1. Post #801
    Honesty's Avatar
    January 2011
    1,663 Posts
    uhm........

    boresnakes and regular rods have COMPLETELY different purposes

    if you're seriously prancing about thinking rods are that much superior then you're so wrong it's not even funny
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  2. Post #802
    What do you guys think of Bore Snakes? I have one for my .410 and my dad got one for his .30-30 lever action rifle.

    I use it on my .410 and it seems to clean it well without any harm. Though it's hard to pull through because of my tapered barrel.
    I use a boresnake and cloth patches/cleaning rod.
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  3. Post #803
    ~quack~
    Raijin's Avatar
    September 2010
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    This is going straight to facebook.
    wow
    WOW
    my sister aka ms. "guns are bad" liked it.
    did i wake up on bizarro earth or something?
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  4. Post #804
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    January 2007
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    Alright guys, let's talk long range shooting.

    I'm aiming for a long range setup. I've got a rifle I've been paying off and should be mine soon. It's a savage 110 in 300WM. Very nice rifle. Now, I'm aiming to hit out to over a mile with it. Does this sound like an ideal setup so far for shooting over a mile?
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  5. Post #805
    YEAH, AND?
    felix the cat's Avatar
    December 2010
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    What do you guys think of Bore Snakes? I have one for my .410 and my dad got one for his .30-30 lever action rifle.

    I use it on my .410 and it seems to clean it well without any harm. Though it's hard to pull through because of my tapered barrel.
    I usually boresnake first then run a couple patches through
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  6. Post #806
    Played it for the plot
    Dennab
    October 2008
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    Alright guys, let's talk long range shooting.

    I'm aiming for a long range setup. I've got a rifle I've been paying off and should be mine soon. It's a savage 110 in 300WM. Very nice rifle. Now, I'm aiming to hit out to over a mile with it. Does this sound like an ideal setup so far for shooting over a mile?
    .300 Win Mag can do a mile but I'd rather have .416 Barrett or .408 Chey Tac. .408 is still supersonic at 1.3 miles
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  7. Post #807
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    January 2007
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    .300 Win Mag can do a mile but I'd rather have .416 Barrett or .408 Chey Tac
    I'd rather not cry every time I send a bullet going downrange. Money would fly everywhere every time I shot it.

    I'm aiming for a similar setup-

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  8. Post #808
    Played it for the plot
    Dennab
    October 2008
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    I'd rather not cry every time I send a bullet going downrange. Money would fly everywhere every time I shot it.
    I'd just use it as an excuse to start reloading, personally
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  9. Post #809
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    January 2007
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    I reload, but mainly 30 cal stuff. I shoot mostly .308, 300WM, and 300 Blackout. I stick with those because I've got a ton of the components.
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  10. Post #810
    Played it for the plot
    Dennab
    October 2008
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    man you like .30 cal almost as much as I do
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  11. Post #811
    YEAH, AND?
    felix the cat's Avatar
    December 2010
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    Not judging you or anything, in fact I applaud anyone who's able to make a 1mi shot, but when on earth are you ever going to shoot something a mile away?
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  12. Post #812
    Played it for the plot
    Dennab
    October 2008
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    Not judging you or anything, in fact I applaud anyone who's able to make a 1mi shot, but when on earth are you ever going to shoot something a mile away?
    practically never, but you'd be lying if you said steel gongs a mile out are boring
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  13. Post #813
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    October 2007
    1,680 Posts
    So what does anyone know about Simpson Ltd. as a place to purchase firearms from? I'm looking to pick up a K-31 and condition matters a lot (mostly the bluing and bore condition), and the site gives a lot of info on both of those. I can pick one up with an excellent bore and 80% blue for a little shy of $300 not including shipping and FFL.
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  14. Post #814
    YEAH, AND?
    felix the cat's Avatar
    December 2010
    8,354 Posts
    So what does anyone know about Simpson Ltd. as a place to purchase firearms from? I'm looking to pick up a K-31 and condition matters a lot (mostly the bluing and bore condition), and the site gives a lot of info on both of those. I can pick one up with an excellent bore and 80% blue for a little shy of $300 not including shipping and FFL.
    You might be okay on the K31, but alot of the guns they have on there are overpriced.

    Edited:

    practically never, but you'd be lying if you said steel gongs a mile out are boring
    I'm not saying that would be boring at all. I just mean the longest range I've ever seen is 1000yards. I honestly can't even think of an opportunity to shoot out to a mile
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  15. Post #815
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    January 2007
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    man you like .30 cal almost as much as I do
    I love .30 cal stuff, great bullet all around.

