[Bobie]

these videos are funny for a minute or two then its kinda depressing when you think about what her life's actually like

[Super Muffin]

Shoulda put that shoe on her head.

[J!NX]

Clementine posted:

No, I literally think people who find this funny don't realize what they're doing, they think its funny to bully some woman about her weight, something so many people are self conscious about, they think its funny to watch her be so fucking upset that she is incoherent and screaming and crying.

Fucking disgusting pathetic bullies.

rofl WHTEVER FAGGOT xD WOW AHAHA _imhorrible

[Loriborn]

I don't deny she probably had some crap issues in her life, but the moment you let random strangers on the internet dictate your emotions, that's the moment you could have prevented. We don't know what her life has been until now, but I highly doubt it's awful enough that she could not have just thought out "let me ignore the jerks" or "maybe I should unplug my webcam because I'm not emotionally ready to be naked in front of strangers." She's a victim, yes, but a victim of her own naivety, and us laughing at it won't change anything, so let people who find it funny laugh.

Again, if you're willing to literally whore your body out to strangers for money on the internet, you've got to be mentally mature enough to handle it. She wasn't, and this happened.

[Zedramus]

Loriborn posted:

No one here is defending them. Not a single person. Like I said, you personally may not find it funny, but other people do. Sitting here asking us how we find it funny, or how we can live with ourselves for finding it funny isn't going to fix the problem or stop it from happening. It's not going to stop us from finding it funny either. Humour is subjective, and you can't change that. So if you don't find it funny, move on, because arguing over what is and isn't hilarious is just going to be a long and drawn out argument that leads to nothing.

Like I said, if she's done this before, and she knows the insults occur, why does she continue to do it? Why does she do it if she knows it leads to bad situations? If she hasn't done it before, and this was her first time, then she should have been ready for the reactions that would have happened when you show your body to strangers over the internet. No one here is 100% free of blame, because this whole issue could have been avoided. The one thing that can't be avoided, is the way anonymous people act on the internet, so you prepare for it. If this is how worked up she gets when strangers call her fat, she doesn't have the emotional stability to go into prostitution/cam whoring/ or whatever, either for money or better self image.

I know you're probably not singling me out, because I've made only one post in this thread with the sole purpose of trying to get others to see this from a different perspective.

Although what Clementine said on the first page wasn't exactly tactful, he has a point. It's possible that some people who find this funny don't exactly realize that they're encouraging the abuse of someone else. I never questioned how you can live with yourself for finding it funny, and if my wording made it seem that way I apologize.

I did not say people were straight up defending her, nor did I mean that. When I say "almost defending", I mean things like

a cam whore calling the viewers horrible people LOL

as if there was some sort irony I'm missing, or

She's be a self loathing double standard bitch.

like the poster KNOWS she hurls emotional abuse at others, and yet expects none to come her way.

Yeah, I could have chosen a better way to phrase it, I know. And arguing about humour is useless, that much is obvious. What I was trying to bring up was why people here are being terrible when they have no need or reason to be.

[Loriborn]

It's not like she can see our posts, so who is it hurting to be "terrible people"? No one has downright insulted her, just stated that she is majorly to blame for the situation. It's a victimless crime and honestly, you're arguing morals.

People are jerks. There are a lot of people who are even bigger jerks when they're on the internet. You can't change that.

[Tetsmega]

Zedramus posted:

Although what Clementine said on the first page wasn't exactly tactful, he has a point. It's possible that some people who find this funny don't exactly realize that they're encouraging the abuse of someone else. I never questioned how you can live with yourself for finding it funny, and if my wording made it seem that way I apologize.

Here's a good analogy for those people saying she deserved it. She's in a room with poison gas, and the gas is the insults. Her first breath of the gas is painful, and yet she stays there trying to breathe it.

I don't think "deserved it" would be the proper choice of words, but "had it coming" would seem right.

[TheStateTrooper]

i love the one comment

"mmmm keep talking dirty"
as shes crying about how her life is ruined because of her boyfriend

[dark soul]

I don't understand how people can feel bad for stupid people. No one forced her to sit in front of camera and strip her dignity away for money. I'm not going to show any respect to someone that can't even show respect for themselves. I will laugh, I will laugh at her stupidity to get upset at such a trivial thing and put herself in such a situation. A situation that I would never be stupid enough to put myself in.

