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    (Reuters) - An ailing 83-year-old lesbian asked the Supreme Court on Monday to hear her legal challenge against a federal law that defines marriage as a union between a man and woman, attempting to place her case on a fast-track to the top court.

    The suit, filed by Edith Schlain Windsor in 2010, targets the Defense of Marriage Act, a law passed by the U.S. Congress in 1996 that denies federal benefits to lawfully married same-sex couples.

    Windsor's petition attempts to bypass the U.S. Court of Appeals, which is slated to hear the case in September.

    With Windsor's filing, there are three petitions pending before the Supreme Court over the constitutionality of the Defense of Marriage Act, an issue the high court could take up in oral arguments as early as next spring, said Windsor's lawyer Roberta Kaplan, of Paul, Weiss, Rifkind, Wharton & Garrison LLP.

    "This case presents a question of exceptional national importance: the constitutionality of a statute, the Defense of Marriage Act ('DOMA'), that daily affects the lives of thousands of Americans," the petition said.

    In June, a New York district court ruled in Windsor's favor, finding that a central provision of the law discriminates against married same-sex couples. The case is now on expedited appeal before the 2nd U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals.

    But Windsor's lawyers argue that premature review of her case by the Supreme Court is warranted since the issue is already before the court. Also, Windsor suffers from a heart condition that could end her life before the case is resolved.

    The American Civil Liberties Union originally filed the suit in New York on behalf of Windsor, a former computer programmer who married Thea Clara Spyer in Toronto, Canada, in 2007. The two were engaged in 1967.

    Spyer died in 2009 after a long battle with multiple sclerosis, leaving her property to Windsor. Because the marriage was not recognized under federal law, Windsor had to pay more than $363,000 in federal estate taxes, according to the suit.

    Six states have legalized same-sex marriage since DOMA went into effect, including New York in 2011. But federal law and programs do not recognize those marriages because of DOMA.

    Windsor's attorneys argue that the federal law violates the 14th Amendment of the U.S. Constitution which prohibits states from denying people equal protection under the laws.

    Federal courts in New York, California and Massachusetts all found the law unconstitutional for different reasons, applying varying standards of legal analysis.

    The Republican-controlled House of Representatives, through its Bipartisan Legal Advisory Group (BLAG), is defending the law, which the Obama administration has largely abandoned. President Barack Obama in 2011 instructed the Justice Department to stop defending the law in courts, finding it unconstitutional.
    http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/...86F1BA20120716

    Hope she wins.
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    BadDrum's Avatar
    July 2012
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    even if she wins
    you do realize that lesbians or gays cannot have babies
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  3. Post #3
    What's brevity?
    ironman17's Avatar
    June 2006
    19,002 Posts
    Your point being...? It's love what matters, apparently.
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    June's Avatar
    April 2010
    671 Posts
    even if she wins
    you do realize that lesbians or gays cannot have babies
    they can adopt.

    Edited:

    although i hardly think it matters
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  5. Post #5
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    June 2009
    13,237 Posts
    even if she wins
    you do realize that lesbians or gays cannot have babies
    wow i never knew that

    thanks for telling me so i dont wind up gay and childless!!
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  6. Post #6
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    June 2007
    831 Posts
    even if she wins
    you do realize that lesbians or gays cannot have babies
    Cite your sources.
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  7. Post #7
    BadDrum's Avatar
    July 2012
    88 Posts
    Cite your sources.
    En.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pregnancy
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    RAPISTS ARE OPPRESSED
    mobrockers2's Avatar
    April 2011
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    En.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pregnancy
    You expect me to get all the info I need out of that one line?
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    even if she wins
    you do realize that lesbians or gays cannot have babies
    and yet people have no problem with straight couples where one or both are infertile or simply don't want to have kids
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    BadDrum's Avatar
    July 2012
    88 Posts
    and yet people have no problem with straight couples where one or both are infertile or simply don't want to have kids
    Yes, because they can if they wanted to.

