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 Post #801
 12th November 2008
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*Freezorg*'s Avatar
February 2008
4,221 Posts
Sams Brume posted:
You know how long Mirror's Edge is already? Is it out already?
Exactly.
 Post #802
 12th November 2008
rabidwolf's Avatar
October 2008
26 Posts
Actually if you guys bothered to pay attention you'd see they're turning this game into a three-game series. So stuff it.
 Post #803
 12th November 2008
Dennab
October 2008
1,107 Posts
Already a Trilogy? That's just awesome the game isn't even out! :dumb:
...
 Post #804
 12th November 2008
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May 2006
16,867 Posts
MasturChef posted:
Already a Trilogy? That's just awesome the game isn't even out! :dumb:
...


You can plan a trilogy before releasing something you know.
 Post #805
 12th November 2008
Iced's Avatar
January 2007
1,642 Posts
7.3 :lepard:
 Post #806
 12th November 2008
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fewes's Avatar
December 2006
2,242 Posts
The Gamespot review sucked, big time.
 Post #807
 12th November 2008
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January 2007
7,258 Posts
Sams Brume posted:
You know how long Mirror's Edge is already? Is it out already?
Um, yes I do. Incase you haven't seen reviewers get pre-release copies and there are already about 5-10 reviews completed for the game. The general consensus on how long it takes to beat the entire game is about 5-6 hours for the first time play-through.

Edit:

ijyt posted:
Neither do those other games. That, and I can finish HL2 in an afternoon, so I have no idea where you got 15 hours from.

Anyway, my point stands. If it's short god forbid it being any good unless it's made my the all holy Valve.
You didn't read my post did you? It's about getting the bang for your buck.

No matter how good you think Portal is, or Episode 2 is, they are not worth $60 in value.

HL2 took me 15 hours to beat on my first play through. Sure I could beat it an an afternoon now if I went at it, but when you play it the first time it's not the same.

It's a very meaty single player expereince, couple that with the fact that the full $50 package also included a full multiplayer game for it's first release, which made it worth the value. The fact that it was a great game only was icing on the cake, because you got a meaty expereince for your value that also tasted good.

HL2 Episode 2, Portal, and TF2 were all included in a big meaty $60 value box (I'm going to assume the HL2 and Episode 1 additions are to be considered free for the sake of the example). You get a good 4-5 hour long expereince with Episode 2 for the first play through, a good 4-5 hour experience with Portal the first play through and doing all the misc challenges (that's already about 10 hours worth of singleplayer experience), AND you get TF2, which I've personally spent a good 40-50 hours playing total. That's a good deal for $60, a VERY good deal especailly considering the games included are absolutely great.

However, with Mirrors edge, we get a 6 or so hour experience for the first play through INCLUDING all the challegnes (although there is light replayablity there if you're the kind of person who likes to constantly try to get a better score or loves speedruns), and that's it. But, you still have to pay a full $60 price tag (Episode 2 and portal by themselves only had a value of $20-$30 to compaire on release, which is more than half the price of Mirror's Edge.). Even if the expereince of gameplay is great and flawless (which it isn't, but overall is very good), it doesn't help the fact that for your money you're getting a cheapened expereince.

This game is worth a rent only in my eyes. A game that would be great to play, but once you are done you are done, and something like that is not worth a full $60 price tag if the longevity of the game is only 6 or so hours before you've done all there is. The only games I enjoy replaying are open ended expereinces like Oblivion personally.
 Post #808
 12th November 2008
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December 2006
2,242 Posts
Stupid Sweden selling this game for 92$... I never even got my pre-order code! Or my runner bag! Fucking Gamestop...
 Post #809
 12th November 2008
Dennab
June 2007
2,362 Posts
Sams Brume posted:
You know how long Mirror's Edge is already? Is it out already?
In U.S. it came out yesterday.
 Post #810
 12th November 2008
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April 2008
292 Posts
Picked this up and was super excited for it. Disappointed is not the word, it's certainly fast paced and fun but there's been a few problems for me.

Firstly, there's times where you have no idea at all where to go. I didn't know about the HIT B BUTTON TO LOOK IN RIGHT DIRECTION at first and I thought I was paying good attention. Even with that option, it's still hard to figure out at times.

Second, you best my having a spare controller because you're going to break one from frustration. This game has had me fuming by the second chapter, it expects you to trial & error everything consistently throughout the story and it's not very forgiving. There's also been a few times where Faith decides to not run on walls, catch a ledge, and just fall to her death thanks to some non-responsive controls.

Besides those two problems, when the game is good, it's good. It had me at the edge of my seat during a nice gun fight and being chased by blues. I'd rather keep running around though than having to deal with all these stupid puzzles that depend on you dying 1,000,000 times.

