Bias matters completely. There is a reason we use the jury process for determining guilt in crimes.
We're arguing that you're holding a certain position based on the fact that you enjoyed somebody's music. Even if he made popular music, his killer shouldn't have to stay in prison longer than someone who killed the average Joe. He appears to be reformed, so we're saying let him have parole.
So punish someone because they hate him?
Let me try this: You should stay in the refugee camp because everyone in this thread is crazy enough to kill you.
See how flawed the logic there is?
Give him a new name and identity if you have to, but don't punish him. He's reformed, that's justice.
First, we move Chapman to prison's "general population" if he's not already there. Because if he's been in a single person cell for this whole time, I don't think having no infractions for 18 years or whatever is really any proof he's ready to come back (because how would he "cause an infraction" if there's nobody to attack?).
Now, if he maintains good behavior when with most everyone else in the prison, then I say he's fine and he should come out.
im still convinced he'll at least be attacked now and then though
have you seen fanatical john lennon fans
they're fucking crazy
Yes. If a court system deems him fit as a member of society, I won't use that as a reason to keep him out of my home.
I'm a beatles fan and I still say that he should go free, he served his time and is better now for it.
That's what prisons are for, reforming people.
If you kill Justin Bieber, One Direction and Lady Gaga within the next 72 hours, you can go free and labels get the idea that we don't want terrible music.
It's been 32 fucking years, the people who wanted Chapman dead to the point they even put bounties on his head have very likely decided to move on.
And Yoko Ono is a dumb bitch for wanting this man to stay in prison for the rest of his life. If she's so afraid she can always request a restraining order on him and hire a few bodyguards.
Personally I don't feel any sympathy for the guy, he murdered a peaceful person just because they were a celebrity. Really don't care what happens to him but I certainly don't wish him to be released, he murdered a human being who didn't do anything, of course he's going to regret it after the fact, does not mean he's excused for his actions.
And only after you look back with hindsight do you say, oh fuck.
You're severely underestimating the insanity that every fanbase has. Obviously a vast majority of anything's fanbase is going to be normal, but there will always be those few that would want him dead and be so crazy as to go through with it.
you just debunked your own argument, good job
honestly her earlier work seems silly compared to the stuff on her latest album.
it's an acquired taste though.
This makes zero sense. Either the person is thinking "I murdered someone. That was bad. I should not have done that and will not do it again." or they're thinking "Murder is justifiable because I wanted that person dead for [INSERT REASON HERE], I'm finally out and can do that again if I see fit."
He's probably not going to get released and then go kill another person. How does that mean we should release him? He targeted a celebrity he wanted dead and then did it. I don't think we should be encouraging the idea that if you want someone dead you can just go ahead and do it and serve a set period of time like it's some kind of price to pay.
Earlier you stated that you were for the rehabilitation system, then you immediately said it didn't always work. Then what makes one case valid and the other one invalid ? How is that one man less eligible for rehabilitation than any other criminal that served their time (and even did about 12 extra years in his case) ? There is no reason to keep him behind bars.
You just want the man to stay in prison because you are hating him for the murder of a man you were not even alive to know back when he was killed, and you invent petty excuses to justify your bias such as "he may try to hurt Lennon's family" or "people may try to take revenge on him" or the all-so-dumb "you never know".
Grow the fuck up.
And stop with the absurd analogies seriously
In fact I would kill for that opportunity. Lions are fucking adorable.
So if I want a politician/celebrity dead and have 20-30 years to kill, I can just go out and shoot them? That's good to know.