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    Harare - Zimbabwe's War Veterans Association says it has expelled President Robert Mugabe as its leader and has formed a revolutionary council to take over the ruling Zanu-PF party.

    "We have completely disowned Mugabe," says the statement issued on Wednesday in Johannesburg by war veterans leader Chris Mutsvangwa.

    The association of former fighters for independence is loyal to fired vice president Emmerson Mnangagwa, who says he has left Zimbabwe after threats. Mugabe accuses his former deputy of plotting to take power, which Mnangagwa denies.

    The war veterans' statement uses language similar to that used by Mugabe's guerrillas during their fight against white minority-ruled Rhodesia in the 1970s.
    [...]
    source: www.News24.com




    more context in the source

    Edited:

    Update: Mugabe under house arrest
    http://www.bbc.com/news/world-africa-41997982

    Edited:


    Impeachment process to begin as Mugabe remains defiant
    Harare, Zimbabwe - Defiant President Robert Mugabe could lose his 37-year grip on Zimbabwe within days, with a motion to impeach him on Tuesday's parliament agenda introduced by the ruling ZANU-PF party.

    The motion - which will be heard in a joint sitting of the lower and upper house - accuses Mugabe of being "the source of instability" within government and allowing his wife, First Lady Grace, to "usurp constitutional power".

    As laid out in Section 97 (3) of the Constitution, once the Senate and National Assembly have passed a resolution confirming the president should be removed from office, Mugabe could be stripped of his wide-ranging powers that many citizens say have caused untold suffering and hardship.

    Douglas Gumbo, 54, who participated in Saturday's mass march calling for Mugabe to resign, told Al Jazeera he was eager to watch the parliamentary session. House sittings are normally broadcast live on state television.

    "He tried to run away from us on Sunday, but now he is cornered. It's game over for him and I just can't wait to see him and his wife go," he said.

    Impeachment requires a two-thirds majority of both the senate and the national assembly.

    While the governing ZANU-PF party, which has turned against its leader, holds a parliamentary majority, it may have to team up with opposition legislators to make up the required numbers.

    Dozens of ZANU-PF MPs have fled the country or gone into hiding facing army detention, following a military crackdown targeting "criminals" surrounding the veteran leader.

    Also on Tuesday, Emmerson Mnangagwa, the vice president Mugabe sacked on November 6, reportedly joined calls for the leader to resign.

    "The people of Zimbabwe have spoken with one voice and it is my appeal to President Mugabe that he should take heed of this clarion call and resign forthwith so that the country can move forward and preserve his legacy," he said in a statement that has been circulating around local media.
    [...]
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    Update: Mugabe has resigned

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    I would not miss Mugabe a bit but let's at least hope it stays bloodless.
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    About damn time, Mugabe has proven the only thing he is competent at is trashing the country time and time again.
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    Absolute tosser, manchild, and belligerent douche-nozzle.
    Dennab
    July 2006
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    I want to say they couldn't do much worse than Mugabe but I made the same mistake when I said the same thing about Assad.

    We'll see.

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    June 2012
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    I want to say they couldn't do much worse than Mugabe but I made the same mistake when I said the same thing about Assad.

    We'll see.
    Not a very fair comparison because Assad is still in power. The worsening came from the consequences of his decisions.

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    May I ask where you got that political bias thing from? I am interested in seeing what it says for other publications.

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    May I ask where you got that political bias thing from? I am interested in seeing what it says for other publications.
    click the pic and it will take you to it, Media Bias Fact Check

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    click the pic and it will take you to it, Media Bias Fact Check
    I tried that but the image is hosted on imgur and clicking it just expands the picture. Maybe it's because I am on mobile?

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    I tried that but the image is hosted on imgur and clicking it just expands the picture. Maybe it's because I am on mobile?
    yeah that's it, getting the same thing on my phone
    here's the link
    https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/news24-south-africa/

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    It's also in the rules for Polidicks, it was put there for people to check unfamiliar sources with before they post.

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    Fuck Mugabe, good riddance and all, but it doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out how this is going to end. Since when has a military coup in an improverished and deeply corrupt country ended well?
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    Guardian article with more details

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...athers-support

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    El Burro's Avatar
    August 2007
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    Wouldn't surprise me if Mugabe's health is failing and expelling Mnangagwa is just his wife making herself heir apparent before he kicks the bucket.

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    They aren't tanks, they're armoured personnel carriers

    Edited:

    Still, it looks like the situation is escalating

    http://www.enca.com/africa/tanks-hea...ampaign=buffer

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    They aren't tanks, they're armoured personnel carriers
    Armored personnel carriers make more sense in this context anyway, because you can't fill a tank with infantry to oust a shitty leader.
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    It's happening, soldiers have taken over the national broadcaster and explosions have been reported in the capital

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-41992351
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    I would not miss Mugabe a bit but let's at least hope it stays bloodless.
    This is Africa we are talking about
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    BBC link updated, Zimbabwean Army describing it as an "anti-crime" operation, shooting in the area of several official residences including Mugabe's.

