1. Post #1
    I think its silly to have school uniforms, because its a waste of money. You aren't going to be wearing it for long, and as soon as school is over or you had graduated you won't be wearing it.

    Plus, being able to decide what you can wear should make you feel more comfortable, than to be forced to wear the same clothing everyday.

    If a child dislike it, I don't think it'll be of any help when he's in a classroom.

    And the punishments that follow for not following the school rules are rather strict and they don't seem to be productive under any circumstances, but rather make things worse.

    Making a student retain because of poor grades or results is an example. Not only does it make the student feel like shit because he can't keep up with his peers, and it may not help him to become better in whichever topics that he is weak in.

    Suspending a student because of small mistakes is a pretty big waste of time, and it stops a student from knowing any important details. Its not the student's fault if he doesn't know about what you had asked him when he clearly missed the lesson.

    I'm sure that there are rules that should be gotten rid of a long time ago.

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    absolalone111's Avatar
    July 2011
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    I think that although school uniform is a bad thing (being a child an' all) but it is needed to a certain extent. If everyone wears the same thing then no one gets bullied for liking a certain band, or being poor or for wearing clothes by a certain brand. I don't believe any of the crap that we are told, that it "Helps us learn better, and concentrate more in class" but nevertheless there is a point to be made for school uniform.

    Now, I'm not sure how the school system works over there in the US, or anywhere else but in the UK it works like this;

    You spend 3 or 4 years at an infant school, when I went you weren't aloud to have uniform until 3rd year, and even then it wasn't compulsory.

    In juniors school uniform was compulsory, but quite relaxed. The uniform was a blue jumper and polo shirts, the jumper didn't even need to have the school logo, although it as encouraged.

    Now I'm in secondary school the uniform is quite strict. We have to have plain black trousers, no black jeans, I only just get away with my chinos, we have to have plain black shoes and a black blazer.
    School uniform is quite expensive, a blazer in my size is roughly 25, and plain black shoes can be quite a bit to.

    On the subject of rules I know students that have been excluded for forgetting ties, blazers and not having a note for non black school shoes, but then again kids don't even get a warning for shouting across the classroom, throwing pens and swearing at teachers.

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    October 2012
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    To be honest, it sounds like you got detention for being a retard and are still flustered about it.

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    ScottyWired's Avatar
    April 2012
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    My school uniform is actually working for me. When I'm in that uniform, people associate me with the top school in the region. Adults tend to ease up around me and when I'm riding like a retard on my way to school the cops (yeah, I've been pulled over a few times for speeding on my bike) seem a lot more chill than when they pull over some of the other schools.
    Plus my formal uniform is made of this polyester cotton which is nice and cool even in the Australian heat. The girls also wear these super thin white shirts. Spring is awesome because of the rain and sudden gusts of wind.
    If my formal uniform was light as a cloud, my sports uniform might as well be 2-dimensional.

    As for rules, eh. My friends keep up a certain standard not to stay out of trouble but to use it as a trump card against socially-fucked kids who want to hang with us.

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    Mr.Heal's Avatar
    January 2012
    128 Posts
    A school uniform is totally unneeded. The first point is it helps the poor since school uniforms are normally cheaper then normal clothing. Yeah, but now you've got your school uniform, then you have to go buy normal clothing to wear outside of school because you can't ruin your school uniform.
    Another point as made early was it prevents people from bullying other people because of brand names and other trivial shit. First of all, that's pretty stupid stuff, I'm sure bullies will find something else to bully people about, second of all someone should sit down and talk to these kids about bullying and give them real punishment instead of trying to make everyone the same. People will be different and they will have to deal with it eventually.

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    PollytheParrot's Avatar
    April 2011
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    Reposting since there's basically two threads about the same thing:

    My high school had uniforms. I was fine with it because you just wear the uniforms so you don't have to really worry about what to wear each day. And everyone else looks the same as you, with the exception of usually different color polo's and either khaki or navy blue shorts/pants/skirts.

    Just adds convenience imo.

  7. Post #7
    IPK
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    August 2012
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    Move to Serbia. They tried to invent school uniforms and shit went straight downhill before the idea was even presented.

  8. Post #8

    June 2012
    712 Posts
    School rules are fine the way they are for your average American school. Problem is that nobody enforces it and they choose to make a few examples out of a few people.

    They need to be fair across the board, harsh and just punishments if you really do something stupid and it should be in place in elementary to middle school, maybe more lenient in high school.

    get 'em young, they'll know how to act.

