1. Post #1
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    Dennab
    June 2008
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    The company was today widely criticised after a Sydney fireman reported his experience of being asked to swap seats because he was sat beside two unaccompanied boys.
    It strips away all the good that any male does regardless of his standing in society, his profession or his moral attitudes

    After this morning defending its policy, the airline this afternoon announced via Twitter it was reviewing its stance.
    "We understand the concerns raised around our policy for children travelling alone, a long-standing policy initially based on customer feedback," @VirginAustralia said.
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    "In light of recent feedback, we're now reviewing this policy. Our intention is certainly not to discriminate in any way."
    A Virgin spokeswoman said the policy was shared by Qantas, Jetstar and Air New Zealand.
    Earlier today Fairfax Media reported the story of Johnny McGirr, 33, who said he was flying home from Brisbane in April when he took his seat next to two boys he estimated to be aged between eight and 10.
    He was assigned the window seat but sat in the aisle seat so the two boys could look out the window.
    However, a flight attendant approached him just as passengers were asked to put on their seatbelts, asking him to move.
    Mr McGirr said when he asked why, he was told, "Well you can't sit next to two unaccompanied minors."
    "She said it was the policy and I said, 'Well, that's pretty sexist and discriminatory. You can't just say because I'm a man I can't sit there,' and she just apologised and said that was the policy.
    "By this stage everyone around me had started looking."
    Mr McGirr said the attendant then asked a fellow female passenger, "Can you please sit in this seat because he is not allowed to sit next to minors."
    "After that I got really embarrassed because she didn't even explain. I just got up and shook my head a little, trying to get some dignity out of the situation," he said.
    "And that was it. I pretty much sat through the flight getting angrier."
    Mr McGirr pointed out that he works as a fireman in Newtown in Sydney and was trusted in his job to look out for the welfare of children.
    "[The attitude of the airline] is 'we respect you but as soon as you board a Virgin airline you are a potential paedophile', and that strips away all the good that any male does regardless of his standing in society, his profession or his moral attitudes," he said.
    A spokeswoman for Virgin Australia this morning confirmed the policy and said while the airline did not want to offend male passengers, its priority was the safety of children.
    "In our experience, most guests thoroughly understand that the welfare of the child is our priority," she said.
    The spokeswoman said staff usually tried to keep the seat empty but, when that was not possible, a woman was seated next to the child.
    "Virgin Australia takes the safety of all guests very seriously and, in the case of unaccompanied minors, we take additional steps to ensure their flight is safe and trouble free in every respect."
    Mr McGirr, who wrote to Virgin to complain, said the policy was flawed.
    "[It's] blatant discrimination that just because I'm a male I can't sit there," he said.
    "They apologised that it happened on the flight and said it shouldn't have happened then but my issue is not with the mistakes made there; my issue is with the policy in general.
    "The majority of sexual assaults are [also] committed by men. Does that mean that we can't sit next to women? Should we just have a seat by ourselves and that way women and children will be protected?"
    Mr McGirr said he understood the children were vulnerable when not with an adult but said that fears about crimes committed by a small minority of people should not rule society.
    Mr McGirr said Virgin should either allocate a chaperone for children to sit with them for the entire flight, have staff do regular checks on the children to see if they were all right or ask parents to purchase the seat that is vacant so it is always left empty.
    Among other Australian airlines, budget carriers Jetstar and Tiger Airways do not accept unaccompanied minors on their flights, though the two airlines have different definitions of what constitutes a minor.
    Qantas, which does allow unaccompanied minors over the age of five to travel on its flights, has not returned calls requesting information on its policy on seating male passengers next to unaccompanied children.
    Online outcry
    Criticism of the airline swelled online today, with the story attracting more than 700 comments across Fairfax Media news sites by 4pm.

    More than 44,000 readers nationwide responded to an online poll asking whether the airline’s policy was fair, with 87 per cent agreeing the rule was ‘‘sexist and suggests all men are potential pedophiles’’.
    Twitter users were quick to voice their poor opinion of the policy under the hashtag #VirginDiscrimination, while Facebook users also responded with criticism.
    One person wrote on Virgin Australia's Facebook page: ‘‘As a male school teacher, it saddens me that men are turned away from being a positive role model for children, because people have the attitude ‘male = potential molester’.’’
    Another Facebook user wrote the policy was ‘‘disgracefully discriminatory’’, while another user said it was a ‘‘stupid load of nonsense’’ that insulted half the country’s population.
    However, some on Facebook jumped to the airline’s defence, with one mother saying she appreciated the policy.
    ‘‘I do recall once at check-in the seats being changed around so that my children were not seated beside a man. But it was done very discretely [sic] and you know what, as a mum I was comfortable with the decision,’’ she wrote.

