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I personally am curious to see how he does rapid inductions and the neurological science behind it. My natural skepticism makes me want to doubt his ability to simply make someone lose consciousness with the touch of his fingers. Yet another part of me--the hopeful part wants to believe such feats are possible.
After all, there are so many things we don't fully understand about the brain and human psychology in general.
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would've be funny if he was a pedo and raped the girl because they're alone and the world went to shit and see the look on Darrens face when they try to stop him
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Why does everyone accept that Derren Brown is in his right to change someone to his perception of what is a better version of themselves?
Could this be some kind of audience test...
Steven was in the year above at my old school, he was a drama student in two school plays - Suspicious...
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The way Derren thinks is that the situations guide Steven into being a better person. Ultimately, it's up to Steven to make the choices himself.
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Anyone know why that guy was washing the ambulance in the middle of a zombie Apocalypse? seems rather pointless to me.
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Can't wait for part 2... Fucking amazing!
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Actually, when you think about it, when situations are that extreme, people tend to deny certain things (or at least destract themselfs of those things).
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Sounds legit.
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Let me guess, your dad's Gabe Newell and your mum's the tooth fairy?
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that's not how writing works lolWell it is scripted obviously, they wouldn't credit Mark Gatiss (Writer; Doctor Who, Sherlock etc) at the end for no reason.
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this.
I think the main thing to notice in this video is that brown says he needed someone susceptible to suggestion. Though simple hypnosis isn't flawless, if you are "willing" to be hypnotized, you can be made to do essentially anything. I, like funnybunny watched part of my class take part in a hypnosis show, not knowing there was going to be one until an hour before. A few of the people that volunteered, particularly the people I thought to be the more intelligent out of the bunch, just simply couldn't let themselves go to hypnosis even when they tried, but the rest of the group, I'll tell you... He had people believing they were Taylor Swift signing t-shirts and just the most insane shit, and he was able to que people to do things after they were "released."
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He was washing the side of the ambulance where the zombies touched. Smart if you ask me.
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I love how everyone makes up the most bizarre explanations that don't make any more sense of the situation
Lets be realistic here, if such a power existed and worked in the same way it did in the show, we'd
A) Have some scientific proof of it. Still waiting on that scientific article 'Slater' said he'd provide!
B) Have a lot more people using it for their own benefit. Does it not seem suspicious to you that these things only happen at shows? Have you ever seen a news article describing a victim who was hypnotised and then made to do X or Y?
No, even though hypnosis in this form is supposedly such a powerful tool. I'm not denying hypnosis, but I am denying someone's ability to just tap them on the head and have them fall asleep.
You do, however, hear stories of people shot with guns, for example. Guns that are designed with a real science, with real facts and real physics. Not some mystical power that doesn't appear to have any scientific proof whatsoever.
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Doctor Who had a pretty interesting explanation to this, in which hypnosis (or rather blood control in that case) couldn't control the subconscious, so basically if you ordered someone to kill someone else or kill themselves, you wouldn't be able to because it goes against their nature.
So if stealing or murder etc. is against someones nature, it wouldn't work.
Or something like that.
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The video still doesn't address why his supposed life as a moocher doesn't add up. Looking it up Darren Brown has been a bullshitter before so I'm guessing this will be verified as fake pretty soon.
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Apparently hypnotizing someone who isn't a volunteer is a hell of a lot harder than stage hypnotism, which always has a volunteer.
Skepticism is understandable and good, but I honestly suggest you go to an actual show with someone who knows what they're doing, and volunteer. Preferably with a friend nearby so they can tell you what dumb shit you did.
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Derren Brown is everything but a bullshitter, look at some of his Live shows, full versions are on Youtube. He is quite literally a genius.
How does it not add up exactly? I looked on the last page and saw "aspiring actor" which somehow disproves that he is a moocher, yet hey, he's not an aspiring actor.
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They were rubbing the infection all over it, he wanted to steralize it
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Why is it that no one even read the blog post about all this yet they continue to talk about it. Read this (all of it)
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He is a bullshitter to some degree, he mislead everyone on some stunt where he claimed to predict what chamber a live round was in when playing russian roulette. Stevens twitter profile suggest he is a marathon runner and by the looks of it it doesn't look like he is some lazy ass.
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Derren only bullshits enough to hide his true methods, that's part of being a magician. It's obvious at this point that Steven is real in every sense of the word and Derren made a good point. Suggesting that Steven is fake is honestly a conspiracy theory, the number of people that would have to stay silent is HUGE and most of them like his friends wouldn't ever have to sign an agreement to stay quiet and would happily spill the beans for 100 bucks to some news organization.
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Suggesting you are using a live round when you are only using a blank is bullshitting, not really a method to be hid. I will bet in a few weeks someone will come forward, if not then I suppose I will have to take it as real.