  9. Post #9

    September 2012
    848 Posts
    We don't get punishments in my new American school for anything short of beating someone, or telling a teacher to 'go fuck himself'. You can be late, not come to school, miss days, whatever, it's just that it impacts your grades, but there's not active 'detention' system, like in SA, where, if you missed class without an excuse, you'd have to use your saturday to spend 5 hours at school cleaning the boards or spend the afternoon after the day you fucked up on writing out sentences.

    All that autocratic bullshit, when unimplemented, like here in the US, ultimately leads to a more timid environment. We don't have 'in' people. Everyone is an equal in this school, however, ou do get your occasional dude who's like, 'I don't like immigrants in the US'.

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    Dennab
    October 2012
    175 Posts
    School rules in my opinion should be more strict because I can pretty much do anything I want now I can come to school and leave when ever I want because they dont even care what I do since I skipped and never showed up so much. That's why I barely pass school because I get to do what I want and have no one get angry at me, I wish that I still had that guilt feeling.

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    matt.ant's Avatar
    September 2006
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    I think its silly to have school uniforms, because its a waste of money. You aren't going to be wearing it for long, and as soon as school is over or you had graduated you won't be wearing it.

    Plus, being able to decide what you can wear should make you feel more comfortable, than to be forced to wear the same clothing everyday.
    I disagree with this, it prepares kids for work. I have to wear a shirt and trousers to work and it's uncomfortable, a lot more expensive than a school uniform, and a pain to clean and iron every week. But that's life, you wear what you're told to wear.

    School uniforms are there to make a school look good, like uniforms at work.

    Although I do agree the cost of school uniforms is going up

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    November 2010
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    Rules on certain things certainly need to be relaxed, or at least the punishments. I don't think it's right to completely suspend someone for smoking a cig on school property(IE, their car). I hate tobacco, but it's bullshit that it's an automatic 3 day suspension here if you get caught, i understand if it's inside, but still a little extreme. At our school, i don't go there anymore, they put me in some program out of actual school. But some people i've asked about how things are, and according to 4 different people, if you wear a hooded coat or hoodie inside, after about 3 warnings, they take you into the office with a pair of scissors and cut the hood off.(I mean if you wear the hood up)

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    Robbobin's Avatar
    June 2007
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    I'm really not fond of "it prepares children for a life of work" style replies. We should question the necessity of uniforms at work as much as we should question it at schools. What clothes you're wearing has pretty much no obvious effect on performance (unless it's designed with performance in mind, obviously). Educational institutes need to teach people IF YOU WANT TO DO X DO Y, not DO X BECAUSE WE SAY SO.

    Want to present the company you are a valuable member of as being professional? You should wear professional attire. Want to not be at risk of health hazards? Wear protective clothing. Want to learn maths? Who gives a fuck what shirt you're wearing: it makes no fucking difference.

    The whole uniform thing really does nothing but to emphasise the role of schools as a shitty ineffective one that serves to teach irrational submissive behaviour.

    It disturbs me that people see a school as a place to prepare people for the drudgery of working life, rather than a place to equip you with rational/cognitive skills to be an effective, productive, independent person (that coincidentally, is more prepared for independent living aka working life).

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    May 2008
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    I used to go to a school with uniform. Navy/Tan pants, white/navy polo, plus you could wear a school sweatshirt if you wanted. Now, however, I go to a public school. No uniform, just a dress code. It's significantly better getting to choose how you dress.

    That "it prepares you for work" thing is bullshit too. Almost no company will force someone to dress in the exact same clothes. Yeah it might have a dress code, like you have to wear something "professional" but you have a lot of different options as far as that goes.

  15. Post #15
    bake someone a cake with laxatives and viagra and then they will have poopboners
    n0cturni's Avatar
    August 2007
    4,296 Posts
    When it comes to uniforms, I feel like a dress code is definitely necessary, but uniforms aren't, except for gym maybe.

    With a well thought out dress code you'll be able to wear a lot of the things you'd want to, and it'd keep people from wearing ridiculous shit to school. Everyone wins.

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    Jon27's Avatar
    January 2010
    629 Posts
    In such a shithole like where I live, I don't mind having a uniform to prevent bullying over brands or the price of clothes (no joke, the chavs actually spend our money on designer clothes and bags) but we're also 'not supposed' to have any piercings other than one in a specific place on the ear. Funnily enough, that really pisses some groups of girls off, and my chemistry teacher regularly ruins her entire lesson by having a go at said girls at the beginning for having nose/ear piercings, meaning they just talk and bitch all lesson instead of working. I can't say I blame them; most of the teachers are rude as fuck about them.