    While Virgin Australia was adamant that it was not alone in implementing such a policy, Qantas has not responded to repeated attempts to clarify its position from Fairfax Media today.

    However, the BBC reported Qantas and Air New Zealand had a similar policy in 2005, after a businessman successfully sued British Airways on the grounds of sex discrimination after he was moved away from an unaccompanied child on a flight.
    - with Marissa Calligeros


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  2. Post #2
    As a wise man once said: Never ask Fatfatfatty for computer advice
    Dennab
    March 2009
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    This is getting ridiculous
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  3. Post #3
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    Dennab
    February 2007
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    So women can't be pedophiles too?

    How misogynist, I'm never flying with them EVER.
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    This is retarded.
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  5. Post #5
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    Dennab
    September 2010
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    A child would be a terrible fuck. They'd be way too goddamn tight and they'd fucking cry about it.

    (User was banned for this post ("Dumb creepy joke" - Craptasket))
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  6. Post #6
    Hullu V3's Avatar
    October 2009
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    A+++ solution right there.

    Why not castrate every male before the flight while were at it?

    Just to be sure.

    Edited:

    A child would be a terrible fuck. They'd be way too goddamn tight and they'd fucking cry about it.
    I'm sorry, what?
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  7. Post #7
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    Dennab
    February 2007
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    A child would be a terrible fuck. They'd be way too goddamn tight and they'd fucking cry about it.
    Uuuuh

    UUUUUUUUUUUH
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  8. Post #8
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    Dennab
    September 2010
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    That's called dark humor. I'm using a realistic approach to a sensative and mostly offtopic subject and am citing completely wrong reasons as to why you shouldn't molest children.

    I explained the joke. Have a nice day.
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  9. Post #9
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    Dennab
    February 2007
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    I thought you just fucked up your sentence really bad when trying to say "Sitting next to a child is terrible as fuck, their parents are way too goddamn tight and they would cry about something or other"
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    Heh, a friend of mine asked "What do single dads do?"
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    Dennab
    September 2010
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    Of course not. I was saying how children would be terrible as sex partners because theyre well, children. But, I guess the freaks who molest them are more into the power they feel doing the act, rather than any sexual feeling.
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    This is blatant sex discrimination. It doesn't matter what their "good intentions" were, it's a fucking double standard.
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    That's called dark humor. I'm using a realistic approach to a sensative and mostly offtopic subject and am citing completely wrong reasons as to why you shouldn't molest children.

    I explained the joke. Have a nice day.
    3/10 gave in too quick
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  14. Post #14
    I do it all
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    November 2010
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    I flew on Virgin Australia once in 2007 (which was called virgin blues)

    The landing blew my fucking ears, like my ears were stinging from the pops and my grandma was feeling sick

    A good trip to Sydney ended in a bad way
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  15. Post #15
    Hullu V3's Avatar
    October 2009
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    Better solution:

    Board adults and children into two separate planes! That way women nor men can not molest them.
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    Dennab
    September 2010
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    I had to. People get confused at absurdism.
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    Hullu V3's Avatar
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    I had to. People get confused at absurdism.
    Or at bad jokes.
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    gra

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    it's funny how mad all of you guys are getting about this when women are discriminated against, in ways that are extremely worse than switching seats on a plane, every day.
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    I had to. People get confused at absurdism.
    You know you don't have to explain it, right?
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    Hullu V3's Avatar
    October 2009
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    it's funny how mad all of you guys are getting about this when women are discriminated against, in ways that are extremely worse than switching seats on a plane, every day.
    What the fuck has that to do with anything?
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  21. Post #21
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    Dennab
    February 2007
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    I had to. People get confused at absurdism.
    Why are you even explaining the joke

    If people got confused that easily we'd all be at war with eachother because someone made a pun around the President and he got confused and declared war on Finland.

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    May 2007
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    Better solution:

    Board adults and children into two separate planes! That way women nor men can not molest them.
    Well then we'll have to use children pilots and staff too. I mean how can you trust the crew from hog tieing all the children and having a massive gang rape?

