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Post #1281
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personally, i like de sooper beetles. they're overall a better car really
as far as i know, most super beetles are "IRS" (independent rear suspension) vs the old style swing axle (which is still technically independent rear suspension but i don't know i didn't name this shit). IRS transmissions use CV joints instead of solid axles. in a swing axle rear end, the rear wheels will "tuck" (positive camber) if the transmission is above the center of the wheel because of the solid axle. every time you lift the rear end of a swing axle car, the wheels tuck in REALLY far (there are little tricks to prevent this but that's not the point) and ultimately will cause a premature death of your swing axle boots from flexing them/squishing them against the frame horns (did i mention that the gear oil from the transaxle goes out into the boots to lubricate the axle?) and ultimately dump out your gear oil all over the fucking place and leave you with one shitty situation (and they're a pain in the ass to change). this can also lead to some really funky handling in, so to say, "bad" conditions (ie really bumpy roads, poor traction conditions etc), basically it's a gaddam death trap in the right situations.
the front suspension of super beetles is part integrated into the front fenders, iirc they switched to mcpherson struts in the supers. this resulted in much smoother handling, a much tighter turning radius (yea, regular beetle turning radius is surprisingly wide) and all that fun stuff but *technically* unlike the beetle which has totally independent body and chassis, the super beetle front suspension REQUIRES the body.
the stock engine in the supers is a 1600 dual port, meaning it's 100cc larger and has 1 intake port per cylinder (though still only a single barrel center mount carburetor, the dual port heads still flow better) as opposed to the 1500 single port (biggest engine available in the regular Beetles starting 66? i believe). there ARE 1600 single port engines but if i'm not mistaken the dual ports are more common (especially now) and they're really just different heads + intake manifolds. a lot of people like the single port heads on 1600s because they're more beefy, they can handle more abuse without cracking (1600DP heads are very, very prone to cracking or warping if they're overheated) but fuck those guys right? pfff
uhhhmm.. Super beetles have a windshield wiper squirter motor unlike regular beetles which rely on the spare tire's air pressure to pressurize the windshield wiper fluid jug.
i think i'm out of stuff for now but really the only "negative" i can think of in super vs regular is that the supers (at this age) have a tendency to develop a really bad front end wobble (especially at highway speed) because the front end is much more reliant on all those wonderful bushings and such. most people usually end up replacing pretty much all the front end parts at once because if you replace them one at a time, one bad part will ruin everything you put in so it's best to just replace pretty much everything and not have to worry about it - if it has a front end wobble, that is.
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oh jeez page king what a shitty post for a page king.
i feel bad, guys, real bad. golly gee now i'm really on the spot, oh geez, oh golly what do i do
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Am I the only one who thinks we should create a steam group?
We could use group chat n shit
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.. we do have a steam group...
http://steamcommunity.com/groups/FPAG
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holy fuck i'm late
and join group chat for a good time.
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turn it off of invite-only
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its not a group if the people who want to be in it can't join
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Mine's got independent rear suspension and isn't a super beetle.
I just can't handle the way they look. They got a fat front too.
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Oooh so I'm like at 15.6 mpg right now
Someone invite me to that steam FpAG group.
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going to clean my engine bay tommorow well technically today. Just to have it get all dirty cause my luck ill spill oil all over the engine.
funny how well i take care of this banger. o well every car (cept the aztec and prius) deserve attention
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People might not know this, but such is life of Honda owners. It just keeps happening
sicknasty.
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I hate german winter tire laws, my sergeant's wont let me drive until I change my tires and the local DIY shop says the tire tools would chew up low profile tires. Now I have to bring my car to a shop and pay to have it worked on.
I love old underfunded army programs.
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Everyone at my job either has a beemer of american muscle. So last night all 10 of us literally rolled out onto the highway all together. Pack of 10 cars doing 90-100mph straight down 87.
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could even have been considered pack style nascar racing
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Yeah I did some googling and read about the supers having "highway jitters" but I couldn't tell if it was just one person with the experience or not. A super would probably be bad for my first car (especially when I have no tools) then right?
I took a look on craigslist in the nearby 50 cities and unless I'm missing something, searching for "beetle +1970" all of the way up to 1974 seems to really only find supers :(
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Aww yee, theory test for driving license done! All I got left now is my birthday (which is in march) and to drive 2 more hours with my teacher.
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Quick question because I'm curious: As a young driver in the USA or Canada, how much do you pay for insurance?
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I bought a 1970 Mercedes Benz as my first car
buy what you want to buy, man. I only know the basic knowledge (full oil change, valve-cleaning / timing, replacing gauges and sensors, etc). I expect to learn stuff with time if anything breaks on it because frankly, even an old Mercedes that was for it's time quite overengineered is still not that hard to work on. I did buy one that had already all the stuff done to it, so I hopefully won't run into anything just yet but basic reapairs shouldn't be hard - I couldn't expect a Beetle to be that hard to maintain considering it's a pretty simple car overall, at least compared to an S-Class.
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Do you think this is decent
http://dayton.craigslist.org/cto/3336604370.html
It seems a bit high considering 200k miles but everything else pretty much fits what I'm looking for and theres a rebuilt tranny+timing belt involved. Rust doesn't seem that bad for a 200k mile car in ohio either though I'll obviously have to look under the car to see if it's not eating at the frame. Still I probably could talk it down to at least 2800-3000
Just don't want to overpay if I don't need to. Looking mostly for fuel efficent and reliable (so I don't have to spend 1000-2000 within the first two years of owning it fixing something)
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Looks pretty good, but I'd still talk him down a bit.
Even in a well maintained car like that, with 200k+ miles on it, something's bound to break (although it most likely won't be something terribly bad, since the car's been taken care of).