    Not only that, but it's a case of double standards. Some of our female teachers turn up in low-cut tops with massive hoop earrings that you could hang yourself on, and we even have one male teacher with a tongue piercing. Teachers should have a dress code just like us, otherwise the reaction from students is quite violent and the rules become counterproductive.

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    December 2009
    14,144 Posts
    "Zero Tolerance" is the biggest pile of crap ever conceived by the educational establishment. It doesn't take into account extenuating circumstances, and more often than not screws over people that were in the wrong place at the wrong time, or were left holding the bag when someone gets busted. People get arrested and expelling for harmless pranks that would have been laughed off a good twenty years ago (hell, maybe even ten), and kids are scared to act naturally around teachers and administration because of this horse-shit.

    It doesn't belong in the school system, let alone ANY system. There will always be extenuating circumstances, and not letting anyone look at the situation is a terrible policy.

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    matt.ant's Avatar
    September 2006
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    That "it prepares you for work" thing is bullshit too. Almost no company will force someone to dress in the exact same clothes. Yeah it might have a dress code, like you have to wear something "professional" but you have a lot of different options as far as that goes.
    Of course they do, most retail and fast food restaurants have uniforms with their logos on, especially in retail jobs where the employee has to actively try and sell products, so the customer knows who works there and who to go to.

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    IPK
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    August 2012
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    It also depends where do you live. When i was a kid,the other kids in my school had some kind of samurai personality or something,when someone would bully over brands that would be a sign of idiocy and suddenly a whole fucking army of kids would appear and attack the bully.

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    nikomo's Avatar
    September 2007
    16,846 Posts
    As far as school uniforms:

    The problem with school uniforms isn't exactly the uniforms themselves, but what they're designed to promote: standardization.
    If you look at countries where school uniforms are still in use (UK, USA etc.), everything in schools is standardized, even the tests for the subjects.

    However, I live in Finland, where I've never had to wear a school uniform, and our educational system is built against standardized testing and such.

    Honestly, there is no one true answer to this question, but I believe in letting kids be individuals, instead of trying to build some sort of collective out of them, because that worked for me.

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    Bootlord's Avatar
    June 2011
    325 Posts
    I realize it's been said earlier in this thread, but I feel like it should be repeated.

    The school I go to doesn't have a uniform, but it has a dress code. From the guys' perspective, it's pretty open to interpretation. A jacket, a button down shirt, a tie, no jeans, and any kind of shoes that you throw on. I like it because it sets a standard of presentation for students, but it also allows for personalization from person to person.

    For example, most people just go with the navy blazer and khaki pants combo and they look fine and are following all the rules. On the other hand, there are some people who take it to a more personalized level. I, for example, like wearing black pants, a blue shirt, a tan jacket, and a blue tie.

    In both examples, we're following the rules and representing the school well, but we also are able to represent ourselves on an individual basis, which seems to be the primary argument against a uniform here. Individuality should be maintained and I agree that a uniform stifles individual students, albeit in a fairly minor way.

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    Vasey105's Avatar
    June 2012
    706 Posts
    I actually like my school uniform, it consists of black shoes and black trousers, a white shirt and green tie, and a black blazer. The blazer is actually pretty helpful, with the multiple pockets on the inside, allowing you to keep pens, pencils, keys and money etc inside.

    Furthermore, it prevents the hassle of trying to keep within dress code, and look fashionable/stylish at the same time.

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    InstantDeath's Avatar
    January 2005
    40 Posts
    I'm really not fond of "it prepares children for a life of work" style replies. We should question the necessity of uniforms at work as much as we should question it at schools. What clothes you're wearing has pretty much no obvious effect on performance (unless it's designed with performance in mind, obviously). Educational institutes need to teach people IF YOU WANT TO DO X DO Y, not DO X BECAUSE WE SAY SO.

    Want to present the company you are a valuable member of as being professional? You should wear professional attire. Want to not be at risk of health hazards? Wear protective clothing. Want to learn maths? Who gives a fuck what shirt you're wearing: it makes no fucking difference.

    The whole uniform thing really does nothing but to emphasise the role of schools as a shitty ineffective one that serves to teach irrational submissive behaviour.