    Gays is they cant, even if they wanted to
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    October 2007
    21,857 Posts
    Your point being...? It's love what matters, apparently.
    july 2012 with 9 posts

    probably a gimmick bro
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    November 2010
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    Hope she doesn't win.
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  13. Post #13
    What's brevity?
    ironman17's Avatar
    June 2006
    19,002 Posts
    july 2012 with 9 posts

    probably a gimmick bro
    Yeah, but it's that kind of nasty subhuman that's dragging down the species man; better to try and force a change than to just brush it off as an irritant.

    And another appears; what a dickhole.

  14. Post #14
    RAPISTS ARE OPPRESSED
    mobrockers2's Avatar
    April 2011
    12,403 Posts
    Yes, because they can if they wanted to.

    Gays is they cant, even if they wanted to
    Funny thing being that when you're infertile YOU CAN'T IF YOU WANTED TO.
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    June 2010
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    even if she wins
    you do realize that lesbians or gays cannot have babies
    So? There's an almost equal amount of options to them.
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    BadDrum's Avatar
    July 2012
    88 Posts
    Funny thing being that when you're infertile YOU CAN'T IF YOU WANTED TO.
    sorry for my engrish

    (User was banned for this post ("You're not sorry" - verynicelady))
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    November 2010
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    Yeah, but it's that kind of nasty subhuman that's dragging down the species man; better to try and force a change than to just brush it off as an irritant.

    And another appears; what a dickhole.
    No, it's people like you who dismiss people as 'dickholes' for their personal, possibly religious beliefs.

    Everyone is entitled to an opinion. Whether their opinion is credible or not is not for you to decide because you don't know shit about anyone over the internet.
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    BadDrum's Avatar
    July 2012
    88 Posts
    So? There's an almost equal amount of options to them.
    errr no

    Equal rights everywhere?
    Ability to have children?

    I could name more, but still. Gay marriage legal will never see the light.
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    SUPER SWELL FELLOW
    Phrozen99's Avatar
    May 2006
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    No, it's people like you who dismiss people as 'dickholes' for their personal, possibly religious beliefs.

    Everyone is entitled to an opinion. Whether their opinion is credible or not is not for you to decide because you don't know shit about anyone over the internet.
    No you can't on facepunch, you get yelled at for opinions and beliefs.
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    August 2007
    9,110 Posts
    Just let people marry whoever they want, provided that the couple is two consenting adults and the church is okay with marrying them.
    The US Government steps into too many places where it doen't belong.
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  21. Post #21
    I'M A MASSIVE FAGGOT AND LOVE COCKS
    DrBreen's Avatar
    June 2007
    4,991 Posts
    even if she wins
    you do realize that lesbians or gays cannot have babies
    It's not like an 80 year old can HAVE kids, you dumbass
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  22. Post #22
    RAPISTS ARE OPPRESSED
    mobrockers2's Avatar
    April 2011
    12,403 Posts
    errr no

    Equal rights everywhere?
    Ability to have children?

    I could name more, but still. Gay marriage legal will never see the light.
    He said almost. The only option a gay couple doesn't have is a baby between them, all other options open to straight couples are also open to gay couples.

  23. Post #23
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    January 2011
    29,646 Posts
    even if she wins
    you do realize that lesbians or gays cannot have babies
    It's funny how people assume all couples have kids.
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    I'M A MASSIVE FAGGOT AND LOVE COCKS
    DrBreen's Avatar
    June 2007
    4,991 Posts
    Hope she doesn't win.
    Why?

  25. Post #25
    errr no

    Equal rights everywhere?
    Ability to have children?

    I could name more, but still. Gay marriage legal will never see the light.
    then why is it legal or almost legal in many developed european countries

  26. Post #26
    I can't think of a good title.
    Reds's Avatar
    May 2010
    16,221 Posts
    Obvious troll is obvious. Just ignore this idiot.
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    No, it's people like you who dismiss people as 'dickholes' for their personal, possibly religious beliefs.

