1. Post #201
    It depends on the country, really. The ones in secular countries (Israel, Turkey, America, etc.) are not extremists. Most of them are the calm and uncaring types. The ones in Afghanistan, Arabia, Iraq, etc. are worse.
    Wouldn't that be more of a cultural effect, rather than religious, where religion is the vehicle, not cause?
    I mean there are many African nations with the same amount of brutality, savagery and slaughter but another excuse than religion.
    Take away religion from Saudi Arabia, wouldn't they just find another excuse for oppression or brutality just on slightly different merits?
    The local culture form the religious views, and not vice versa in most countries. That is also often the reason why second-generation immigrants rarely to never are extreme, and the few who are are so as a result of what their parents teach them through the ideas of the original culture.

  2. Post #202
    sonerin's Avatar
    May 2008
    1,534 Posts
    Wouldn't that be more of a cultural effect, rather than religious, where religion is the vehicle, not cause?
    I mean there are many African nations with the same amount of brutality, savagery and slaughter but another excuse than religion.
    Take away religion from Saudi Arabia, wouldn't they just find another excuse for oppression or brutality just on slightly different merits?
    Might be, but I don't think so. Countries with high brutality/hate crimes are the religious and non-secular ones. Take a look at Israel, for example. It's in the Middle East, very similiar culture with the Arabs, but they are not as violent as rest of the Middle Easterners. From what I've seen, Israel and Persia were non-opressive countries. Iran (Persia) was about perfect before they brought Sharia in.

    I doubt it depends on the culture/country. Turkey, Vatican, Israel, etc. are secular, and no religious brutality occur in countries such as these.

  3. Post #203
    Gold Member
    abcpea2's Avatar
    April 2007
    5,665 Posts
    it is a shame that brevik's massacre was wasted on commies

    (User was banned for this post ("Trolling" - Starpluck))
    Reply With Quote Edit / Delete Reply Windows 7 Australia Show Events Winner Winner x 7Agree Agree x 3Dumb Dumb x 2 (list)

  4. Post #204
    Gold Member
    Crimor's Avatar
    June 2008
    10,600 Posts
    it is a shame that brevik's massacre was wasted on commies
    Give them the ghetto, wall it off, let breivik in there


    Norway now has an Eversor.
    Reply With Quote Edit / Delete Reply Windows 7 Denmark Show Events Winner Winner x 4 (list)

  5. Post #205
    sonerin's Avatar
    May 2008
    1,534 Posts
    Give them the ghetto, wall it off, let breivik in there


    Norway now has an Eversor.

    Oh boy. If all goes to hell, Breivik should be the joker card. I can already imagine it happening.

    Edited:


    "Feed me Muslims"

  6. Post #206
    WhatAmI's Avatar
    June 2012
    1,563 Posts
    lol dem muslims

  7. Post #207
    Gold Member
    Falchion's Avatar
    May 2009
    8,032 Posts
    Oh boy. If all goes to hell, Breivik should be the joker card. I can already imagine it happening.

    Edited:


    "Feed me Muslims"
    And then he'll go and shoot some christian norwegians instead.

  8. Post #208
    Gold Member
    Appolox's Avatar
    December 2008
    3,712 Posts
    And then he'll go and shoot some christian norwegians instead.
    Just to make things fair every christian for every two muslims

  9. Post #209
    Gold Member
    Crimor's Avatar
    June 2008
    10,600 Posts
    And then he'll go and shoot some christian norwegians instead.
    I doubt they'd let their new "country" be tainted by the christians they're trying to get away from

  10. Post #210
    Movie quote goes here, because...
    Dennab
    October 2008
    8,076 Posts
    Wouldn't the natural reaction to this be to escort them to the border? I mean. "We hate this place, we hate you. You leave or we kill children!" pretty much screams "i won't adapt, throw me out!".

  11. Post #211
    Might be, but I don't think so. Countries with high brutality/hate crimes are the religious and non-secular ones.
    I believe it's the other way around. When you have a low standard of living you go god-seeking because you need one. The higher the standard of living, the less you need religion in your daily lives and atheism goes up, as reflected in most high-HDI nations now-a-days. They are religious because of bad conditions, they don't have bad conditions because of religion. That's my two cents anyway.

    Edited:

    Wouldn't the natural reaction to this be to escort them to the border? I mean. "We hate this place, we hate you. You leave or we kill children!" pretty much screams "i won't adapt, throw me out!".
    If only. But we have no law to remove people like this (as far as I know) unless they prove to be a legitimate threat, regardless of what they say they'll do.

  12. Post #212
    Movie quote goes here, because...
    Dennab
    October 2008
    8,076 Posts


    If only. But we have no law to remove people like this (as far as I know) unless they prove to be a legitimate threat, regardless of what they say they'll do.
    Didn't mean it in a bigoted racist way. Just that it'd be a bigger scale version of you showing people out of your house after they demand that you surrender your kitchen to them or they kill your dog. I mean. The natural thing here would be to firmly ask them to leave and provide police escort from the grounds. I mean. It's like the most obvious thing to do. It's not even a "Feel sorry for me because of circumstances" kind of "this place is shit" statement. It's a "Fuck you and fuck this place and its culture, give us one of your islands!"

    No! FUCK OFF! BYE!

  13. Post #213
    "some of those dragon dildo designs are pretty cool"
    EcksDee's Avatar
    February 2007
    8,866 Posts
    I believe it's the other way around. When you have a low standard of living you go god-seeking because you need one. The higher the standard of living, the less you need religion in your daily lives and atheism goes up, as reflected in most high-HDI nations now-a-days. They are religious because of bad conditions, they don't have bad conditions because of religion. That's my two cents anyway.
    I wouldn't put it like that though. America is statistically one of the most religious countries around and it's in the top 5 when it comes to HDI. Estonia is the most atheistic country if I recall correctly, and we're at like 34th.

  14. Post #214
    DANCE YOU FOOLS
    LiquidNazgul's Avatar
    November 2007
    1,671 Posts
    Quran contains hundreds of verses. It's also a rule in Islam that you are to read Quran daily. If you don't read Quran, you don't know about Islam. At least not everything you're supposed to know about it.

    Edited:



    Reading a book? Quran is the holy book of Islam. You are to follow it by the book, not what a guy says to you.
    Holy shit it's you again

    jesus christmas just stop posting, you literally know nothing about Islam
    Reply With Quote Edit / Delete Reply Windows 7 United States Show Events Dumb Dumb x 2Funny Funny x 1 (list)

  15. Post #215
    Clops with bisousbisous daily <3
    Mr. Smartass's Avatar
    December 2010
    9,188 Posts
    I feel like if I voiced my true opinion on the matter, I'd get banned, so I'll just leave with this:
    If these people don't want to live in Norway, then don't fucking live in Norway. Problem instantly solved.
    Reply With Quote Edit / Delete Reply Windows 7 United States Show Events Agree Agree x 7 (list)