enlist the second he needs a piece of bread on the table.
The problem is most men dont know what they're getting into. They're often fooled by the way the world treats war these days. They think it's all technology and shit and you'd be sitting in an air-conditioned tent operating a drone from miles away and bombing some brown people. When in reality they'll most likely be sent to the front lines and see a person they've talked to just 5 minutes ago turned into red mist because of an IED, and suddenly war isn't as fun.
I love how a lot of people in Sensationalist Headlines just think that America is always in the wrong no matter what. There are so many fucking huge double standards people have here.
You're saying its bad killing someone who could have possibly killed up five, ten people? It's the lesser evil in this case.
Will you stop saying it's a murder? Murder would have been him killing a innocent, unarmed civilian.'[Seed Eater posted:
So. What you're saying is. Killing someone who plans to kill several people is morally wrong?'[Seed Eater posted:
Yes.'[Seed Eater posted:
You should likely explain who ABB is.'[Seed Eater posted:
It's okay. Because he's singing to cope with the terrible fact that he's about to take someones life. Which proves he isn't insane.'[Seed Eater posted:
Considering the fact that dude was planting a IED in the middle of the road. I think that's a pretty good damn reason to kill someone. I don't think a cold blooded murderer would kill someone to save a few lifes.'[Seed Eater posted:
We don't train soldiers not to give a fuck. I don't know where you're getting that from. We don't train them not to care so they can go desecrate corpses. War absolutely rips your mind apart.'[Seed Eater posted:
Once again. It isn't murder.'[Seed Eater posted:
I'm going to say right here, that this is extremely bigoted. It's not the fact that it's an american pilot. It's about the fact that he was coping with the stress like any rational person would do in that situation.'[Seed Eater posted:
Once again. It's coping with the terrible fact that he had just killed someone. He wasn't acting like a dog. But from all your post. This is obviously engraved into your head. Therefor, explaining this any further is a complete waste of my, and everyone else's time.'[Seed Eater posted:
But seriously, you're going to make the connection that someone who enlists as a last resort to provide for their family must just be retarded? Are you kidding me?