This is my first post.. Probubly my last before i get banned but, oh well., Not much for forums were i cant talk without being constantly worried for being banned.
First things first: Eat my spelling and grammar cuz this aint school i aint gettin paied for this and truly I DONT CARE!.
GREAT with all that B.S. out of they way...

Down to buisness...

2 days ago i recieved an invite to a group: LinBins4Gmod. Ive taken a look at this "movement" and have come to my conclusion.
#1. I dont know "garry" and have no intrest in meeting him.
#2. I love gmod.
#3. I dont know the person who invited me to this linb group and have NO respect WHATSOEVER for the dumbass who did.
Trying to pull me blindly into a cause i have nothing to do with and NO INTREST IN! Politics and there crowniees do the same stupid crap and as stated before: NO RESPECT.

#4. This is they only aspect for his whole political "fart" i have somthing to say about.
a. "Money" that what this is boiling down to. "garry" is making money and now people think "stupidly" that since there paying for this game they can demand things.
YA... do me a favor go to "FORD" and buy a car. Then go back and "demand" that the car gets 999 m.p.g. and is hydro complient. Tell me how far you get!

Way things are: you get what you paied for!

What I expect: A safe and stable game that will not cause me or my computer damage. gmod can be vary dangerous dont get me wrong... and if i ever suffer damage that can be directly linked to gmod, i will sue the "millions" out of "garry". Other than that... Cheers "garry" love your game! Look forward to additions.

P.s. To "garry" there is a group requesting binary for linux. If you got time can we work on somting... If not oh well customer sirvice is your ball in your court.



Thank you all: 233S7^y3R

Edit:

p.s. the reason i brought it up here is because this forum is how the person found me and was used as a facet to contact me.

why do you say "garry", it's his real name...


I agree with you, I received an invite from some guy I've never seen. Just do what you would to any random group you disagree with, decline it and move on.

I got that invite too.

Calm down, if you don't agree with it don't join it. If they invite a lot of GMod players then they can see truly how many people want the Linux binaries, it's not like it's a huge inconvenience to you.

It's getting really annoying for me. I've declined every request and yet they still believe it's a good idea to send me another invite. I don't even know what the hell Linux or a Binary is!

I am sorry if I seem agitated.

Im not a regular here if you knew me you would know the passion in which i live my life. Trust me this is not me pissed off. Most dont like me pissed.

My point is the way this group of people are going about it. Im not just flying off the handle here. I studied this issue for 2 days and looked up info on the people behind it. Bottom line... well you get my point...

I understand what there trying to do and why. The way in wich they have chosen to address it is...fail... and the worst thing they could of done was contact me for help in this way. ...Leave sleeping dogs lie...


Thank you.
233S7^y3R

(grrr woof woof)

Just deny it, don't have to get pissy.

"MOTHER FUCKERS SENT ME AN INVITE I CAN'T BELIEVE IT I DON'T WANT AN INVITE ASSFUCKS!"

Linux is garbage. Fuck failure Linux binary's.

I was invited to the group, and since I actually KNOW what Linux and binaries are, and would LOVE to have Linux binaries, I joined. However, when I went on the group chat, almost everyone chatting had NO IDEA what the hell LinBins are!!!!

So I'll explain:

Linux - In my opinion (and a LOT of others opinions) the best operating system ever made. Completely free (just download it and install it, unlike Windows, where you need to pay #200+ for it), immune to ALL viruses (no viruses affect it), the most secure operating system, open source (so you can edit any part of the operating system and redistribute it), mostly every program is completely FREE, etc. Although mostly used in servers because of it's excellent security, interest in using Linux as a desktop OS has been growing over the past few years since it's much more stable and secure than Windows.

Binary - A Linux executable file. The Linux equivalent of the .EXE file in Windows. Basically, a program you run.

Linux Binaries for Garry's Mod - A request to have the Garry's Mod server program that runs a server made for Linux. Currently, the Gmod server only runs on Windows.

Since Linux is much more secure and faster than Windows, many people run their gaming servers on Linux. Counter-Strike: Source, the Call of Duty games, even Garry's Mod 9, and most PC games that use dedicated servers all have Linux binaries available so people can run servers on Linux.