AND now on Chapter 4, I'm stuck yet again with some puzzle that is really impossible to figure out.
 Post #811
 12th November 2008
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January 2008
9,589 Posts
ijyt posted:
That was freaking epic.

Edit:



14th UK, 13th Europe, 11th US.
The commercial says the 13th here in yankland.
 Post #812
 12th November 2008
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April 2007
8,143 Posts
What the hell I just saw a commercial here on swedish TV it's 00:03 AM here now and I was like WHAT THE FUCK HOW CAN THEY ALREADY HAVE IT?! so I went to the online store to check if they had it and it said... Guess what..?


PREORDER NOW
 Post #813
 12th November 2008
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March 2008
11,691 Posts
mastermaul posted:
The commercial says the 13th here in yankland.
Haha, no it doesn't.
 Post #814
 12th November 2008
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September 2008
7,653 Posts
Meh,got 6/10 on Plyr
 Post #815
 12th November 2008
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Turbis's Avatar
April 2007
8,143 Posts
What?! PC version in Janusari!?!?! Is this so they can fill it with all the DRM crap that shit on my computor!?
 Post #816
 12th November 2008
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January 2008
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LEETSEPEAK posted:
Haha, no it doesn't.

"IN STORES NOVEMBER 13TH."
 Post #817
 12th November 2008
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April 2007
8,143 Posts
mastermaul posted:
That's the same as we have in sweden Except it says "I butikerna nu" (In stores now) and we don't have that creepy "Rated T for teen" guy.
 Post #818
 12th November 2008
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March 2008
11,691 Posts
mastermaul posted:
I was just watching TV about an hour ago and it said "In stores now"
 Post #819
 12th November 2008
Gold Member
Dennab
July 2005
16,903 Posts
I have this pre-ordered but I have to wait til christmas.
 Post #820
 12th November 2008
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September 2007
2,737 Posts
Damn, this was a game I was really looking forward to.

Can anybody explain the story to me? Reviews don't explain anything about the Plot.
 Post #821
 12th November 2008
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January 2008
9,589 Posts
Safari posted:
Damn, this was a game I was really looking forward to.

Can anybody explain the story to me? Reviews don't explain anything about the Plot.
Blah blah blah conformist government blah blah blah hot Asian chick blah blah blah running packages across rooftops because all other forms of communication are monitored blah blah blah awesome.
 Post #822
 13th November 2008
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April 2008
3,161 Posts
Bitches better give me my Runner's Bag with my PC copy
 Post #823
 13th November 2008
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July 2006
1,758 Posts
LeYang posted:
Bitches better give me my Runner's Bag with my PC copy
they may have better pre-order stuff by next year :D that's the least they can do for pc users since we don't get it till then.
 Post #824
 13th November 2008
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April 2008
292 Posts
Is nobody else at FP playing this already? I'm super, super stumped to the point where I may never play the game again because I'm ready to give up.    Chapter 7, in the room with the objective: get to the top deck.   
Help?
 Post #825
 13th November 2008
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ijyt's Avatar
May 2006
16,867 Posts
HEATHLOLDGER posted:
Is nobody else at FP playing this already? I'm super, super stumped to the point where I may never play the game again because I'm ready to give up.    Chapter 7, in the room with the objective: get to the top deck.   
Help?
it's [sp][/sp] ass.

Though that's the worst spoiler ever.
 Post #826
 13th November 2008
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May 2007
2,955 Posts
VG gave it a 5 out of 6, the reviewer said he was going to slaughter it after the first play through, but he said he did a second one which completely changed his opinion!
 Post #827
 13th November 2008
Single NA's Avatar
August 2008
1,084 Posts
I'm stuck on the part where     Ropeburn comes charging at you with a pole, what do I do? :v:   
 Post #828
 13th November 2008
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September 2006
369 Posts
Single NA posted:
I'm stuck on the part where     Ropeburn comes charging at you with a pole, what do I do? :v:   
Disarm him?
 Post #829
 13th November 2008
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November 2008
79 Posts
KorJax posted:
Um, yes I do. Incase you haven't seen reviewers get pre-release copies and there are already about 5-10 reviews completed for the game. The general consensus on how long it takes to beat the entire game is about 5-6 hours for the first time play-through.

Edit:



You didn't read my post did you? It's about getting the bang for your buck.

No matter how good you think Portal is, or Episode 2 is, they are not worth $60 in value.

HL2 took me 15 hours to beat on my first play through. Sure I could beat it an an afternoon now if I went at it, but when you play it the first time it's not the same.

It's a very meaty single player expereince, couple that with the fact that the full $50 package also included a full multiplayer game for it's first release, which made it worth the value. The fact that it was a great game only was icing on the cake, because you got a meaty expereince for your value that also tasted good.

