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SourceAccording to several reports in the Arabic media, prominent Muslim clerics have begun to call for the demolition of Egypt's Great Pyramids--or, in the words of Saudi Sheikh Ali bin Said al-Rabi'i, those "symbols of paganism," which Egypt's Salafi party has long planned to cover with wax. Most recently, Bahrain's "Sheikh of Sunni Sheikhs" and President of National Unity, Abd al-Latif al-Mahmoud, called on Egypt's new president, Muhammad Morsi, to "destroy the Pyramids and accomplish what the Sahabi Amr bin al-As could not."
This is a reference to the Muslim Prophet Muhammad's companion, Amr bin al-As and his Arabian tribesmen, who invaded and conquered Egypt circa 641. Under al-As and subsequent Muslim rule, many Egyptian antiquities were destroyed as relics of infidelity. While most Western academics argue otherwise, according to early Muslim writers, the great Library of Alexandria itself--deemed a repository of pagan knowledge contradicting the Koran--was destroyed under bin al-As's reign and in compliance with Caliph Omar's command.
However, while book-burning was an easy activity in the 7th century, destroying the mountain-like pyramids and their guardian Sphinx was not--even if Egypt's Medieval Mamluk rulers "de-nosed" the latter during target practice (though popular legend still attributes it to a Westerner, Napoleon).
Now, however, as Bahrain's "Sheikh of Sheikhs" observes, and thanks to modern technology, the pyramids can be destroyed. The only question left is whether the Muslim Brotherhood president of Egypt is "pious" enough--if he is willing to complete the Islamization process that started under the hands of Egypt's first Islamic conqueror.
Nor is such a course of action implausible. History is laden with examples of Muslims destroying their own pre-Islamic heritage--starting with Islam's prophet Muhammad himself, who destroyed Arabia's Ka'ba temple, transforming it into a mosque.
Asking "What is it about Islam that so often turns its adherents against their own patrimony?" Daniel Pipes provides several examples, from Medieval Muslims in India destroying their forefathers' temples, to contemporary Muslims destroying their non-Islamic heritage in Egypt, Iraq, Israel, Malaysia, and Tunisia.
Currently, in what the International Criminal Court is describing as a possible "war crime," Islamic fanatics are destroying the ancient heritage of the city of Timbuktu in Mali--all to Islam's triumphant war cry, "Allahu Akbar!"
Much of this hate for their own pre-Islamic heritage is tied to the fact that, traditionally, Muslims do not identify with this or that nation, culture, heritage, or language, but only with the Islamic nation--the Umma.
Accordingly, while many Egyptians--Muslims and non-Muslims alike--see themselves as Egyptians, Islamists have no national identity, identifying only with Islam's "culture," based on the "sunna" of the prophet and Islam's language, Arabic. This sentiment was clearly reflected when the former Leader of the Muslim Brotherhood, Muhammad Akef, declared "the hell with Egypt," indicating that the interests of his country are secondary to Islam's.
It is further telling that such calls are being made now--immediately after a Muslim Brotherhood member became Egypt's president. In fact, the same reports discussing the call to demolish the last of the Seven Wonders of the Word, also note that Egyptian Salafis are calling on Morsi to banish all Shias and Baha'is from Egypt.
In other words, Morsi's call to release the Blind Sheikh, a terrorist mastermind, may be the tip of the iceberg in coming audacity. From calls to legalize Islamic sex-slave marriage to calls to institute "morality police" to calls to destroy Egypt's mountain-like monuments, under Muslim Brotherhood tutelage, the bottle has been uncorked, and the genie unleashed in Egypt.
Will all those international institutions, which make it a point to look the other way whenever human rights abuses are committed by Muslims, lest they appear "Islamophobic," at least take note now that the Great Pyramids appear to be next on Islam's hit list, or will the fact that Muslims are involved silence them once again--even as those most ancient symbols of human civilization are pummeled to the ground?
What the fuck?
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There are no words to describe the rage.
No words.
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Nothing to worry about, never gonna happen. That's just sad to see some people are so devoted to their beliefs they're willing to destroy their own history.
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what the fuck
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Oh my god why do they have to be so backwards
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Unacceptable.
The Pyramids are amazing, nobody would agree to demolishing them.
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Haha good luck with that it's only lasted a good 3000 years or more
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Say my name. Say it three times and I'll slap you with some computer facts.
November 2007
9,242 Posts
Sheesh. At least all the Christians did when they took over was convert all the old temples and crap into churches (see:
The PantheonChurch of St. Mary and the Martyrs).