The reason I would like Gmod server binaries for Linux is because I plan to run a Gmod server on my PlayStation 3. Since the PS3 fully supports Linux, and since the PS3 is considered a "supercomputer" due to it's advanced processor, a game server would run so damn fast on it :D However, since there are no Linux binaries, I have to emulate the Windows version with Wine (a Linux program that runs Windows software, but it can be buggy at times).

Don't listen to people that say "Linux sucks!!!!", most of the time they say that because they don't even understand how the hell to use Linux!

Go die in a fire please.

Incorrect. There are viruses for Linux and they are MUCH nastier than their Windows counterparts.

Linux is secure if the person that runs it knows what they're doing. A default Linux installation is horridly insecure and can be easily exploited and hacked into. Most distros these days enable firewalling and set SELinux to settings that are more secure, but aren't bulletproof.

"Linux Binaries" for SRCDS servers is a bit misleading. The binaries are actually libraries that SRCDS runs, not a standalone executable. *.so files are more like *.dlls in Windows because you can't directly run them.

Like I said before, Linux is only as secure as the user that's running it knows how. And on the contrary, Linux servers require much more overhead than a Windows server in the memory department depending on what what distro and if you have a GUI installed or not.

You are very incorrect to assume that just because a PS3 can run Linux, it can run all Linux programs. SRCDS is programmed for and runs on x86 processors. The Cell Broadband Engine in the PS3 is a PowerPC / Custom design and will not run x86 applications without emulation.

Emulating a x86 processor on a PowerPC takes a huge performance hit so all of the speed that you think you get will be lost. There is also the issue that the PS3 doesn't have enough memory to run a SRCDS server. With 256 MB, Linux would take up most of it and even if you could get SRCDS to run on it (which would never happen) it would be so slow that nobody would even want to touch it.

Linux is for people who know what they're talking about and doing, and you seem to not know much about Linux judging from your post.

Only an idiot would have a GUI running on a Linux server all the time. Granted, a quick session through VNC with KDE running is excellent if you have a lot to get done, and can't be arsed with loads of commands.

I'm totally for Linux Bins so I can switch back to Debian.

My server currently uses Win2003 because of GMod. And I must say it is really complicated to configure the IIS Webserver there which also randomly is "Unreachable".
With apache, this didn't happen on Linux. But sadly I can't just switch Apache on Windows because it's too much to do then.


Not to forget, the GUI of Win2k3 eats Memory I better get used with my background-services instead.

It's annoying that they don't exist because now there's only a few dedicated server hosts offering hosting to the many people who do want hosting, and they can offer easily over the top rates.

Renting a standard Linux dedicated box in a datacentre somewhere with somewhat decent specs can be fairly cheap and would give you quite a lot of slots with which to play with.

The Windows equivalent would be quite a lot more expensive and probably slower as I'm sure you need a GUI under windows where under Linux you can do a non-GUI install and that thus saves resources.

I don't give a shit how long it takes or how many people that have to suck garry's cock, as long as I can run Garry's Mod on gentoo.

I can;t believe I'm saying this.. but, I agree.

Only an idiot would have the GUI running on a Windows server all the time.

Linux sucks get a real OS hippies

To borrow the car analogy, it's like we are buying a car from Ford(garry), it's an ordinary car except for the tires (server binaries).
You see the tires require a special socket to attach, and it just so happens only one manufacturer makes tires that are complaint with this socket (Windows).

The car still works, and no other type of tires are 'needed' as the car still performs its function.
So all the people who buy this car from Ford are stuck having to purchase from this one manufacturer for all of the life of their car.
These tires however are twice expensive as another common type of tire(linux), even though the only difference is the socket.

Consumer's are pissed(linux people), it's revealed that it's fairly simple for Ford to convert their cars so they can use both of the different type of tire.
Ford responds with "it isn't needed, your car still works, you can still drive it".
Consumers say "But i want to be able to use different tires!"
Ford still says "it isn't needed."
Ford then ignores all reason and evidence to support the benefit of different tires, while still responding with the same rhetoric of it not being needed.

This obviously leaves some things out of the situation, such as garry promising linux binaries 'soon' and then never delivered etc.
But this is more or less exactly what's going on.

Garry I don't mean to be mean. But most of your replies are, you like wieners because you want Linux. Or you are stupid because you want/have a Linux server.