[Pridit]

What actually got her so pissed off? Apart from one "you cunt" at the beginning it seemed fairly neutral.

[Zedramus]

Tetsmega posted:

Here's a good analogy for those people saying she deserved it. She's in a room with poison gas, and the gas is the insults. Her first breath of the gas is painful, and yet she stays there trying to breathe it.

I don't think "deserved it" would be the proper choice of words, but "had it coming" would seem right.

I'm sorry, but I don't agree with your analogy. As I mentioned earlier, we know nothing of her situation. What if she needed the money, and didn't see any other option? What if she has been insulted before, but managed to take it lightly enough and the stint pays pretty well, except this time she had a terrible day and had a fight with her roommate about bills or something? I mean she did end up composing herself relatively well near the end. To refer to your analogy, the poison gas may just be mildly toxic, just on that night someone took a shit in the ventilation system.

Loriborn posted:

It's not like she can see our posts, so who is it hurting to be "terrible people"? No one has downright insulted her, just stated that she is majorly to blame for the situation. It's a victimless crime and honestly, you're arguing morals.

People are jerks. There are a lot of people who are even bigger jerks when they're on the internet. You can't change that.

True, it may not be hurting anyone, but I still wonder why for some people here the immediate reaction was not to try empathize with the victim.

People may be jerks, but as to changing that, I'm not so apathetic. We can at least bring reprehensible behavior into the light, to hopefully encourage other people not to be the same.

[Loriborn]

Zedramus posted:

I'm sorry, but I don't agree with your analogy. As I mentioned earlier, we know nothing of her situation. What if she needed the money, and didn't see any other option? What if she has been insulted before, but managed to take it lightly enough and the stint pays pretty well, except this time she had a terrible day and had a fight with her roommate about bills or something? I mean she did end up composing herself relatively well near the end. To refer to your analogy, the poison gas may just be mildly toxic, just on that night someone took a shit in the ventilation system.



True, it may not be hurting anyone, but I still wonder why for some people here the immediate reaction was not to try empathize with the victim.

People may be jerks, but as to changing that, I'm not so apathetic. We can at least bring reprehensible behavior into the light, to hopefully encourage other people not to be the same.

Except she had the money to afford dildos and sex toys, as well as a laptop. While I don't doubt it's possible she's in a financial crunch, there are a huge majority of other options before resorting to cam-whoring. If, for some reason, this was her only option, then she should have been able to handle the emotional stress surrounding it. If she is so sensitive to the insults of strangers, then she needs to find another way to make money.

[BuDSpOoNce]

Clementine posted:

No, I literally think people who find this funny don't realize what they're doing, they think its funny to bully some woman about her weight, something so many people are self conscious about, they think its funny to watch her be so fucking upset that she is incoherent and screaming and crying.

Fucking disgusting pathetic bullies.

i bet ur fat

[Vedicardi]

this is a pretty funny video

[TrannyAlert]

Pridit posted:

What actually got her so pissed off? Apart from one "you cunt" at the beginning it seemed fairly neutral.

I think people were like private messaging her.

[Clementine]

BuDSpOoNce posted:

i bet ur fat

150 pounds 5'10, no

[FpShepard]

Looked her up on youjizz live cams

apparently her last performance was at Thu, Aug 2, 1:30 PM so she didn't quit.

Also

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What Turns Me On
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[Laferio]

philosophical/moral debate about some lady crying over a camera.

stay classy facepunch.

[SpartanXC9]

I feel terrible for her but I did find the comments funny.

[Bert the Turtle]

Clementine posted:

I literally can't believe it, I thought FP had intelligent members, people who understood the difference between poking fun at people and going too far. People who were somewhat kind, or at least understanding. I suppose, however, this thread has shown me that either there are none of those members left, or they just aren't here. I don't understand why everyone would defend a little kid from being bullied like this, but when its someone who has had to resort to semi-prostitution, its totally okay. I wish you guys would give me a logical and coherent argument as to why she deserved this, or why you actually laughed at something as terribly aggressive and mean as this. But I suppose, like I said, there are no intelligent members left.

