1. Post #761
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    Dennab
    July 2010
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    Were basically calling you out and saying that you're full of shit by claiming that the animations are bad because the game might share some resources with a previous title.

    You can't know by screenshots.
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  2. Post #762
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    No, I've played War Inc., the game whose assets War Z borrows heavily from.
    Enlighten me, then. How much stuff do you see that's taken from War Inc, and tell me about your absolute certainity that everything will stay this way and eventual re-used models aren't just placeholders, this thing being in alpha and whatnot.
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  3. Post #763
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    What you're doing isn't sharing anything, you're pulling false things out your ass like they're facts.
    Ok maybe it's a bit much to assume that every shortcoming in War Inc. will be present in this game as well but the assets they're reusing still aren't very good. I'd rather have had Hammerpoint create their own.
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  4. Post #764
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    you act as if the assets they're reusing are final

    they haven't even released the goddamn beta
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  5. Post #765
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    Ok maybe it's a bit much to assume that every shortcoming in War Inc. will be present in this game as well but the assets they're reusing still aren't very good. I'd rather have had Hammerpoint create their own.
    Can you please give examples of these assets they're reusing?
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  6. Post #766
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    -snip-
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  7. Post #767
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    Can you please give examples of these assets they're reusing?
    Guns, playermodels, gun anims, player anims. Even for F2P standards they're p bad, and this is a game that, according to a few pages back, will cost $60.

    I don't even like Day Z, but the mod has a military sandbox as a backbone while War Z has a mediocre arcade shooter. War Z will probably have more features and be user friendly but the former will have tons flocking to it just for the immersion factor.
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  8. Post #768
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    Okay and where did you see this video that shows these animations?

    Edited:

    Also quit getting game and engine confused. Did you know Civilization IV is on the same engine as The Elder Scrolls?
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  9. Post #769
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    I don't even like Day Z, but the mod has a military sandbox as a backbone
    A military sandbox legendary for it's poorly designed engine and lack of ANY sort of first person arm mesh or view model for the guns, they just took the lazy route and tacked on a camera onto the third person model.
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  10. Post #770
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    A military sandbox legendary for it's poorly designed engine and lack of ANY sort of first person arm mesh or view model for the guns, they just took the lazy route and tacked on a camera onto the third person model.
    I don't see this so much as the lazy route as them being lazy in how they implemented it. I prefer a camera tacked onto third person, but only if it's done well. I believe there were a few source mods that did it.
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  11. Post #771
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    I don't really see how not being able to see your legs would affect a game such as this but okay.
    People go completely apeshit over seeing your legs in shooters. A few games did it and now everyone demands every game ever does it. It doesn't bother me at all, I grew up on DOOM. Legs are neat, but I don't kick my feet and cry about it when a game doesn't have them, like I've seen a lot of people do.
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  12. Post #772
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    A military sandbox legendary for it's poorly designed engine and lack of ANY sort of first person arm mesh or view model for the guns, they just took the lazy route and tacked on a camera onto the third person model.
    But it can handle a lot.

    War Inc.'s stability crumbles once 10 people shoot each other in the same vicinity. Imagine that but with hundreds of zombies.
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  13. Post #773
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    For the sake of immersion it's cool, but I can live without it.
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  14. Post #774
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    People go completely apeshit over seeing your legs in shooters. A few games did it and now everyone demands every game ever does it. It doesn't bother me at all, I grew up on DOOM. Legs are neat, but I don't kick my feet and cry about it when a game doesn't have them, like I've seen a lot of people do.
    I agree that it's nice to see smaller details like this, however it definitely doesn't ruin the game if it's missing.
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  15. Post #775
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    But it can handle a lot.

    War Inc.'s stability crumbles once 10 people shoot each other in the same vicinity. Imagine that but with hundreds of zombies.
    War Inc. =/= the full capabilities of that engine.
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  16. Post #776
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    I don't see this so much as the lazy route as them being lazy in how they implemented it.
    Ah yes that's what I meant but my statement was too vague, thanks for the correction!
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  17. Post #777
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    But it can handle a lot.

    War Inc.'s stability crumbles once 10 people shoot each other in the same vicinity. Imagine that but with hundreds of zombies.
    War Inc isn't exactly an optimized game. You're still getting game and engine confused.

    Look: Day Z is a MOD of Arma 2, whose ENGINE is already LESS THAN INCREDIBLE.

    War Z is a GAME being built on the ENGINE of War Inc, which is LESS THAN GOOD.
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  18. Post #778
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    But it can handle a lot.

    War Inc.'s stability crumbles once 10 people shoot each other in the same vicinity. Imagine that but with hundreds of zombies.
    You do realize you're just digging yourself deeper into this hole, yes?