HL2 Episode 2, Portal, and TF2 were all included in a big meaty $60 value box (I'm going to assume the HL2 and Episode 1 additions are to be considered free for the sake of the example). You get a good 4-5 hour long expereince with Episode 2 for the first play through, a good 4-5 hour experience with Portal the first play through and doing all the misc challenges (that's already about 10 hours worth of singleplayer experience), AND you get TF2, which I've personally spent a good 40-50 hours playing total. That's a good deal for $60, a VERY good deal especailly considering the games included are absolutely great.

However, with Mirrors edge, we get a 6 or so hour experience for the first play through INCLUDING all the challegnes (although there is light replayablity there if you're the kind of person who likes to constantly try to get a better score or loves speedruns), and that's it. But, you still have to pay a full $60 price tag (Episode 2 and portal by themselves only had a value of $20-$30 to compaire on release, which is more than half the price of Mirror's Edge.). Even if the expereince of gameplay is great and flawless (which it isn't, but overall is very good), it doesn't help the fact that for your money you're getting a cheapened expereince.

This game is worth a rent only in my eyes. A game that would be great to play, but once you are done you are done, and something like that is not worth a full $60 price tag if the longevity of the game is only 6 or so hours before you've done all there is. The only games I enjoy replaying are open ended expereinces like Oblivion personally.
HL2 only took me 6 hours to complete on hard the first time through and I really bought it for the multiplayer and mods. This freerunner shit looks tight, and unless they are distributing it online its hard to bring that box set price down.
 Post #830
 13th November 2008
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October 2007
10,347 Posts
I've just been out with my mate to buy it. I was thinking about buying it, but then I wouldn't have any money left for the entire month.
 Post #831
 13th November 2008
Dennab
October 2008
1,107 Posts
ImMac posted:
I've just been out with my mate to buy it. I was thinking about buying it, but then I wouldn't have any money left for the entire month.
Wait what
buy it from where?
Or you mean you went to his house [or opposite] and thought about pre ordering it?
 Post #832
 13th November 2008
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October 2007
10,347 Posts
MasturChef posted:
Wait what
buy it from where?
Or you mean you went to his house [or opposite] and thought about pre ordering it?
What? He bought it at Blockbuster. They started selling it today.
 Post #833
 13th November 2008
Photo Shop's Avatar
May 2007
1,409 Posts
Seems I've been taking steam for granted. Looks like for once I'm going to have to get my fat ass to the store to get this gem.
 Post #834
 13th November 2008
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February 2008
4,221 Posts
Is it out in Europe already? Does it ship to all the countries in the same day?
 Post #835
 13th November 2008
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November 2005
1,502 Posts
LEETSEPEAK posted:
I was just watching TV about an hour ago and it said "In stores now"
It said November 13th before they changed it.
 Post #836
 13th November 2008
Dennab
August 2006
204 Posts
I got it today woo !
 Post #837
 13th November 2008
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December 2006
2,242 Posts
God, I do love the sight of red ring of death right when you're about to play one of your most awaited games of the whole year.

FUCK - YOU MICROSOFT YOU GOD DAMN CHEAPSKATES
 Post #838
 13th November 2008
Memphisbell's Avatar
September 2008
527 Posts
And hastings is out of copies.

Wonderful.
 Post #839
 13th November 2008
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October 2007
4,006 Posts
Also it has good music.

 Post #840
 13th November 2008
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July 2007
1,233 Posts
KorJax posted:
Um, yes I do. Incase you haven't seen reviewers get pre-release copies and there are already about 5-10 reviews completed for the game. The general consensus on how long it takes to beat the entire game is about 5-6 hours for the first time play-through.
Mostly calling you out on your comment on length, but first- why would you give us your opinion of the game if it's based on a review or two? Just link us to the reviews and be done with it.

But uh- getting on your criticisms that it isn't "meaty enough"- you were aware it had a time-trial mode when you bought it. If you bought it. If you haven't, well, you at least know it has one. You need to then keep in mind that some people are buying the game for all of the ways it can be played, not just the one mode you chose.

It makes a comparison to say, the Orange Box, lopsided. You mentioned most of the ways one can play that. Invert the scenario- I am not a very big fan of online shooters, they tend to bore me. I haven't actually even tried TF2 out of sheer apathy for the genre, watching it bores me to tears. We'll pretend I hadn't played HL2 and all that yet (you GREATLY exaggerate their length). Were I to buy the Orange Box, the entire package would feel very hollow, just a breeze through the singleplayer stuff, and no real replay value. Overall it'd feel like a rip.

Instead of saying Mirror's Edge isn't long enough, just say you got bored of it and didn't feel like doing the time trials and such. It's better advice for a potential buyer, and it doesn't come off so horribly genre-biased.
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