But if its is real I still think its an incredibly shitty thing to do to someone, regardless of their personnel life.
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They were forced to use blanks, and seeing as most people (like you) don't understand that a blank round can still kill you, they decided to just say they are live rounds since saying they're blanks would (to most people) make it less dramatic.
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And so once again this is a case of lying simply to cover up his real methods. The fact is that he didn't use any mentalism to perform that trick, there was never any real danger. It's just a magic trick. The same way that when Penn Jillette catches a bullet in his mouth, there was never really any danger.
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I was hoping that infected guy at the hospital was his brother
am I the only one?
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It WAS, his long lost brother his dad had in an affair
what a tweest
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You can do without being condescending. I know blanks can kill and my point still stands, its still bullshitting, its not hiding a method, as you said it was too be dramatic. While using a fake gun and a fake actor are different in relation to the actual event, it still shows he has the capacity to bullshit for reasons other than the experiment itself.
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You didn't seem to know that blanks can kill so I was just using you as an example to make it clear that many people don't. "To make it dramatic" is an understatement because very few people would understand that there's even risk involved. He might as well say it's a water gun, no one would watch it. There wouldn't be a show without the idea of live rounds (which again, they were forced to use blanks by the networks/government). The gun isn't fake and the man isn't an actor.
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Some of you believe this? It's uncanny how many things are out of place, the whole thing is fake.
Steven is a fucking actor for crying out loud.
It's still entertaining to watch, but this is the worst thing i've seen derren brown do in a long while.
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I read it. I also have a pet monkey who teaches me quantum mechanics while riding a unicycle.
If you don't believe that, why do you believe Darren Brown?
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Yes, yes we get it, you're so much smarter than everyone else.
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What part of it doesn't add up? In the show they had access to his Twitter so you'd assume they'd be more careful and would of done something about it. The Twitter account could be made by anyone. I think people are trying to hard to disprove this. It doesn't automatically become fake when there is something out of place, just because it's Derren Brown. However, he does 'fake' stuff:
I think it's real though. It would seem like a complete waste of time and money if it wasn't.
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In the lottery event, Derren purposefully gives the viewer everything they need to know to figure out how he really did it. The only trick in that series was seeing how much information he could purposefully give away and still misdirect people away from people figuring it out.
Again, he tells you and shows you it's a camera trick and deliberately reveals the equipment used to do the trick during the show. The rest of the hour is spent trying to make you forget what you just saw and heard.
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Perhaps you missed my point. I gave an example of something ridiculous, similar to Darren Brown's explanation. He bought Darren's story but not mine, I'm pointing out the fact he also shouldn't just take what Darren says as fact. Darren needs money, he's not about to go "yeah, okay, you're right. It was all setup" He's going to fight tooth and nail, even if that means trying to make people who doubt him feel bad:
My point is, don't just blindly accept what he says as fact. It amazes me, those who believe this seem to be the ones who don't look into it at all. Their idea of looking into it is going to Darrens website and looking up what he said. Expand your search and look for some real proof, if you can find me some, I'll keep to my promise and shut up. Until then, why believe Darren over logic?
I'm not smarter than everyone else, if I came across as someone who thought that I apologise
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Well, some of us have looked into it and I've heard plenty from third party sources. Why believe him over logic? Well, he's given a logical explanation which I have seen evidence for before and he has a history of being honest.
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The difference between what you said and what Derren Brown did is that what you said is absurd and what Derren does is actually possible. What exactly does he do that you don't think is possible? Also include how you think he could fake the things you don't think are possible.
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Until someone provides a medical article that says why some people can be so suggestible as to be hypnotized in a second then I can't really watch this as well as I'd like to.
Also, why didn't he find it a bit strange that the keys were inside the door and thrown on the floor? Why weren't they on the table instead?
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If you woke up in an abandoned hospital, would the first thought on your mind be "Wait a goddamn second... why are there keys on the floor and not on the table?"
Probably not, it'd be something like "Where the hell am I jesus christ what the fuck"
Plus, it was obviously put there so he could find it easily.
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My mum in her work field (psychology and mental health) has trained in hypnosis, fucking crazy shit how easy it is to put someone in a trance or sleeping state.
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2% of the population is very suggestible to hypnosis, making it very easy too discover who these people are using simple hypnotic trances.
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You cant just instantly hypnotize someone like that, Darren would of done a lot of background work prior to trying that move on him, certain objects in a room, certain words, triggers etc.
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so there is gonna be episode 2 tomorrow? I can't wait.
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TBH, I don't care if the show is real or fake, it is still pretty interesting to think about what would happen if something like this did happen.
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Does anyone know a way to watch the second episode today even though you're outside of the UK?
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