1. Post #41
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    Meller Yeller's Avatar
    June 2010
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    I don't trust them either, but I'd still be interested to know if there's actually anything to this or not.
    I'd like to see something that at least supports or disproves it before casting it aside.

    Oh well, I'm a FPer so I guess I'll just rate box and complain about Glaber
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  2. Post #42
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    Libertarian garbage as per usual.
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  3. Post #43
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    zerothefallen's Avatar
    March 2010
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    Why the fuck does Glaber ever post? It's like this every time.

  4. Post #44
    Governor Goblin's Avatar
    December 2011
    2,782 Posts
    My mom works at a hospital and she says all of the strict rules and the large amount of documents everyone has to fill out to get compensated with Obamacare makes the job a lot more difficult than it used to be. One little screw up when filling out a form could be the difference between a penalty or not.
    So is half a million other things that have existed since before your mother was born, welcome to the wonderful world of medical field red tape.

    Edited:

    It sounds like that, but you also have to take senior health into account. Seniors are more vulnerable to health issues then younger people like us and thus may need more attention. Penalizing the hospitals they go to will just make things worse for them.
    I don't think you understand how this works.

  5. Post #45
    I once worked at a sperm bank, the food was terrible
    The Baconator's Avatar
    April 2011
    9,089 Posts
    there's a difference between aiding a political viewpoint and having political bias. fox news' very foundations are bias; and it's pretty well known that fox corporation is a major supporter of right-wing propaganda.
    Fox News was created by a bitter member of the Nixon Administration. It was reporters after all that caused Watergate to happen, so he wanted to never let the media expose something against a Republican again by creating a counter-media

    He still runs Fox News to this day
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  6. Post #46
    I love liberals, they make me so fucking hard I just want to cum all over the place while fucking a pony.
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    January 2008
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    I don't think you understand how this works.
    Oh? So tell me then. If you know how it works, why withhold information?

    As far as I can tell, Seniors are more vulnerable and need to see doctors more often. Sometimes having to see them more than once a month. Now If the health care provider (Actual provider of care, not insurance) is penalized for their patient coming to them multiple times within a 30 day period, wouldn't that deter them from caring for the senior patient?
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  7. Post #47
    Governor Goblin's Avatar
    December 2011
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    Oh? So tell me then. If you know how it works, why withhold information?

    As far as I can tell, Seniors are more vulnerable and need to see doctors more often. Sometimes having to see them more than once a month. Now If the health care provider (Actual provider of care, not insurance) is penalized for their patient coming to them multiple times within a 30 day period, wouldn't that deter them from caring for the senior patient?
    If you can somehow prove to me that any of this causes crippling problems to seniors, problems that are unequivocally more harmful then living in a healthcare system that trades life for money, then you can tell me that this is a legitimate problem.

  8. Post #48
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    October 2006
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    Only unbiased sources should be allowed here, like Daily Kos and addictinginfo.
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  9. Post #49
    I once worked at a sperm bank, the food was terrible
    The Baconator's Avatar
    April 2011
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    Only unbiased sources should be allowed here, like Daily Kos and addictinginfo.
    I've been against those being used for sources too

    Huffington Post is some tabloid-like piece of shit 99% of the time unless it has the story first

  10. Post #50
    This probably isn't a good idea
    Camundongo's Avatar
    October 2007
    3,371 Posts
    Oh? So tell me then. If you know how it works, why withhold information?

    As far as I can tell, Seniors are more vulnerable and need to see doctors more often. Sometimes having to see them more than once a month. Now If the health care provider (Actual provider of care, not insurance) is penalized for their patient coming to them multiple times within a 30 day period, wouldn't that deter them from caring for the senior patient?
    I may be wrong here, but doesn't being readmitted mean you are being admitted to hospital due to the same illness you were discharged with earlier?

    Also, don't most people (Seniors included) receive their ongoing treatment from a doctor's surgery or a hospital's outpatients ward (and if you're an outpatient, you're not considered to be readmitted)?
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  11. Post #51
    I'M A SHAAARK!
    Lambeth's Avatar
    October 2009
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    Only unbiased sources should be allowed here, like Daily Kos and addictinginfo.
    you gotta remember that fox news is the same company that used james o'keefe as a source. A guy who lied again and again to make planned parenthood and acorn look bad.
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  12. Post #52
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    May 2005
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    http://www.facepunch.com/showthread.php?t=1204280

    Please read this and try to justify private healthcare.
    According to that article, Wells Fargo is claiming the man was fired for other reasons not related to the health care expenses, so how does that help build a case against private health care?

  13. Post #53
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    July 2012
    354 Posts
    Here's what I don't get, Glaber. You post threads in some misguided attempt to make the Obama government look bad, to a community made up almost entirely of liberal, atheistic democrats, who waste no time at all in calling Fox News out for the shitty news source it is and pointing out just WHY the steps taken by the Obama administration are a good thing for the quality of healthcare.

    What are you trying to prove, exactly, and who are you hoping to convince? It ought to be clear by now that Facepunch isn't the most appreciative audience for neoconservative drivel. Or does getting ridiculed by people get you off? I can't tell whether you're a masochist, exceptionally stubborn, or not very smart.
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  14. Post #54
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    February 2010
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    Here's what I don't get, Glaber. You post threads in some misguided attempt to make the Obama government look bad, to a community made up almost entirely of liberal, atheistic democrats, who waste no time at all in calling Fox News out for the shitty news source it is and pointing out just WHY the steps taken by the Obama administration are a good thing for the quality of healthcare.

    What are you trying to prove, exactly, and who are you hoping to convince? It ought to be clear by now that Facepunch isn't the most appreciative audience for neoconservative drivel. Or does getting ridiculed by people get you off? I can't tell whether you're a masochist, exceptionally stubborn, or not very smart.
    He is doing the Lord's work.
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  15. Post #55
    Jeep-Eep's Avatar
    June 2010
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    Glaber's a troll. Report him as such.
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  16. Post #56
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    April 2009
    8,875 Posts
    The mere fact that the article uses the term "Obamacare" destroys it's credibility.
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  17. Post #57
    According to that article, Wells Fargo is claiming the man was fired for other reasons not related to the health care expenses, so how does that help build a case against private health care?
    It's called lying. Think about it, if you fired somebody just to avoid paying for their expensive insurance and then their daughter died, would you openly admit to it?

    Hell no, your business would go out in like 6 months, one way or the other.
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  18. Post #58
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    codemaster85's Avatar
    January 2006
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    According to that article, Wells Fargo is claiming the man was fired for other reasons not related to the health care expenses, so how does that help build a case against private health care?
    because corporations (especially banks) never lie.
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