The things you say are right. But I think you are "flaming" him.
The way I see it is that he's just trying to tell non-computer people what the hell Linux is in a way they understand. Which He succeeds in.

While it's true that Linux is faster, more secure, and more efficient, for the sake of this argument I'll only say that renting a Linux server is a whole lot cheaper than renting a Windows server. Plus you get no support at all for a Windows server, and that isn't very convenient at all. Maybe if you're a college dropout and have all the time in the world (ahem, Garry), but I have a job and school to go to. I don't have time.
Linux servers are cheaper--end of story. You can't deny that, and you can't try to prove me wrong. That's why we want Linux server binaries. Why have a suggestions forum if you're just going to say "no" to something as sensible as that? Most of the suggestions you get are for ridiculous things like water physics and Euphoria integration, but this is easily doable.
Everyone saying that "Linux sucks" and "Linux is garbage" has no idea what they're talking about. Have you tried Linux? For servers? For desktops? How recently--was X included yet? Some people prefer Windows Vista to Windows XP, and some people prefer XP to Vista. The same thing is with Linux--it's just a matter of personal preference. This is not the issue here, though, and your derogatory remarks against Linux are completely irrelevant. Linux server binaries for GMod will do nothing negative to you, so why are you complaining like it's the end of the world?
If you have all this time to argue, Garry, surely you must have the time to do a simple compile on Linux. In fact, you could already be done by now--you could have been done weeks ago. Don't give us a bunch of bullshit about all this testing you have to do before you update, because we don't mind a few bugs. You just compile it and send it to Valve. It's just that easy.
What I don't get is why you completely ignore our side of the argument. Linux servers are cheaper, and I (for one) cannot afford the extra cash it costs per month. It all adds up. You cannot deny that Linux servers are cheaper, and you cannot deny that some of us (like me) cannot afford the extra money to rent a Windows server. You can't deny it, and you can't ignore it. So please, would it kill you to make us some Linux server binaries?

You can't just go against the flow by using Linux, claim you are cool then complain when everything isn't compatible with it.

hmm, i need to et a word in this, I am a Windows user, i own a Linux computer and i like it. its true that a linux is much faster, example in the startup, my linux have 192mb ram and a 500Mhz CPU, my Windows have 2gig ram and a 2Ghz cpu, the linux is so mush faster anyway.. if it will come linux bin's, i will try and get my hands on a better linux computer and start a server. its better! why can't anyone except the linux users understand that? sure, you can't play on Linux, not the same way, but its way better than windows when its down to servers.

I'm not. I use Linux for servers because they're cheaper, it's as simple as that. I don't use Linux so that I'm "cool" or so that I look like an "uber hacker", I just use it because it doesn't burn such a big hole in my pocket as Windows does.

Fair enough we are all on a budget of some sort. I guess Linux would be better for servers as it easier to make into a bare bones, do what you want OS than Windows.

Looks like someone made this

http://steamcommunity.com/groups/LinBins4gmod

It already have 3800 members, quite growing fast

I'm not flaming him, I'm pointing out that he is wrong. He may be trying to explain what Linux is to computer illiterate people but that doesn't make him any more right.

If you mean by "succeed" as in blathering incoherent and totally wrong information about Linux, then you are correct.

God! you people have no idea what you're talking about. Almost everyone asking for Linux binaries uses Windows. We're not asking Garry to port the game to linux, we're asking him to port the server client to linux. Every other game does this! Gmod is the only game without a linux server client! We aren't just some gay linux ass holes asking garry to do something that has never been done before. We want Linux because it's dirt cheap!

Stop being so fucking lazy garry, stop being so childish, stop being such an asshole, stop being an ignorant prick.
Your cynical opinions have no depth, they're uninsightful and irrelevant.

Here's the tutorial, stop being such a bitch, man the fuck up and do it.

Get it? the peoples DRIVE?!
But Tigger raises a good point.

And for all your people who are telling "hippies" to use a "real operating system", get it into your head that we are not asking for files to play Garry's mod on linux, merely the server binaries so that dedicated servers can be hosted on a cheaper, more secure, faster platform. It would actually be BENEFICIAL to you, if anything.

Jesus fucking Christ, people just can't take No for an answer can they? Garry practically said "No, I will never make them." just by closing the other thread..

Thanks to be nice to me.