    It disturbs me that people see a school as a place to prepare people for the drudgery of working life, rather than a place to equip you with rational/cognitive skills to be an effective, productive, independent person (that coincidentally, is more prepared for independent living aka working life).
    School uniforms are supposed to ingrain the idea of everyone looking the same when they go to work. Work places have uniforms because they have a reputation to keep. It is always about reputation. If your workplace looks nice, people will want to do business with you. if it looks trashy, or messy, no one will want to do business with you.

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    Robbobin's Avatar
    June 2007
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    School uniforms are supposed to ingrain the idea of everyone looking the same when they go to work. Work places have uniforms because they have a reputation to keep. It is always about reputation. If your workplace looks nice, people will want to do business with you. if it looks trashy, or messy, no one will want to do business with you.
    You have good reason to dress appropriately for work, because it has an effect on availability of your pay check. You have no good reason to dress in uniform at school because it makes no difference on your ability to learn. It's like everyone thinks we should trick kids into being okay with work, rather than making it okay with reason and argument.

  25. Post #25
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    Nemisis116's Avatar
    July 2011
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    My school is over the top with uniforms
    Tucked in shirts, hats in summer, school socks, school bag, no jewellery/make-up

    It is absolutely fucking ridiculous, everybody just looks silly

    EDIT
    Yes they should be more lenient
    But to be honest most schools don't really care, my old school did not give a single shit, it was a riot.

    Every school has its rules

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    Megafan's Avatar
    September 2008
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    Please refrain from just posting your uniform or non-uniform policy is, and try to discuss the topic in a way that may reach a conclusion.

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    st0rmforce's Avatar
    February 2008
    3,594 Posts
    Isn't the answer entirely dependent on the school in question?

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    Flyingman356's Avatar
    June 2008
    4,751 Posts
    I go to a school where the only rule is don't distract other people's learning. It works and I fucking love it.

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    Klownox's Avatar
    January 2008
    9,709 Posts
    Why does it matter? You're in school for an education. If you don't like wearing a uniform, suck it up. The uniform and rules don't affect your education.

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    Dennab
    November 2010
    1,401 Posts
    I believe uniforms are much better than letting kids wear whatever they want. When in school I see many kids wearing things that are made just to distract others like neon green Nikes and socks. Girls wear see through shirts and all that disgusting suggestive clothing, I believe the people who made the dress code is just a team of perverted old men who wanna fuck a 13 year old. I believe a uniform would be definitely less distracting, if it were a problem you could have options in the uniform or something like that.

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    November 2012
    1,074 Posts
    The way I see it uniform in general is pointless, schools have become about looking good (mucking with results, changing names "home learning" and ignoring punishment for statistics). Uniform makes many students feel uncomfortable and I'm sure people would feel a lot more motivated and relaxed in, metaphorically, their own skin. Another argument is that people will be bullied for the clothes they wear or bands they like etc, honestly, I've been bullied for years and I doubt they care about my fashion sense, bullied focus on weight, height, pitch of voice or just the amount of people they have to stick up for them more than clothing.

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    imtehberst's Avatar
    November 2012
    12 Posts
    I wear a uniform, and I must agree that I think uniforms are a bit uneccesarry. For one, I had to waste another 6 dollars to get like, a 1 inch school logo embroidery on the butt of my pants that is barley visable. Plus the pants are tight and really chafe in places (that will not be named). As well, they aren't really that comfortable. You don't have much of your creative style of expression when you wear uniforms, and it doesn't show your individuality. I definately oppose of uniforms, but do beleive in dresscodes so nobody dresses innapropriately during school.

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    Dennab
    January 2012
    821 Posts
    I wear a uniform, and I must agree that I think uniforms are a bit uneccesarry. For one, I had to waste another 6 dollars to get like, a 1 inch school logo embroidery on the butt of my pants that is barley visable. Plus the pants are tight and really chafe in places (that will not be named). As well, they aren't really that comfortable. You don't have much of your creative style of expression when you wear uniforms, and it doesn't show your individuality. I definately oppose of uniforms, but do beleive in dresscodes so nobody dresses innapropriately during school.
    I never understood the point of 'School Uniforms' or even 'Dresscodes.' They always block out the stupidest things... Here's mine.
    No sweats
    No Camo
    No Athletic Shorts
    No Sport T-shirts
    No Representation of a sports team
    Etc.

