You shouldn't need guns to overthrow a government who is acting against the benefit of the people, that is what democratic elections are for.
They aren't the same thing, but a human body won't really care what each bullet looks like when shot.
Oh damnit kartoffel.
ITT people from the rest of the world aren't cool with the right to bear arms.
and then suddenly it's a bunch of dudes who are actually educated on weapons
man you guys should see page one, it was filled with retards
But really though seeing how bipolar people are in this thread is astounding. People don't understand guns, and how it usually plays out is people are scared of what they don't understand.
Daemon made a good point early on, the problem with firearm related crimes is not gun control related.
I personally indulge my "obsession" with firearms through airsoft as they're much less lethal and still moderately fun to shoot, but I do own a M91/30 and I would like to build my own AR15 sometime in the next 20 years. Firearms are no less of a hobby than model trains or jerking off, and those of us who see it as a hobby should not be unfairly punished due to the actions of those who improperly use firearms.
Also the tasers/stunguns that are legal to carry in most states require direct contact to work; to which see above.
.22LR and .223Rem can't be compared, they have VERY different properties; one usually uses low speed, very low weight, rounded unjacketed lead bullets. the other most of the time uses very high velocity jacketed bullets.
there's a reason one is used for grouse and the other for deer.
(PS: .22LR has a bullet diameter of .222", .223 Rem .224" :))
Wait, my mom has a taser and we're texan. though she did get it from working with animal control. But now she doesn't but still has one.
To be honest, anyone with access to Wal-Mart, the Home Depot, and the Internet can make a functioning gun and ammo for it. Guns back in the day took so long to make/perfect due to a lack of tools. In the modern day, 10 year olds in Pakistan's Khyber Pass make AK-47s for the Taliban. Tell me what kind of gun control can stop that? None, you simply can't, and the same could be said if such operations opened up elsewhere, if they're guarded by a well-armed enough band of insurgents and stationed in a natural choke point, which could happen at many places in Utah or even Northern Ontario, then you'll never stop them making guns.
Now that the gun is here, no matter what some deluded people seem to think, it cannot and will not go away. The planet cannot get rid of guns, there will forever be guns on into the future, they will not go away. Focusing on the gun is stupid and futile, you need to focus on the cause of the crime, rather than the means it was committed, or what it was committed with, if you want to have a hope of actually reducing gun crime.
(PS: I fire them both on a regular basis)
guns don't kill people
people kill people
Even the army is pissed at the .223, because it doesn't kill well enough. Those who've been in long enough to remember the guns in .308 wish they could have them back because they'd actually put a person down.
This site used to be way more anti-control.
It makes no sense to me how a liberal ideology would support the banning individual ownership of anything.