And if you can tell me how to run srcds on a win2k3 machine without having the gui loaded, you'll get a cookie :)

Edit:

And before I forget: Garry, once you made linux binaries for GMod10 on the old source engine (available via SVN).

Why have you stopped them? I know, they were horribly unstable or even can't load. But it was a good step into the right direction.

When the only answer he gives is ambiguous and founded on opinion rather than fact, why should we take No for an answer?
We can't all be pessimists like you, ever heard of 'out of sight, out of mind'?
As soon as garry isn't reminded of the fact that there's community need for linux binaries then he'll gladly forget about it and maybe then we'll truly never see them.

Ctrl + Alt + Del -> Task Manager -> Kill Explorer.exe.

Garry, I would recommend you to do Linux Bins for gmod the windows servers are fucked up expensive for normal users to pay that. Me self are using Linux Debian 4.0 Etch Minimal Rootserver and this Emulation shit WINE is 1 of the biggest useless bullshit i ever saw! if you wont do maybe some people will try to do some..

That doesn't kill the GUI, just the bit that draws the start menu and desktop icons. Has anyone tried F10 just after the boot screen? (Starts in console mode.)

Saves 20-30 MB. But worth a try. -> Get your free cookie.

Edit:
Gimme the cookie back. Accidentally closing the task manager prevents me from restarting the GUI when I need it. (Connected via Remotedesktop)

What if everyone would make a thread about that they've been invited to a group they don't want?

http://www.somedude.net/gamemonkey/f...174&p=728#p728

:'(

Oh lol, I joined that group. but I am a group whore, just look at like the 30+ groups I'm in. But people invite me, I don't go to the page and join. I think I was invite to the loony4binds because I was asking what linux was on a shit PB server, where some of them think PB 'OWNS' Garry's Mod, I'm like "No, a rip of garry's mod in HL2DM is not owning the Garry's Mod."

Tell the remote desktop session to send a ctrl + alt + del to the server and start explorer.exe again, not that hard.

Yea, sorry. Next time I'll use a lot of advanced subjects that only people who know what Linux is would understand, throw in some mumbo jumbo about .so files and processor differentiations, and say "Linux is secure and stable if you know what your doing" to explain to people who have never heard of Linux what it actually is... yea, everyone would understand that!

Look whose wrong now, the PS3 has 512MB RAM! Not 256mb RAM!

And I know using QEMU to emulate the processor and Wine to run SRCDS will use a lot of resources, but I just want to see if it will run better than the last computer I ran SRCDS on (a 6 year old Compaq PC, 256MB RAM, AMD Athlon XP 1.4ghz processor)

Also, you claimed there ARE viruses for Linux that are "nastier" than Windows viruses... and yet I have yet to find one.

Again, you are wrong, because the only thing Linux has is small security holes or bugs. They are pretty severe (like one hole where you compile some C code, run the compiled file, and get instant root access, but it's been patched), but there are, by FAR, less security holes in Linux than Windows.

Plus, when I heard about that specific security bug (the instant root access one), I knew within a day a patched kernel would be out, and it was! Meanwhile, it takes Microsoft weeks, even months or YEARS to fix holes.

You remind me of this...

I explained Linux properly unlike you did. Whether or not people choose to understand or learn about Linux is their choice. You're just butthurt because someone told you that you were wrong.

Wrong. The PS3 has 512MB of memory total but only 256 MB of it is system memory, the other 256 MB is dedicated graphics memory.

Why would you use WINE inside of a QEMU session? All you do is install a Windows OS inside of QEMU. For the PS3 to have to emulate x86 instructions and run an OS inside of an OS, I can guarantee you that it will be on an order of magnitude 100 times slower than a native x86 processor and unless you have some enormous swapfile partition it won't work period.

Just because you haven't seen it doesn't mean that it doesn't exist. That's like saying "Hey, I've never seen Russia before, so it doesn't exist."

You say there are small security holes and that they give you root access? I would consider that to be a pretty major security breach, especially on servers that have very sensitive information. How would you like it if some hacker exploited into your server and stole top secret files and put you out of business?

It doesn't matter if it was patched the next day, the fact that it was there proves that Linux isn't the iron clad battleship that you make it out to be, it has flaws just like anything else does.

Like I said, you're butthurt because you got proven wrong. You can flame anyone all you want, it's not going to change anything.