    But shooting out that far is just a blast. I want a new long range setup, but I'm wondering where to go from here. The Savage should be a great gun to go with, correct? I've never owned one, but everyone has been telling me to go with it for what I want. I also need some glass, preferably under $1000. I have looked at some vortex stuff, and their seems pretty good from what I've read...
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  16. Post #816
    YEAH, AND?
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    December 2010
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    Personally, I'm partial to Trijicon. I think you can get a 2.5-10x56 for about $1k
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  17. Post #817
    Absolute tosser, manchild, and belligerent douche-nozzle.
    Dennab
    July 2006
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    Alright guys, let's talk long range shooting.

    I'm aiming for a long range setup. I've got a rifle I've been paying off and should be mine soon. It's a savage 110 in 300WM. Very nice rifle. Now, I'm aiming to hit out to over a mile with it. Does this sound like an ideal setup so far for shooting over a mile?
    Personally, I'd take my favourite long action (In your case the Savage, but I personally like the R700 action), rebarrel it with a benchrest grade barrel with a suitable contour (make your choice between weight and stiffness, take a look at the military M24 and M40 barrel contours), chamber it for a 30 or 338 cal magnum round, spend at least $2000 on a scope, put a McMillan Tac A5 stock on it and free float the barrel

    That's how I'd do it, though if I was shooting a Mile I'd want at least .338 cal so I could get some nice heavy projectiles, say 250 grain+

    Edited:

    Not judging you or anything, in fact I applaud anyone who's able to make a 1mi shot, but when on earth are you ever going to shoot something a mile away?
    Because you can?
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  18. Post #818
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    January 2007
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    I shit you not, that was almost my exact plan at the start. I had an older remington 700 and planned to base the whole setup off the action, but I traded it in and got the savage for a 100$ difference. It's set up with everything I want, but I'm wondering what else I would need to do to it for it to reach on out there.

    I do have another remington 700 in 300wm though. I bought a remington 700P an got an AICS stock for it, but that's another side project. I'm focusing on the savage right now.
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  19. Post #819
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    October 2007
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    You might be okay on the K31, but alot of the guns they have on there are overpriced.
    I'm more than willing to order from somewhere else if there's a place that has them in stock for a similar price.
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  20. Post #820
    Absolute tosser, manchild, and belligerent douche-nozzle.
    Dennab
    July 2006
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    I shit you not, that was almost my exact plan at the start. I had an older remington 700 and planned to base the whole setup off the action, but I traded it in and got the savage for a 100$ difference. It's set up with everything I want, but I'm wondering what else I would need to do to it for it to reach on out there.

    I do have another remington 700 in 300wm though. I bought a remington 700P an got an AICS stock for it, but that's another side project. I'm focusing on the savage right now.
    We have like minds...

    I've heard about something where they make sure the bolt face, the chamber and the locking lugs line up properly, then grind them flat, but to me it sounds like a gimmick, never know though
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  21. Post #821
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    January 2007
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    Sounds like a gimmick to me, but I'll have to talk to my gunsmith about it.

    Now here's the hardest part of this whole thing- finding a one mile (+) range. I live in North Georgia, and there's not much of that with so many hills. I do have a 7-800 yard flat pasture though.
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  22. Post #822
    Absolute tosser, manchild, and belligerent douche-nozzle.
    Dennab
    July 2006
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    In Australia, we have the space, but the fucking firearms branch of the police won't approve any long ranges, and they won't approve them for "dangerous" (as in big, they call 338 Lapua big) calibres. There might be one or two 1600m range in the whole country. There is a 1000m range only an hours drive from me though, and I'm sure I could find a farmer with a big property
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  23. Post #823
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    January 2007
    869 Posts
    338 isn't big enough for me if I was in Australia... I'd need more for those spiders I hear you guys have.
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  24. Post #824
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    What do you guys think of Bore Snakes? I have one for my .410 and my dad got one for his .30-30 lever action rifle.

    I use it on my .410 and it seems to clean it well without any harm. Though it's hard to pull through because of my tapered barrel.
    I use a bore snake with my Nugget. Love it. My uncle also has one for his 12ga SxS, and he has similar feelings.
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  25. Post #825
    ASK ME ABOUT MY BAKELITE FETISH
    Dennab
    April 2011
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    god australia sucks
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  26. Post #826
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    Dennab
    July 2006
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    god australia sucks
    A lot of things here are nice, except the "hurr banning things will fix the problem" mentality.

    "Young" drivers can't have V8s or Turbocharged V6s because they supposedly kill people, you get fined for crossing the road at the wrong point, they ban various guns on a whim, the police refuse to approve certain firearms despite no laws against owning them (those big dangerous calibres!), they refuse to approve many new ranges, I could go on..
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  27. Post #827
    ASK ME ABOUT MY BAKELITE FETISH
    Dennab
    April 2011
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    A lot of things here are nice, except the "hurr banning things will fix the problem" mentality.

