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    Anaheim police have shot dead yet another man just a day after killing 24-year old Manuel Diaz. The previous day's shooting sparked a protest against police brutality that was violently broken up by authorities.
    Police say the second shooting took place on Sunday, when anti-gang crime officers spotted a stolen SUV and started chasing it. Three suspects were said to have jumped out of the SUV, with police continuing their pursuit on foot. The men reportedly opened fire at an officer, and the policeman retaliated by shooting dead one of the shooters.

    However, eyewitnesses say police shot dead a man who was already handcuffed, OC Weekly reports.

    Family friends told the Weekly that the victim was Joel Acevedo, a resident of Anaheim.
    Residents on the scene allegedly tried to take photos from a second floor of an apartment block, but police obscured their view with flash lights. The second alleged killing took place a few blocks away from the place where 24-year-old Manuel Diaz was gunned down by police on Saturday.

    In the wake of Diaz's death, roughly 200 people gathered to protest police brutality and pelted cops with bottles.
    Police attempted to break up the crowds firing beanbag rounds and tear gas. A shocking video of the riot shows women and children amongst the panicking demonstrator, fleeing for cover.
    Footage shows a police dog slipping from an officer’s hand and taking down one of the protesters and biting his arm before being brought under control.
    “They just released the dog, and I had my baby and my stroller,” resident Susan Lopez told local television channel KCAL.
    Demonstrations have raged in Anaheim since Saturday afternoon when Diaz died of his wounds after being shot by cops.
    On Sunday enraged protesters stormed the local police station amid chants of “no justice, no peace” and "cops, pigs, murderers."
    Two officers spotted three men, one of whom was Diaz, acting suspiciously in an alleyway, the police's account of the story says. The men tried to run from police, but one of the officers gave chase and fatally shot Diaz next to an apartment complex.
    A video showing the moments right after the shooting has emerged on YouTube. The video also shows that Diaz’s head was covered in blood, raising doubts about whether the police’s actions were justified. There have also been complaints online that police did not do enough to help the wounded Diaz, who apparently was still twitching at the beginning of the video.
    Source: [RT]
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    God damn america, fix your fucking police departments already.
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    Hey it sounds like a good idea to throw bottles at police officers guys.
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    Scary shit, I live pretty damn close to where this all happened.
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    The men reportedly opened fire at an officer, and the policeman retaliated by shooting dead one of the shooters.

    However, eyewitnesses say police shot dead a man who was already handcuffed
    Don't jump to conclusions, we don't really know what happened yet. As for the rubber bullets and tear gas, protestors were throwing bottles at them.
    I don't see anything wrong.
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    Use a real source instead of that RT shit

    http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/lano...-shooting.html
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    God damn america, fix your fucking police departments already.
    California =/= All of America.

    I don't doubt Police from other states suck ass too, but in California it seems like everything is corrupt.
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    There is a woman with a baby right next to the dog in the video. Left side, she is holding it kinda weird but you can see the legs.

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    California =/= All of America.

    I don't doubt Police from other states suck ass too, but in California it seems like everything is corrupt.
    This has happened in several states recently, your police training isn't doing a good enough job filtering out the people who go mad with power.
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    This has happened in several states recently, your police training isn't doing a good enough job filtering out the people who go mad with power.
    Again, I don't doubt it.

    Box me.
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    Have you even looked into the article Crimor?

    Let me give you the excerpt from the OP's article.

    Three suspects were said to have jumped out of the SUV, with police continuing their pursuit on foot. The men reportedly opened fire at an officer, and the policeman retaliated by shooting dead one of the shooters.
    The entire focal point of this would be this part.

    However, eyewitnesses say police shot dead a man who was already handcuffed, OC Weekly reports.
    Which I have looked at and now seen that it has been retracted from the OC Weekly article. Literally striken out.
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    Have you even looked into the article Crimor?

    Let me give you the excerpt from the OP's article.



    The entire focal point of this would be this part.