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I drove over a bump and suddenly my car sounded like this:
no dampers at all, it was loud as hell
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You probably got a busted exhaust connection.
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That happened to a friend of mine just a few days ago.
His pipe broke right behind the manifold so dad welded it together quickly as a temporary solution so me and my friend will probably go exhaust-scavenging on the local junkyard soon
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Happened to my fathers car. Shit was so cash because the sound made people look like there was a sports car flying by
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New steam group:
http://steamcommunity.com/groups/facepunchaa
Join chat bitches
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i saw a beetle in it's natural habitat today
aka next to the road, the driver trying to fix it
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Really the only reason I wanted a super was the full dashboard but from googling around it seems anything after '72 has the full dashI bought a 1970 Mercedes Benz as my first car buy what you want to buy, man. I only know the basic knowledge (full oil change, valve-cleaning / timing, replacing gauges and sensors, etc). I expect to learn stuff with time if anything breaks on it because frankly, even an old Mercedes that was for it's time quite overengineered is still not that hard to work on. I did buy one that had already all the stuff done to it, so I hopefully won't run into anything just yet but basic reapairs shouldn't be hard - I couldn't expect a Beetle to be that hard to maintain considering it's a pretty simple car overall, at least compared to an S-Class.
and I sure don't want highway jitters, but it seems most (good) Beetles on craigslist are all Supers - does anyone know if there's any reason in particular for this
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They're common..?
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but it's literally for every 10 beetles, 1 is a standard
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imo you could get a much better condition honda for 3k, if i were you i would just keep looking
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yeah a standard manual civic with 200k on the odo is not worth $3100
i don't care what they've done to it, it just isn't worth it
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"car I lost my virginity in so it z worth moar munnies right?"
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yea, there were standard beetles with IRS but it's way more common to have swing axle rear instead of CV joint/IRS rear on a standard, what with standards being more common before 68 and supers being more common after 68
as far as the tools thing, hardly. a good set of metric wrenches (something like 7mm-18mm would cover most bolt/nut sizes. i think the oil drain plug may be 19 or 20mm i don't remember for sure), a screw driver, optionally a 3/8 drive ratchet set to make a LOT of things much quicker, one of those cheapo fan-out feeler gauge sets (.006"-.02"), a good jack and some blocks (i <3 wood blocks, jack stands scare me) would be enough to do 90% of the work on a Bug. a 17mm allen/hex wrench is required to change the transaxle's gear oil but really beyond that all maintenance work can be done with basic, run of the mill hand tools.
for a good set of metric wrenches and a good metric ratchet set you're probably looking at a whopping $200 if you spring for the higher quality tools and the plastic organizer carrying case things.. really not all that bad considering you'll be able to do almost everything with just those tools
With a good set of wrenches, a ratchet, a screw driver and a jack (and some ingenuity) you could strip a Bug down into the 4 separate main parts - body, chassis, engine and transaxle in a day (an afternoon if you were experienced with it).
i typed a lot more words but it came off preachy and annoying so i deleted the rest, so yea. they're great cars, i love both of mine.
i leave you with this:
personally, i wouldn't own a Bug as my only form of transportation. not to say they are unreliable but for the most part if something were to go wrong, you would have to wait until at least the next day (fff fffiningsingisng shipping! curse you shipping!!!) unless you're lucky enough to live in California (where most of the ACVW vendors in the US are located) or SLC, Utah (my favorite ACVW vendor, aircooled.net) you're going to have to order whatever parts you need (though NAPA does "stock" (in their warehouses) a lot of OEM Bosch parts, mostly ignition related stuff though) so there is that.
then again, both of my Bugs are shitboxes unlike Mr. Ldesu but i think he would probably agree with my sentiment about not having a Bug as your only form of transportation, though perhaps for different reasons. then again he might think i'm a silly sillyhead or something i don't know fuck.
i always type way more than i intend to, i feel like i'm totally that guy at the party that just KEEPS FUCKING TALKING and everyone just kind of glazes over and just starts like, nodding their head and saying "Yea, yep, yea man i know what you mean" while they try to think of an escape plan but only if they're polite, other than that they just be all, "hey man i'm gonna hit the bathroom" and then they just go into the other room and they're all, "holy shit why do we keep inviting that guy? it wasn't even a conversation he just, like, verbally diarrhea'd all over me, fuck" and then they just try to avoid him at all costs for fear of the verbal equivalent of the result the day after eating a ton of taco bell and drinking a bunch of shitty beer assaulting their ears. yea, that guy.
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67 beetle is best beetle, i'm totally not biased. nope, nuh-uh, no way.
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the boss let me drive the company car to get the pizza for the store meeting. it was a brand new rental Chevy Cruze (our other 2 cars both got hit within a week). i had no idea how to work to keyless starter, so i felt stupid having to walk back in to ask. in comparison to my xterra, i felt like i was driving a golf-cart. i was fucking around with the triptonics the whole time.
tl;dr being paid to drive cars is fucking awesome, especially when they're new
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isn't cruze some korean POS
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I am paid to drive a truck and I can tell you that my job suck shitty titties because of my cheapass boss and the clients
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it was pretty nice in comparison to what i am driving
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Does anyone have a cheap DIY tire tree idea?
I have around 4 sets of wheels and tires that I want to stack to save space.
Thinking of pluming pipe (for easy twistty removal) and some weld'n for the hanger part.
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so some dick head today was riding my ass cause none of us wanted to do 30 cause we knew there was a cop somewhere around. The second a turning lane opened he jumped into it to get past me, zoops by and guess what
cop at light
lol'd so hard
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DP, u maek me sad :<
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That cabby is a piece though.
Friendly x 1
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Funny x 7
Winner x 4
Useful x 1
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