    "Young" drivers can't have V8s or Turbocharged V6s because they supposedly kill people, you get fined for crossing the road at the wrong point, they ban various guns on a whim, the police refuse to approve certain firearms despite no laws against owning them (those big dangerous calibres!), they refuse to approve many new ranges, I could go on..
    america is starting to look p good now
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  28. Post #828
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    January 2007
    869 Posts
    If Australia would allow me to bring all my firearms over there if I moved, I'd be over there in a heartbeat.
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  29. Post #829
    YEAH, AND?
    felix the cat's Avatar
    December 2010
    8,354 Posts
    I guess we'll all just have to learn German and move to Switzerland
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  30. Post #830
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    April 2009
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    I already know basic German so I'm good.
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  31. Post #831
    Absolute tosser, manchild, and belligerent douche-nozzle.
    Dennab
    July 2006
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    america is starting to look p good now
    Except the fucked up healthcare system, crazy religious fundamentalists, The Republicans, The Democrats, the ATF, trigger happy police, too many people, corporate corruption, etc...
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  32. Post #832
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    January 2007
    869 Posts
    I'm fine with living here, but dammit ATF, why do you guys have to make things so difficult?
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  33. Post #833
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    June 2008
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    A lot of things here are nice, except the "hurr banning things will fix the problem" mentality.

    "Young" drivers can't have V8s or Turbocharged V6s because they supposedly kill people, you get fined for crossing the road at the wrong point, they ban various guns on a whim, the police refuse to approve certain firearms despite no laws against owning them (those big dangerous calibres!), they refuse to approve many new ranges, I could go on..
    Damn, we don't have the restrictions on cars and shit (at least, not in law, but insurance fees will keep those kinds of cars out of kids' hands), but the other shit happens here too; random banning, a huge anti-gun culture, disgusting media bias, ranges being shut down arbitrarily (this is actually usually done by a municipal board rather than the CFO, because some shits move in next to a range and start bitching about the noise, "city folk" ruining the fun...), and the RCMP do everything in their power to refuse to let new guns into the country, or delay their entering as long as possible. Somehow, they've even managed to arbitrarily re-classify a gun they've already let in, leading to its confiscation.
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  34. Post #834
    Absolute tosser, manchild, and belligerent douche-nozzle.
    Dennab
    July 2006
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    Isn't that what happened to the Street Sweeper and the USAS12?
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  35. Post #835
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    Dennab
    April 2011
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    Except the fucked up healthcare system, crazy religious fundamentalists, The Republicans, The Democrats, the ATF, trigger happy police, too many people, corporate corruption, etc...
    mfw you remind me what america really is
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  36. Post #836
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    I'm unsure of how to feel about this stock.
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  37. Post #837
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    Isn't that what happened to the Street Sweeper and the USAS12?
    No, those were both banned by name in 1995 by an Order in Council of the government (Order in Councils don't get voted on, the government just makes up a rule and says it's law. The Firearms Act actually allows them to do that in regards to guns, it's undemocratic bullshit. They were going to do that to ban semi-autos, but thankfully got voted out before they could).
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  38. Post #838
    Absolute tosser, manchild, and belligerent douche-nozzle.
    Dennab
    July 2006
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    Oh yea, also:

    Supposedly during the 2003 handgun buyback, some people high up in the SSAA (our version of the NRA, but less nutty) conspired with the Howard government. Supposedly they were Olympic style (as in .22lr handguns, stand in a line, shoot one handed at 10m targets) handgun shooters and they worked with the government to "sacrifice" other handgun sports to protect their own, fearing an all out UK style handgun ban

    It's a rumour that pops up now and again, no clue if it's true.

    Supposedly this happened again with the large calibre restrictions, which I should point out, were not legislated, the police just decided to do it. Fearing an all out centre-fire rifle ban or a "everything over 30 cal is bad" ban, they helped the police pick and choose the calibres..

    Anyway, I'm ranting again, suspect you guys don't want to hear this
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  39. Post #839
    ASK ME ABOUT MY BAKELITE FETISH
    Dennab
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    No, those were both banned by name in 1995 by an Order in Council of the government (Order in Councils don't get voted on, the government just makes up a rule and says it's law. The Firearms Act actually allows them to do that in regards to guns, it's undemocratic bullshit. They were going to do that to ban semi-autos, but thankfully got voted out before they could).
    then why are saiga-12s not destructive devices?
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  40. Post #840
    Absolute tosser, manchild, and belligerent douche-nozzle.
    Dennab
    July 2006
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    Saiga 12s came about in 2001 I think...
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