    Which I have looked at and now seen that it has been retracted from the OC Weekly article. Literally striken out.
    People will say anything to bash America's law enforcement.
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    This has happened in several states recently, your police training isn't doing a good enough job filtering out the people who go mad with power.
    "filtering out the people who go mad with power"


    Because there's totally a "I go mad with power" box that can be checked on the applications.

    It's impossible to honestly filter it out without giving each and every officer (Parole to Prison Guard) a complete psych evaluation, which would cost the taxpayers a ton, and would keep the police from doing their jobs.
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    Again, I don't doubt it.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Police_corruption

    Police corruption is a significant widespread problem in several countries, such as the United States of America, Russia, Ukraine, Brazil, India and Mexico.
    The problem is also prevalent in NYC http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Yor...and_misconduct

    Stop justifying this nonsense with the "its just a couple of bad apples guys!" argument. It contributes nothing but further sweeping under the rug scenarios and further corruption. With your mindset, nothing will ever get fixed and the problem will just keep growing.
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    Americans should react to shootings the way Norwegians does it. Instead of throwing bottles at cops in a fury they should huddle together on the streets and have a Bruce Springsteen concert
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    I consider myself lucky that I haven't ever even needed to speak to police. It's bad in Cali.
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    People will say anything to bash America's law enforcement.
    Honestly people only do this because the only American cops who get on the news are the ones deserving to be bashed, at least as far as I've seen. I like to think for every bad cop who abuses his power there are three good ones who do what they're supposed to do, the way they're supposed to do it. But of course they don't get the attention they deserve. Good cops almost never make good news stories.
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    Honestly people only do this because the only American cops who get on the news are the ones deserving to be bashed, at least as far as I've seen. I like to think for every bad cop who abuses his power there are three good ones who do what they're supposed to do, the way they're supposed to do it. But of course they don't get the attention they deserve. Good cops almost never make good news stories.
    Only time god cops ever make the news is when they wind up dead, which, what with how much people hate cops nowadays, is far too often.
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    Honestly people only do this because the only American cops who get on the news are the ones deserving to be bashed, at least as far as I've seen. I like to think for every bad cop who abuses his power there are three good ones who do what they're supposed to do, the way they're supposed to do it. But of course they don't get the attention they deserve. Good cops almost never make good news stories.
    Good cops dont make good news stories because good cops are doing their jobs. You dont need to give them a pat on the back for doing what they're being payed to do.

    Good cops dont magically justify the bad cops. It's time people realized this and stopped being apolgetic children who are afraid to admit police departments may have some flaws after all.
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    Honestly people only do this because the only American cops who get on the news are the ones deserving to be bashed, at least as far as I've seen. I like to think for every bad cop who abuses his power there are three good ones who do what they're supposed to do, the way they're supposed to do it. But of course they don't get the attention they deserve. Good cops almost never make good news stories.
    Exactly. You don't see me spewing shit out of my mouth about Europe's problems. Because I don't live there, and I don't know what it really is like. It's a simple concept; not arguing without facts and personal experience.

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    Good cops almost never make good news stories.
    No shit, the media won't make a dime of money by selling happy-go-lucky fuzzy warm stories of cops doing good, the only way the media will make money is by selling headlines of "AUTHORITY FUCKS UP AS USUAL!" because they know that it sells more.
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    Shooting someone who shoots you = police brutality

    Oh okay
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    I don't know about American police so I can't comment, but I know in England the institutional racism and corruption of the force in general is ridiculous
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    I don't know about American police so I can't comment, but I know in England the institutional racism and corruption of the force in general is ridiculous
    Wait, so you're telling me that America isn't the only place with law enforcement corruption? Preposterous!
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    Have you even looked into the article Crimor?

    Let me give you the excerpt from the OP's article.



    The entire focal point of this would be this part.



    Which I have looked at and now seen that it has been retracted from the OC Weekly article. Literally striken out.
    Yellow journalism at its finest.