    Everyone is entitled to an opinion. Whether their opinion is credible or not is not for you to decide because you don't know shit about anyone over the internet.
    beliefs don't deserve respect by default, they have to earn it.
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    May 2006
    14,907 Posts
    even if she wins
    you do realize that lesbians or gays cannot have babies
    yeah guys
    how can you forget that gay sex is gross and they have cooties
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    BadDrum's Avatar
    July 2012
    88 Posts
    then why is it legal or almost legal in many developed european countries
    Kosovo, Albania, and some other places have it illegal.

    Because, they want you to believe they are friendly to everyone.
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    RAPISTS ARE OPPRESSED
    mobrockers2's Avatar
    April 2011
    12,403 Posts
    Kosovo, Albania, and some other places have it illegal.

    Because, they want you to believe they are friendly to everyone.
    Keyword is developed european countries.
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  31. Post #31
    BadDrum's Avatar
    July 2012
    88 Posts
    Obvious troll is obvious. Just ignore this idiot.
    Not trying to troll but I think i will follow what you saif

  32. Post #32
    Failure's Avatar
    October 2008
    1,440 Posts
    Kosovo, Albania, and some other places have it illegal.

    Because, they want you to believe they are friendly to everyone.
    Shut the fuck up already.

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    ﷽ ﷽ ﷽ ﷽ ﷽ ﷽ ﷽ ﷽ ﷽ ﷽ ﷽ ﷽ ﷽ ﷽ ﷽ ﷽ ﷽
    zerothefallen's Avatar
    March 2010
    8,082 Posts
    bad drum is trying to cover up his homophobia with "GAYS CANT HAVE KIDS"

    Great argument

  34. Post #34
    Silverspar's Avatar
    May 2009
    1,144 Posts
    Isn't America "Land of the Free"?, then why in fucks sake is Gay marriage outlawed?

  35. Post #35
    RAPISTS ARE OPPRESSED
    mobrockers2's Avatar
    April 2011
    12,403 Posts
    Isn't America "Land of the Free"?, then why in fucks sake is Gay marriage outlawed?
    Free to block things you don't believe in.

    Edited:

    Free to mess with other peoples business.
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    January 2012
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    and yet people have no problem with straight couples where one or both are infertile or simply don't want to have kids
    Sterile people shouldn't be allowed to marry! It's unnatural that couples involving sterile people can't propagate the species!

    In all seriousness though, if this issue could be settled and equal marriage rights were granted, we could make a lot more progress in adopting children who otherwise have no chance of having a real home. Gays and lesbians can't have kids? Let them adopt, and give some poor abandoned child (abandoned by those perfect straight couples) a warm bed, and a better chance at making something of themselves and being happy.
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    my portfolio
    Dennab
    April 2012
    1,392 Posts
    Isn't America "Land of the Free"?, then why in fucks sake is Gay marriage outlawed?
    It upsets Jesus. :'(
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  38. Post #38
    The Worm's Avatar
    December 2011
    2,232 Posts
    even if she wins
    you do realize that lesbians or gays cannot have babies
    Lesbians can use a sperm donor, and gays can have a surrogate mother.

  39. Post #39
    TonyP's Avatar
    May 2012
    1,481 Posts
    even if she wins
    you do realize that lesbians or gays cannot have babies
    Gay peoples genitals still work. They can either A. have an opposite friend sex them, B. Artificial insemination, or C. adopt.

  40. Post #40
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    November 2008
    12,435 Posts
    Kosovo, Albania, and some other places have it illegal.

    Because, they want you to believe they are friendly to everyone.
    What exactly is your argument? All you've said is gay couples can't have a child on their own as if that wasn't a mundane obvious fact everybody already knew. Now you're talking about how some small and insignificant countries have illegalized gay marriage. What are you getting at? Why are you posting?

    Just trying to get you somewhere before everyone concludes you're a troll so they can avoid talking to you.