    In reality, this reminds me of that episode of South Park where the parents get afraid all their children will be sexually assaulted so they build a replica of the Great Wall of China all around the town.
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    Dennab
    September 2007
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    Why are you even explaining the joke

    If people got confused that easily we'd all be at war with eachother because someone made a pun around the President and he got confused and declared war on Finland.
    some people on here are really dumb sometimes
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    Hullu V3's Avatar
    October 2009
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    Well then we'll have to use children pilots and staff too. I mean how can you trust the crew from hog tieing all the children and having a massive gang rape?

    In reality, this reminds me of that episode of South Park where the parents get afraid all their children will be sexually assaulted so they build a replica of the Great Wall of China all around the town.
    Damn, you're right.

  25. Post #25
    Kljunas's Avatar
    August 2011
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    That's retarded. Did they think he could rape them during the flight or what?

  26. Post #26
    I make sexist and racist jokes all the time yet,i still support the feminist movement and the rights of blacks.
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    Wow we really went from equality to female supremacy...
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    it's funny how mad all of you guys are getting about this when women are discriminated against, in ways that are extremely worse than switching seats on a plane, every day.
    This is worse than just switching seats. It's the fact that men have to switch seats because they are already assumed pedophiles. It's a terrible generalization to do.
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    Looks like in the end all that modern media accomplishes is making us paranoid as fuck.
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  29. Post #29
    This probably isn't a good idea
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    October 2007
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    Well then we'll have to use children pilots and staff too. I mean how can you trust the crew from hog tieing all the children and having a massive gang rape?

    In reality, this reminds me of that episode of South Park where the parents get afraid all their children will be sexually assaulted so they build a replica of the Great Wall of China all around the town.
    Have the pilot welded into the cockpit, then have him fly the plane into a live volcano, ejecting out before the plane hits, leaving the children secure from molestation in a sheet of molten rock.
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    If clothing didn't exist and everyone walked around with their penises fully erect I would have all the bitches.
    ROFLBURGER's Avatar
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    it's funny how mad all of you guys are getting about this when women are discriminated against, in ways that are extremely worse than switching seats on a plane, every day.
    But the women are being victimized by idiots, not by major Companies.
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    That's called dark humor. I'm using a realistic approach to a sensative and mostly offtopic subject and am citing completely wrong reasons as to why you shouldn't molest children.

    I explained the joke. Have a nice day.
    Problem is that quite a few pedophiles actually like them to cry, which makes it quite sad, not funny.

    Edited:

    What I don't get, to, is who would ever try to molest unfamiliar children on a plane which is enclosed and without escape routes.

    The kid would peep once and the guy would probably get his ass handed to him on the spot, plus the police would be waiting for him on the airport.
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  32. Post #32
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    Dennab
    September 2007
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    they should just destroy the planes before they land so no one can molest anyone and no one grows up to do the same

    Edited:

    Problem is that quite a few pedophiles actually like them to cry, which makes it quite sad, not funny.

    Edited:

    What I don't get, to, is who would ever try to molest unfamiliar children on a plane which is enclosed and without escape routes.

    The kid would peep once and the guy would probably get his ass handed to him on the spot, plus the police would be waiting for him on the airport.
    desperate people do desperate things
    i mean, why do people masturbate in a highschool bathroom?
    i don't know but i guess they have to or something
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    December 2006
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    Good, maybe I won't have to listen to the loud fuckers.

  34. Post #34
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    For some reason I find it hard to picture a man working for this company and helping with the descision. He'd probably think "I am a potential pedophile and a terrible person. I must save the children while I can!"
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    If clothing didn't exist and everyone walked around with their penises fully erect I would have all the bitches.
    ROFLBURGER's Avatar
    May 2009
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    I had to. People get confused at absurdism.
    That joke was beyond absurdism into the labyrinth of completely distasteful.
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    A child would be a terrible fuck. They'd be way too goddamn tight and they'd fucking cry about it.
    You say that like it's a bad thing!
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  37. Post #37
    Whats gonna happen next? Men can sit near women because all men are potential rapists?

  38. Post #38
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    November 2006
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    Whats gonna happen next? Men can sit near women because all men are potential rapists?
    There are people out there who actually believe this. Let that sink in a moment.
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    There are people out there who actually believe this. Let that sink in a moment.
    I've been around long enough not to be suprised by some peoples beliefs
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    August 2011
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    Wow we really went from equality to female supremacy...
    I think you're overestimating it a bit. it's not like everyone's parading this around as the truth and castrating people in the streets. one airliner being misandrist does not equal women the whole world over chopping people's dicks off and going all straw feminist.
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