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    Police corruption in the US is not a huge social problem like it is in Russia, Ukraine, Brazil, India, and Mexico.
    EDIT: Also I just noticed the wiki doesn't cite that at all.
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    Wait, so you're telling me that America isn't the only place with law enforcement corruption? Preposterous!
    I'm just saying that a lot of people use the bad apple thing in America and I don't know how it is there, but in England it's not so much the case of a bad apple than the case of a neglected orchard
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    Police corruption in US is not a huge social problem like it is in Russia, Ukraine, Brazil, India, and Mexico.
    america is the only nation state that matters doofus
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    RT posted:
    Anaheim police have shot dead yet another man just a day after killing 24-year old Manuel Diaz.
    Oh RT.
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    What's RT, why have I never heard of it, and why does everybody hate it?
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    What's RT, why have I never heard of it, and why does everybody hate it?
    Russia Today, they're known for having a very strong Anti-West bias, borderline conspiracy theory at times. They're like the Russian equivalent of Fox News.
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    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Police_corruption



    The problem is also prevalent in NYC http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Yor...and_misconduct

    Stop justifying this nonsense with the "its just a couple of bad apples guys!" argument. It contributes nothing but further sweeping under the rug scenarios and further corruption. With your mindset, nothing will ever get fixed and the problem will just keep growing.
    You don't live in the United States do you? You live in Israel. Your source is weak and just talking about NYC, what about the Hayward Sherrif's department? Minneapolis PD? Bozeman PD? Hmm? If you're that quick to generalize the police force of a country with 300 million+ people, then that's just weak.

    Edited:

    What's RT, why have I never heard of it, and why does everybody hate it?
    Fair and Balanced of Russia, kindly funded by the Kremlin.
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    This has happened in several states recently, your police training isn't doing a good enough job filtering out the people who go mad with power.
    You're very dense. Theres literally THOUSANDS of police officers in America. The majority of which are good people who only do good. The occasional story we here of things like this are isolated incidents. When they do good, no one notices, but when they do bad, they're crucified. Don't try and make it out like every cop in the US is a terrible person.
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    You're very dense. Theres literally THOUSANDS of police officers in America. The majority of which are good people who only do good. The occasional story we here of things like this are isolated incidents. When they do good, no one notices, but when they do bad, they're crucified. Don't try and make it out like every cop in the US is a terrible person.
    Pretty much, if you listed up all the corrupt cops who've been exposed in the past ten years, you'd probably have less people than the staff of a single police department, of a single town, of a single state.

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    Russia Today, they're known for having a very strong Anti-West bias, borderline conspiracy theory at times. They're like the Russian equivalent of Fox News.
    And they have funding from the Kremlin
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    You're very dense. Theres literally THOUSANDS of police officers in America. The majority of which are good people who only do good. The occasional story we here of things like this are isolated incidents. When they do good, no one notices, but when they do bad, they're crucified. Don't try and make it out like every cop in the US is a terrible person.
    I think the point that he was trying to make was that we should be striving to stop these occasional incidents, somehow, even if they do happen once per thousands.

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    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Police_corruption



    The problem is also prevalent in NYC http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Yor...and_misconduct

    Stop justifying this nonsense with the "its just a couple of bad apples guys!" argument. It contributes nothing but further sweeping under the rug scenarios and further corruption. With your mindset, nothing will ever get fixed and the problem will just keep growing.

    You're putting words in my mouth. Are you fucking serious?

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    And they have funding from the Kremlin
    Yup, government owned, the Cold War is alive and well.

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    Shooting someone who shoots you = police brutality

    Oh okay
    I never get it with stories like this. If the police do anything more than say "Hey stop that" to someone whos spitting, fighting and cursing, or in this case someone who was possibly shooting at them they end up getting charged with police brutality. It's a bit bullshit, I think.
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    I never get it with stories like this. If the police do anything more than say "Hey stop that" to someone whos spitting, fighting and cursing, or in this case someone who was possibly shooting at them they end up getting charged with police brutality. It's a bit bullshit, I think.
    The issue isn't this though, everyone is protesting because they viewed officers shoot a handcuffed criminal.

    News Story posted:
    However, eyewitnesses say police shot dead a man who was already handcuffed, OC Weekly reports.
    This isn't a totalitarian country. If someone is arrested they're to be given their legal right to jury by peers, not a quick and hasty end to something that was possibly, but not likely in this case, a complete fuck up.