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Although the Muslims have done so as well - the cathedral of Hagia Sophia was converted into a mosque after the Turks conquered Byzantium.
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Because when you have a religious founder encouraging people to spread their message certain people (usually politicians) will quickly interpret it as "destroy all competition".
They did until the Catholic church was established. Then they got violent.
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How credible is this source? It and other sources for the same story (googling "Call to destroy...") are pretty much all heavily conservative/Christian-based/anti-Islam. Even this article has some degree of bias.
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It's an Egyptian sectarian Christian paper. Its not being covered by other sources because its obscure clerics from the Gulf, not Egypt, calling for its destruction. AKA incessant fearmongering.
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"hey guys this building doesn't adhere with my religion we should like demolish it and stuff despite its immense cultural and historical importance
yeah
that'll show em who's boss"
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Let them destroy it, then have all the nearby nations build their own pyramids. Egypt then gets jealous and has second thoughts, hilarity ensues.
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Good thing Egypt's new president isn't a fucking idiot.
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because people still build pyramids
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Say my name. Say it three times and I'll slap you with some computer facts.
November 2007
9,242 Posts
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The only sources I can find on this apart from the OP (which doesn't even load properly) are prison planet, frontpage mag, jihad watch, and above top secret. I'm gonna withhold my fury until we can confirm this is for real and not some made up daily mail style bullshit.
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Hopefully they'll realize that not only is this unnecessary, it's also the only fucking reason people visit Egypt.
They'd be losing untold amounts of tourist money.
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Terrible source. Terrible journalism. Maximum sensationalism.
I wouldn't trust this one bit.
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Why not turn it into a museum? These dumb fanatics is making us Muslims look bad. I bet these fanatics would also like to destroy the internet and television if they are given the chance.
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Or turn the tomb inside into a mosque.
What? The place was ransacked centuries ago, it's just unused real estate right now.
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Yay Islam
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Good job Islam, proving you are again in the forefront of rational thinking.
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What would they destroy it with? Nukes? Bulldozers? I dunno if you realize but the pyramids are goddamn ENORMOUS.
The sphinx isn't holding a crescent, destroy that too
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oh i'm sorry did we not invade a whole bunch of countries with muslims in them?
shit article, close thread, disconnect internet
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Say my name. Say it three times and I'll slap you with some computer facts.
November 2007
9,242 Posts
Okay, after looking into this some more, this definitely seems to be a minority viewpoint in Egypt. Think of it like a Muslim equivalent of the Westboro Baptist Church, almost.
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I don't understand your point...
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the article writer seems to think that the international community ignores muslim human rights abuses, yet the west has invaded the middle east more times than i can count on my hands.
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I read every post of yours in James May's voice, and it makes them a hundred times more entertaining to read.
Thank you.
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If the mods approve of this title they hereby admit that they are all massive faggots
October 2009
7,223 Posts
It would take a lot to destroy the pyramids, they're like at least 90% solid rock, as opposed to most buildings which are for the most part hollow.
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I hope nothing ever comes of this. I have always loved Egypt's history and visiting the Great Pyramids-- among many other places in Egypt-- has been a lifetime aspiration of mine for longer than I can remember. The chance was robbed from me once, but I plead that it's not be robbed from me permanently.
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Are you implying that the west invades the middle east because of objections to human rights abuse?
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no i'm saying that the article writer is dumb
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-didn't refresh the page-
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it's not? a whole bunch of people getting killed in a conflict they had no choice over?
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Hey OP, maybe you should make a note that this is not going to happen because like five people have this viewpoint.
Also, why do you even have that source? It's like you googled "Muslims are stupid" and then used the first goddamn link you found to capitalize on the fact that most facepunchers only read a title to get an unwavering opinion on a subject.
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Hell the link doesn't even work.
I find it funny though that people in this thread are using this example of a few radical Muslims having a minority viewpoint and extrapolating it to the entirety of Islam.
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but seriously the pyramids would cost an enormous amount of money to take apart its not feasible no matter how crazy conservatives get over it in Egypt
also the Government would not let it happen, they are more pragmatic than most face punchers think the Brotherhood are
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For what reason? you still havent crystalized that
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But its MUSLIM brotherhood. It means that they all fuck goats and stone women.
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Almost all the temples of Ancient Rome were destroyed, with the exception of the Pantheon. The Vatican is built with the stone of destroyed temples. (Even the pantheon's bronze ceiling was melted down under order of Pope Urban VIII)
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