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    Sableye's Avatar
    October 2009
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    honestly people will dress like sluts and douches, uniforms or no uniforms, they find a way

    idk about you but my highschool's electronics policy was from the dark ages of windows 98, (they also had some windows 98 machines)
    no electronics, NONE, anything that used the current of flowing electrons as it's lifeblood shall be immediately seized and imprisoned and only released on the signature of a parent. mind you i only just graduated in may, even though tablets and ipod touches, and iphones were ubiquitous in every day life by then

    also their plagiarism policy is retarded, basically its up to the teacher to decide if she's bitchy enough to fail you, it doesn't even state what is plagiarism, just that you know what it is so we don't have to write it in this rulebook about rules, so if you are missing one citation out of an entire 20 page paper, instant F, very hard to negotiate with i'm right, your wrong teachers.

    and some bitchy teacher tried to get me suspended for playing cards with my friend, i even showed her the school's own words on card games, she still wanted to send me to the principal, so i just said i would go on my own, and left

    i swear 90% of the teachers at my highschool thought they were in an ivy league college instead of a broke as fuck public highschool in the middle of a cornfield

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    July 2007
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    I think its silly to have school uniforms, because its a waste of money. You aren't going to be wearing it for long, and as soon as school is over or you had graduated you won't be wearing it.
    I've always thought this was silly as well. If I ran a school the dress code would be "If you're comfortable wearing it into public and it won't get you an indecent exposure citation you can wear it to school. Oh, and no shoes that can easily come off, we can't guarantee the parking lot is free of sharp or hot objects."


    No, I don't care if the class whore wears a bikini to her 11th grade english class, or that the class anarchist asleep in the back of class is wearing a grateful dead T-shirt and "Fuck You!" hat. They're old enough to dress themselves, and if someone else can't pay attention to their lit teach because of a pair of titties they need to learn that skill while they still can, because if they still have that problem when they're in the real world they're not going very far.


    And the punishments that follow for not following the school rules are rather strict and they don't seem to be productive under any circumstances, but rather make things worse.
    My experience was that they were ineffective. Kids that just didn't want to go could go do something absolutely trivial and be handed three days of R&R where they don't have to worry about school for it. Win-fucking-win in their eyes.

    Making a student retain because of poor grades or results is an example. Not only does it make the student feel like shit because he can't keep up with his peers, and it may not help him to become better in whichever topics that he is weak in.
    Uhh, no. Holding someone back a grade is perfectly plausible. If we pass them anyway we end up with one of two situations.


    The one my high school faced was that the curriculum was designed for 7th graders because so many of them were passed just as you're saying. Nobody learned anything because they had to dumb the coursework down so much in order to pass the lazy fuckwits that didn't bother at all and knew they'd graduate anyway because nobody was willing to fail them.

    The other problem is that, if the above doesn't happen, you end up in a situation where graduation rates are so pathetic the public is literally crying for blood. Public pressure on school systems to get graduation rates up flies in the face of passing the lazy fuckwits and not dumbing down the curriculum. Not only that, but graduation rates are one of the major determining factors on whether or not a high school stayed open, as was the case with mine. Too few kids graduate and the state pulls their funding. Bam. School closed.

    The only solution is to hold them back when they fail. It may seem cruel to you, but it only affects the kid getting hold back. Passing them anyway affects everyone that attends their school.


    Hell I was a bit of a lazy one myself. The only reason I did anything at all in the pre-requisite classes was because I'd be held back if I didn't. I did enough to pass, nothing more. I was in high school because the state law said I had to be, not because I wanted to be, so I had no incentive to perform my best.


    Suspending a student because of small mistakes is a pretty big waste of time, and it stops a student from knowing any important details. Its not the student's fault if he doesn't know about what you had asked him when he clearly missed the lesson.
    In my school it was the student's responsibility to catch up on their own time. The teachers were not supposed to help these students get back up to speed. The theory behind this is that it would add some sort of teeth to the punishment. In practice it sort of didn't...


    My issue with suspension is that it just doesn't work. I knew a few kids that would intentionally get three days of OSS just so they didn't have to come to school. Getting it was piss easy too, all you had to do was swear a few times in front of a principal, and their parents obviously did not care all that much about their kid saying naughty words. So it was a free vacation for them. They'd usually do it on tuesday or friday so they'd have five consecutive off days, too

    I'm sure that there are rules that should be gotten rid of a long time ago.
    I would say the zero tolerance on cell phones rules should disappear. I would rewrite the rule to say "Electronics are confiscated if they disturb the entire class, otherwise they're kosher." If Student A wants to have music in one ear while they work on their classwork, sure, whatever. If Student G wants to text her BFF, that's fine too. The big thing is that they're not disturbing their classmates. This, of course, also comes with the caveat "If you text so much you fail the class, tough. You get the fail. Learn to budget your time better."