    Just because it's the same engine, doesn't mean it'll be as badly optimized.
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  19. Post #779
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    Guns, playermodels
    Again, could be placeholders.

    gun anims, player anims.
    Because we've totally seen them.
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  20. Post #780
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    Ignore and don't answer please.
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  21. Post #781
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    Because we've totally seen them.
    Yes. In War Inc.

    Edited:

    Ignore and don't answer please.
    Ok.
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  22. Post #782
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    Again, could be placeholders.



    Because we've totally seen them.
    I'm pretty sure we've only just recently got screenshots of guns in-game... so how can he tell especialy from pictures.
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  23. Post #783
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    I'm pretty sure we've only just recently got screenshots of guns in-game... so how can he tell especialy from pictures.
    I believe it was sarcasm on jimhowl33t's part.
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  24. Post #784
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    But it can handle a lot.

    War Inc.'s stability crumbles once 10 people shoot each other in the same vicinity. Imagine that but with hundreds of zombies.
    stop posting you're only making yourself look dumber for each new post
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  25. Post #785
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    Yes. In War Inc.
    I feel as though this just tells me that you're looking for reactions now.
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  26. Post #786
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    So now I ask another question: How many different ways can you model the same gun? If they're using the same gun in both games and they DID make a from-scratch model, how would you even be able to tell?
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  27. Post #787
    Guns, playermodels, gun anims, player anims. Even for F2P standards they're p bad, and this is a game that, according to a few pages back, will cost $60.

    I don't even like Day Z, but the mod has a military sandbox as a backbone while War Z has a mediocre arcade shooter. War Z will probably have more features and be user friendly but the former will have tons flocking to it just for the immersion factor.
    yesterday as I was playing dayz a hacker teleported the entire server to himself, spawned towers of crates containing every weapon in the game, and then proceded to break 3 players legs my looking at them

    immersion
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  28. Post #788
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    Guns, playermodels, gun anims, player anims. Even for F2P standards they're p bad, and this is a game that, according to a few pages back, will cost $60.

    I don't even like Day Z, but the mod has a military sandbox as a backbone while War Z has a mediocre arcade shooter. War Z will probably have more features and be user friendly but the former will have tons flocking to it just for the immersion factor.
    Even for F2P standards
    Kind of off topic, but "it's free" isn't a valid excuse for a game being shit. A game can be shit regardless of how much you pay.
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  29. Post #789
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    July 2010
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    95 new posts, think something exciting has happened but instead its you fuckers slapping each others dicks.


    no homo
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  30. Post #790
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    But it can handle a lot.

    War Inc.'s stability crumbles once 10 people shoot each other in the same vicinity. Imagine that but with hundreds of zombies.
    I'm sorry but are you, like, blind?

    Did you read what we said or do you think that your opinion is so right that you didn't even read?

    War Inc. = F2P Shooter, not too bad but not too good.
    The War Z = Completely different game, looks unique in its own way. It's also a MMO.
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  31. Post #791
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    I'm sorry but are you, like, blind?

    Did you read what we said or do you think that your opinion is so right that you didn't even read?

    War Inc. = F2P Shooter, not too bad but not too good.
    The War Z = Completely different game, looks unique in its own way. It's also a MMO.
    While I do agree with you, that's a very generous opinion of War Inc.
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  32. Post #792
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    While I do agree with you, that's a very generous opinion of War Inc.
    Haven't played it that much so i wanted to remain a bit neutral...
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  33. Post #793
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    Yes. In War Inc.

    Edited:


    Ok.
    we're trying to get hyped up over a potentially awesome game and you're shitting on our parade.

    in other words shut the fuck up.
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  34. Post #794
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    we're trying to get hyped up over a potentially awesome game and you're shitting on our parade.

    in other words shut the fuck up.
    It's not even that. He's making incredibly ignorant comments like he's a fucking dev.
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  35. Post #795
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    It's not even that. He's making incredibly ignorant comments like he's a fucking dev.
    How so?
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  36. Post #796
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    How so?
    Saying that animations and assets are being used from War Inc. without any definitive proof.
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  37. Post #797
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    Wow so much nerd rage in this thread.
    Im with you zeldar!
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  38. Post #798
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    Wow so much nerd rage in this thread.
    Im with you zeldar!
    You know you can just click "agree" and not have to state it, right?
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  39. Post #799
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    Wow so much nerd rage in this thread.
    Im with you zeldar!
    someone give this guy some lube because clearly he wants zeldars butthole.
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  40. Post #800
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    Saying that animations and assets are being used from War Inc. without any definitive proof.


    Well gee, that looks familiar..



    We established that they were reusing assets pages upon pages ago. If you wanna be hyped don't let me stop you, but I don't get why people are denying this.
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