1. Post #1
    Dennab
    June 2011
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    case and point for concealed carry.

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    hey
    Ownederd's Avatar
    August 2006
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    what gives him the authority to use lethal force
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  3. Post #3
    Dennab
    June 2011
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    one got a .380 to the hip and thigh, the other just got grazed on the arm.

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    The incoming debate in this thread is so strong i nearly fell out of my chair.
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  5. Post #5
    Dennab
    June 2011
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    what gives him the authority to use lethal force
    Umm maybe the 2 guns pointed at him?
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    what gives him the authority to use lethal force
    Because he is the law.
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  7. Post #7
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    June 2006
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    what gives him the authority to use lethal force
    Your opinion would change if you were in any sort of danger.
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  8. Post #8
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    November 2006
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    what gives him the authority to use lethal force
    Victimizing gun-wielding thugs... classy.
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  9. Post #9
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    what gives him the authority to use lethal force
    If someone was pointing a gun at me, and I also had a gun, I would definitely shoot them. I don't know if they're going to pull the trigger, so why should I give them the chance?
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    hey
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    Victimizing gun-wielding thugs... classy.
    did you read this over or did you post this with the intention of "heh...... ill own that noobe"

    If someone was pointing a gun at me, and I also had a gun, I would definitely shoot them. I don't know if they're going to pull the trigger, so why should I give them the chance?
    have you ever had a firearm pointed at you before in a authoritative manner

    (User was banned for this post ("Trolling/Trying to start a shitstorm" - Orkel))
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  11. Post #11
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    The guy that shot at the robbers was a grown ass man, I think he used the privilege to carry a gun properly.

    Although I think maybe he shouldn't of shot to injure though, maybe very close to do the same affect of them running out like that
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  12. Post #12
    Dennab
    June 2011
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    The guy that shot at the robbers was a grown ass man, I think he used the privilege to carry a gun properly.

    Although I think maybe he shouldn't of shot to injure though, maybe very close to do the same affect of them running out like that
    I don't think he was trying to shoot to injure I think he's just an old man who's a pretty bad shot.

  13. Post #13
    Ligger Nyncher
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    August 2009
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    I couldn't help but laugh at the way some old guy just runs out of nowhere with a pistol
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  14. Post #14
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    what gives him the authority to use lethal force
    If someone was robbing me at gunpoint and I had a gun that I could use I would not hesitate to shoot them.
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    have you ever had a firearm pointed at you before in a authoritative manner
    That's a different case entirely. These guys definitely aren't cops.
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    Dennab
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    did you read this over or did you post this with the intention of "heh...... ill own that noobe"



    have you ever had a firearm pointed at you before in a authoritative manner
    poor, poor armed robbers.. the horror.. i hope the old man sent a written apology to them
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  17. Post #17
    hey
    Ownederd's Avatar
    August 2006
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    If someone was robbing me at gunpoint and I had a gun that I could use I would not hesitate to shoot them.
    you do not reserve the right to kill or maim someone if they're just gonna steal your computer
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  18. Post #18
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    Dennab
    June 2005
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    you do not reserve the right to kill or maim someone if they're just gonna steal your computer
    Yes I do.
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    you do not reserve the right to kill or maim someone if they're just gonna steal your computer
    Because I have the time to stop a fucking robber and debate with him about his or my authority to use lethal force to prevent me from dying.
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    you do not reserve the right to kill or maim someone if they're just gonna steal your computer
    See the part in my post that says "robbing me at gunpoint."

    If someone is waving a gun around and trying to commit a crime then me or someone else can get injured or killed.

    If they came in with like a knife or something I would pull a gun and say something along the lines of "drop your shit." If the knifeman came charging at me THEN I would fire.
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  21. Post #21
    hey
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    Yes I do.
    oh no he's gonna steal all your software and hardware

    get help
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  22. Post #22
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    Dennab
    August 2009
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    oh no he's gonna steal all your software and hardware

    get help
    oh no he has a gun and is going to shoot me

    leave him alone
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  23. Post #23
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    That old man was fucking awesome. And he did the right thing. If those thugs are going to be stupid enough to reduce themselves to stealing from people at a fucking internet cafe, then they deserve to be shot.
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    oh no he's gonna steal all your software and hardware

    get help
    He has a fucking gun.

    He pulls a trigger and you are dead.