  36. Post #36
    Dennab
    January 2012
    821 Posts
    honestly people will dress like sluts and douches, uniforms or no uniforms, they find a way

    idk about you but my highschool's electronics policy was from the dark ages of windows 98, (they also had some windows 98 machines)
    no electronics, NONE, anything that used the current of flowing electrons as it's lifeblood sreally, he was sending thall be immediately seized and imprisoned and only released on the signature of a parent. mind you i only just graduated in may, even though tablets and ipod touches, and iphones were ubiquitous in every day life by then

    also their plagiarism policy is retarded, basically its up to the teacher to decide if she's bitchy enough to fail you, it doesn't even state what is plagiarism, just that you know what it is so we don't have to write it in this rulebook about rules, so if you are missing one citation out of an entire 20 page paper, instant F, very hard to negotiate with i'm right, your wrong teachers.

    and some bitchy teacher tried to get me suspended for playing cards with my friend, i even showed her the school's own words on card games, she still wanted to send me to the principal, so i just said i would go on my own, and left

    i swear 90% of the teachers at my highschool thought they were in an ivy league college instead of a broke as fuck public highschool in the middle of a cornfield

    ^ this. I almost got expelled for looking up 'Wikipedia' on Wikipedia, and I was chatting (Not really, he was sending the messages...) with my friend through steam. She looked about ready to kill me.

    (User was banned for this post ("Anecdotes are not debating" - Megafan))

  37. Post #37
    Fenrisulfr's Avatar
    November 2012
    103 Posts
    In reply to the titular question: yes, especially the rules concerning attendance.

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    Tymoschuk's Avatar
    May 2009
    731 Posts
    I definately think school rules should become fairer and unprejudiced. For example at my school in Scotland the Physical Education (Gym, PE, whatever) has no real uniform for boys apart from one rule - no football strips. For example, I've been told to turn my Scotland football strip inside out in order to take part in the class, despite it being the colour and flag of our country. What makes it worse is there are no rules against Rugby strips, my friend regularly wears his Scotland rugby strip and is not pulled up for it.

    I can see that the school possibly tries to prevent "divisions" amongst pupils going by the football team they support - obviously Rangers FC and Celtic FC are the massive teams in Scotland with a very fierce rivalry - but I believe that at the school I go to - not posh but not scummy - the pupils are mature enough to put petty divides aside until gamedays. Is one pupil wearing a Rangers top going to cause trouble with another wearing a Celtic top? No.

  39. Post #39
    Sxw

    November 2012
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    Awhile ago, at the lunchtable, me and my friends were eating. Then someone else sits near us. He was a little kid, short for our age. He throws a pickle at my friend and we tell him to stop after he does it again. He does, but then picks up a pencil and trys to stab(he has weak arms) my other friend. My other friend grabs his arms to keep him from stabbing him. He lets go and the person raises his hand. Then the principal starts walking over. The kid says my friend tried to break his arm and everyone starts arguing. After that, the principal tells the kid he should move and the kid says my friend should move. The Assist. Principal comes and picks up(!) the kid, he is flailing now. Later, the Assit. principal comes over and says that the concequence for this table is that we need to raise our hands if something bothers us.

    Anyways, I think the rules are to strict. Not just the rules but the punishments to.
    When the teacher punishes the whole class for only a few people, it tells everyone that they get punished even if they are behaving. This then causes more people to disobey.

  40. Post #40
    aliensoldier's Avatar
    January 2009
    677 Posts
    Making a student retain because of poor grades or results is an example. Not only does it make the student feel like shit because he can't keep up with his peers, and it may not help him to become better in whichever topics that he is weak in.
    How are you supposed to get better at a topic you are weak in, when in the higher grade it's getting harder and harder?
    One of my friends had to repeat the 9th grade. By the time he was put into our group I couldn't stand him, he was a real anti-social asshole. But he knew he had to change something, so he stopped meeting his retard asshole mates and made real friends instead. He began to study and study and his marks became better and better. He started all over again and became the probably funniest person I know. He's going to a vocational school now to become a language interpreter/translator. Seriously, his english skills are fickin' awesome, he knows a bunch of different dialects.