[fixture]

lol I cannot believe Clementine is comparing a working adult with responsibilities to an innocent child being bullied

from the posts I've seen it's like he must be the most sensitive man on the internet

[Montroze]

You know Clementine, its funny how on this thread you try standing up for some poor women who gets made fun of on the internet.



But go apeshit on another thread when someone counts a dog amongst the list of fatalities that a shooter has killed.



Fuck dogs, they don't show their tits on the internet.

[TheTalon]

That's chubby, if you can even call it that. Chubbers can be pretty hot

[Kabstrac]

VaSTinY posted:

Wow really
is your memory that bad

http://facepunch.com/showthread.php?...1#post36949385
Before you start going apeshit about the "wishing death" part, that is meant to be sarcasm if you couldn't tell.
You then proceed to keep saying "ew how disgusting he likes kittens more than humans ew"
Just like that other thread regarding kittens

Man I wish I could find your older post about "how disgusting it was that people value kittens more than their fellow humans" to prove how much of an ass you don't seem to realize you are when ""arguing"" with people

or how about how Clementine doesn't count 2 dogs that were murdered as victims

[TheTalon]

Haha

*Emotional Breakdown*
How much for private?

[reecematee]

well this thread was one giant over reaction.

Edited:

I've never heard a woman scream that loud before.

[Kabstrac]

reecematee posted:

well this thread was one giant over reaction.

Edited:

I've never heard a woman scream that loud before.

neither has the microphone



neither has the microphone.....

[dannass]

Clementine posted:

No? I have to be someone to understand how much pain they're in? Fucking kidding me?

I also know that pain, but jesus christ, it's some random camhore on the INTERNET getting bullied by unknown people. Fuck..

[Macneil_bmx]

Clementine posted:

No, I literally think people who find this funny don't realize what they're doing, they think its funny to bully some woman about her weight, something so many people are self conscious about, they think its funny to watch her be so fucking upset that she is incoherent and screaming and crying.

Fucking disgusting pathetic bullies.

Yeah true that but anybody can talk smack behind a computer. You just have to be a stupid person to actually get offended by whatever they say. It just fuels the fire.

[megafat]

She didn't deserve to be called fat.

End. Of. Story.

[geoface]

I'm lovin all the white knights coming to this cam whore's rescue

A girl with her tits on display getting abuse? HOLD THE FUCKING PHONE, TIME TO WHITE KNIGHT

[Kondor58]

I didn't think people actually got mad at trolls lol

[laylay]

SatansSin posted:

Ohh boo fuckity whooo.

She's camwhoring herself out for people's MONEY. She has too learn to take a hit and miss. She didn't have to react that way. She's be a self loathing double standard bitch.

What's so wrong with camwhoring? It's still a job.

[geoface]

laylay posted:

I personally don't like bullies.

I don't like bullies either, but coming to the rescue of a cam whore, you're just messin bout, seriously.
Why do you demand the respect of cam whores? like the name itself, they're whores...these people have no respect for themselves.


oooh, and you removed what i quoted, nice.

[rediem]

I show myself nude & do anal for money, but no, no escort, that abuses me.

[laylay]

geoface posted:

I don't like bullies either, but coming to the rescue of a cam whore, you're just messin bout, seriously.
Why do you demand the respect of cam whores? like the name itself, they're whores...these people have no respect for themselves.


oooh, and you removed what i quoted, nice.

Because it offered nothing to the thread.

[darth-veger]

Kondor58 posted:

I didn't think people actually got mad at trolls lol

Check my profile, he is like the king of the white-knights of the round table

[Pilotguy97]

So in summary:

Essential prostitute get's called fat, and instead of arguing back or even simply ignoring, she has a full mental breakdown and thinks too deeply about it, falling for what was presumably the tamest insult on the internet ever. Ends up ruining reputation, missing out on pay and entertaining her audience nonetheless.

Now I'm in no position to judge, but there's new to digital business and then there's freshly-fertilized-zygote new to digital business.

[Woutsie]

hahahah "keep talking dirty mmmmm" when she started CRYIN

[ragawaga]

wat her name :)