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    I just hope this doesn't devolve into another odd power-vacuum conflict like the ones that happened in central africa. Depending on how widespread the violence gets this could potentially be a syria 2.0 with ethnic cleansing and all, right on S.A's borders. However I'm fairly sure zimbabwe is of little interest to the world's countries compared to elsewhere in africa, so this might not become a weird extension to a regional cold war like syria, unless China wants to get involved to show the continent just how strong and effective it is as a regional economic & strategic partner.
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    Maybe they knew Mugabe was on his last legs and possibly about to die, so they are acting now before his wife takes over.

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    It's probably going to end up with the army ruling as a junta

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    It's probably going to end up with the army ruling as a junta
    Given just how shit Mugabe has been, this could be a significant step up for freedom and general well-being of the country. Not saying it will be, but it would have a hard time getting worse.
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    http://www.bbc.com/news/live/world-a...ource=facebook

    Army has taken over, Mugabe detained
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    Absolute tosser, manchild, and belligerent douche-nozzle.
    Dennab
    July 2006
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    Lol.

    Well, lets cross our fingers the junta being nicer than Mugabe.
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    Well, whoever's taking over will have to try pretty hard to do worse. It's possible, though.

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    This is the dude who executes gay people right? Hope the piece of shit gets the book smashed against his head, a monster of proportions that even challenges Rocket Man's rule.

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    Was about damm Time
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    Did you know, that when my sister was born (in 1999), the Zimbabwean literally, arbitrarily, decided that she wasn't allowed Zimbabwean citizenship? Not only was that a move that violates the UN Declaration of Human Rights, it also meant that to get her passport so she could emigrate to NZ with the rest of us, she had to take advantage of a bunch of clauses regarding UK citizenship and protected citizens.

    Did you also know, that in 2006, my Zimbabwean citizenship was revoked, because the government revokes your citizenship if you're out of the country for more than 5 years? That led to me being stateless for 10 years until last year.

    I'm not going to miss Mugabe and I'm not going to miss his government of meatheads with AKs.
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    i wonder if it is going to stay as detention or if he'll get a neck extension

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    i guess he's in poor enough health that keeping him locked up would serve essentially the same purpose

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    Did you know, that when my sister was born (in 1999), the Zimbabwean literally, arbitrarily, decided that she wasn't allowed Zimbabwean citizenship? Not only was that a move that violates the UN Declaration of Human Rights, it also meant that to get her passport so she could emigrate to NZ with the rest of us, she had to take advantage of a bunch of clauses regarding UK citizenship and protected citizens.

    Did you also know, that in 2006, my Zimbabwean citizenship was revoked, because the government revokes your citizenship if you're out of the country for more than 5 years? That led to me being stateless for 10 years until last year.

    I'm not going to miss Mugabe and I'm not going to miss his government of meatheads with AKs.
    Why wasn't she allowed citizenship, is your family former white rhodies?
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    Why wasn't she allowed citizenship, is your family former white rhodies?
    That's the only explanation any of us can think up. I suppose they thought she was too white to be a Zimbabwean citizen.

  34. Post #34
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    Ahh yes the penultimate stage of the Coup, getting the leader to announce his resignation. My favorite part!

  35. Post #35
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    Mugabe's wife has fled the country for Namibia:
    Grace Mugabe, the wife of Zimbabwean President Robert Mugabe, is reported to have fled the country for neighbouring Namibia.

    Her husband is thought to be under house arrest in the southern African country's capital, Harare, after the Zimbabwean military took control of the government.

    It is unclear how Ms Mugabe was able to make her escape.

    Eddie Cross, an MP from the main opposition party, Movement for Democratic Change, said he understood the First Lady was now in Namibia.

    A representative for the ruling Zanu-PF party also said he believed she was no longer in Zimbabwe.

    It comes after Zimbabwean army generals seized power and detained senior officials, including Finance Minister Ignatius Chombo, as part of a round-up of "criminals".
    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...-a8055936.html
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  36. Post #36

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    The south african president "Zuma" (Hrmm heard that name somewhere recently.) is sending an "envoy" to meet with Mugabe to get a clear picture of whats going on. If mugabe doesn't choose to step down zuma could be a huge ally and all it takes is one shot to turn this into a bloodbath in africa. UN should step in but they've hid under their desks because of the carriers off the coast of korea and you bet trump is too worried about fox news debunking uraniumone to care about africans killing each other.


  37. Post #37
    Absolute tosser, manchild, and belligerent douche-nozzle.
    Dennab
    July 2006
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    The south african president "Zuma" (Hrmm heard that name somewhere recently.)
    It's the name of SpaceX's next (classified) launch.

  38. Post #38
    Proudly supporting the JIDF
    Dennab
    July 2010
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    about 35 years overdue for a coup to be honest
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    September 2008
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    Gotta hand it to the coup leaders, bold move to try the first postmodern coup

    Ceci n'est pas une coup
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    November 2011
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    Heard on NPR that Mugabe is still doing cerimonial things, just no official presidential duties. Sounds like he ordered something a little too stupid or was acting too senile and the military polietly took power.