    Its not him stealing the shit thats the problem.
    Its him having a gun and waving it around while doing so.
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  25. Post #25
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    oh no he's gonna steal all your software and hardware

    get help
    How do you know he's going to just steal from you? I hope, one day, you have a wife and kids, and your house gets broken into. That way, you can sit there, and let them murder your kids, rape your wife, and steal all your belongings while you twiddle your thumbs saying "oh yeah, you do that, I don't have the right to defend myself!"
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  26. Post #26
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    You must be trolling because no-one is that retarded.
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  27. Post #27
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    October 2010
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    oh no he's gonna steal all your software and hardware

    get help
    okay let's say I have a gun at your head and you have a gun at mine, and I shout "YOU DON'T HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO SHOOT ME" Does that mean I win?
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  28. Post #28
    hey
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    You must be trolling because no-one is that retarded.
    it isn't trolling just because you don't agree with it

    and i never mentioned self-defense, once
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    oh no he's gonna steal all your software and hardware

    get help
    Ownederd, are you one of the guys who got shot here and scurried off? You can tell us the truth, we won't report you to the police, getting shot by an old man and running that fast is punishment enough.
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  30. Post #30
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    October 2009
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    it isn't trolling just because you don't agree with it
    Yeah, you're right, it's not trolling.

    It's having the most nonsensical, idiotic, unfounded opinion based in ideologies that make no sense in the real world. It's easy to say "just walk away" when you've never experienced any kind of armed conflict whatsoever.
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    June 2010
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    it isn't trolling just because you don't agree with it

    and i never mentioned self-defense, once
    You are saying that because they were just there to steal computers and money that no-one should have shot them EVEN THOUGH THEY WERE WAVING GUNS AROUND.

    That is stupid.

  32. Post #32
    hey
    Ownederd's Avatar
    August 2006
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    Ownederd, are you one of the guys who got shot here and scurried off? You can tell us the truth, we won't report you to the police, getting shot by an old man and running that fast is punishment enough.
    epic troll

    Loriborn posted:
    Yeah, you're right, it's not trolling.

    It's having the most nonsensical, idiotic, unfounded opinion based in ideologies that make no sense in the real world. It's easy to say "just walk away" when you've never experienced any kind of armed conflict whatsoever.
    please directly quote where i said anything about self-defense

    oh wait i never did

    you reserve the right to preserve yourself and others, not to kill
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    June 2010
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    please directly quote where i said anything about self-defense

    oh wait i never did

    you reserve the right to preserve yourself and others, not to kill
    what gives him the authority to use lethal force
    There would be no force of any kind if it wasn't in self defense.

  34. Post #34
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    It's about more then self defense. It's about putting people like this in their place. If people didn't fight back against crooks then that means they're gonna do it again in the future because they know noone's gonna resist.

    Are you saying you want assholes like this to steal from innocent people and get away with it? Are you saying we don't have a right to protect what's ours, to fight back?
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  35. Post #35
    hey
    Ownederd's Avatar
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    There would be no force of any kind if it wasn't in self defense.
    yea but there's a difference between lethal force and force that's actually warranted

    if i was sprayed with high grade caspium spray i would be in agony, but it wouldn't be lethal to me

    It's about more then self defense. It's about putting people like this in their place. If people didn't fight back against crooks then that means they're gonna do it again in the future because they know noone's gonna resist.

    Are you saying you want assholes like this to steal from innocent people and get away with it? Are you saying we don't have a right to protect what's ours, to fight back?
    good job twisting what i'm saying in a vain attempt to marginalize my argument
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    yea but there's a difference between lethal force and force that's actually warranted
    Because running at two guys armed with guns with just your bare hands is a pretty good idea. And sorry even if you got pepper sprayed there's a chance the crook could flail his gun around, shooting randomly and potentially hurting or killing someone in the process.
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    yea but there's a difference between lethal force and force that's actually warranted
    Your acting like the guy thought in his head "I am going to KILL these people because they are robbing us"

    Life isn't like cod where you aim down the sight and then magical straight aiming. Its shoot in their general direction and hope for a hit.

  38. Post #38
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    you reserve the right to preserve yourself and others, not to kill
    Sometimes the only way is to kill.

    You're making the mistake of thinking people who carry guns are maniacs. Most of them never end up using their gun, and I imagine they're quite happy about that. This man is going to get a lot of pats on the back for what he did, but I'm sure he's not going to feel 100% comfortable with what he did. Still, he made sure everyone who wasn't waving guns around the store got home in one piece, and that's a good thing no matter how you look at it.
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  39. Post #39
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    November 2007
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    Guis we hav 2 think about the ritez of the people who disregard the rights of others, all life is sacred :)))

    i hope they were okay :((((

    old man deserves life in prison

       /sarcasm   

  40. Post #40
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    yea but there's a difference between lethal force and force that's actually warranted

    if i was sprayed with high grade caspium spray i would be in agony, but it wouldn't be lethal to me
    If you had a gun and get pepperspray'd, you wouldn't drop the gun and give in. You'd shoot the one that sprayed you. If they shot you on the other hand...
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