You suck at linux because you do not know how to use it.

Damn, there is a lot of fuckin nerds in this world.

Yup i was randomly invited too.
The good thing is i was planing on a Garry's Mod server on LINUX and only now i find out there are no Linux lib & i demand some.
The problem @ win servers is the tic rate...
Good day.

"Not having support for linux would be a major bummer". There's a demand, but where's the supply? The help is there too, there's plenty of Linux experts around who can help with this.

If you care about what the community want, you'll at least give Linux server binaries a good go. If you don't, you're wasting your own time coding this game.

Give us reasons, not excuses.

I don't think this "people's drive" is gonna help much anyway since it has a lot of people who don't know anything about linux. Would they would step up and move with the entire group?

Translation: Do NOT want linbins. Do not want.

Ya know.

People that make demands, shout, while they crave that others work harder, and act like they're the boss when they in reality have no power... Tends to be purposefully ignored

I mean, if I were Garry right there I'd just go

"heh, yeah. keep saying that"

That's what we say every time we're given yet another excuse.

So far, we've been given no genuine reason as to why the Linux platform can't have server binaries. All we've had are childish remarks and a few comments which demonstrate someone who's totally out of touch with his game's community.

I think most Linux Binary supporters understand that nobody can be forced to do anything, but when we're faced with such ridiculous circumstances, we need to demonstrate how serious we are.

This subject is going to pop up again, and again, and again, and again, until the developer decides to do what a majority of the community would like, not what is easiest for him.

Linux binaries are a good thing, but most of the retards demanding them are demanding them for all the wrong reasons. It's simple, when a game server runs on Linux, you suddenly get a LOT more server hosting options opened up to you. It's not because of stability, it's not because GNOME/KDE/whatever is supposedly better than Windows Explorer, it's not because the development environment is supposedly better, it's simply that there are way more game server hosts that do game server hosting on Linux than Windows. By providing Linux binaries, suddenly there are tons more game server hosts willing to host Garry's Mod.

Unfortunately, Garry apparently has way too many issues getting GMod to compile on Linux, and thinks that the server population GMod already has is 'enough' so we're probably stuck with his decision. I disagree with his assesment of how many servers is 'enough', but since it's not my game and he already has my ten bucks I don't really have a lot of say in the matter.

The problem comes in when you have retarded activists trying to come in thinking that they can "force" garry to create one under community pressure. Hey retards, you're just going to piss him off and make him not create one out of spite as opposed to any practical reason. Stop this shit, seriously.

Each time one of these threads pop up, Garry has just the more reason not to.

For all of those people that keep posting the link to the Linux binary compile tutorial on the VDC, don't say "HEY! It's as easy as 1, 2, 3!" I've done it before for the Empires Mod LinBins and it's far from easy. It takes hours of dicking around with the makefile and if you're lucky and it wants to behave, GCC won't cause a segmentation fault and you'll get a working VCPROJ converter.

The nightmare begins there. The VCPROJ converter on Linux is EXTREMELY buggy and often segfaults for the simplest reasons. You usually also have to recode parts of the mod before it will compile correctly (namely stuff in math.cpp and some other math related files) which is a pain in the ass.

I really hope garry doesn't make the binarys, I like the whining idiots.

Especially GiGaBiTe... he just has to flame ANYONE who tries to boil down advanced subjects to basic concepts so normal people understand. Half of the shit he said is wrong to, but I know if I address it, he'll whine like the kid he is... :(

I think the only thing WRONG that I said was the whole PS3 thing... after doing some Google searches I figured out it's a bit more complicated than simply running hldsupdatetool under Wine (now watch GiGaBiTe as he flames this post and says shit like "BS, you were wrong about everything..."

You are playing GARRY'S Mod.

You do not make demands to Garry because it is his mod.


Honestly, "Force"?
You cannot force Garry neither Valve to do anything. You play their games, and they make the rules.

That's how democracy actually works. Unpleased people drive the "authorities" to act - Until they react.

I can't remember where I read that.

GiGaBiTe doesn't flame anyone. And even if (and only if) half of it's shit he said is wrong, still half of his words are correct - More than for anyone else within this thread.

And I can understand GiGaBiTe: So much idiots come in here and start trolling just because they hear "linux".

Edit:

VALVE quite often listened to their community. If you don't, you'll lose them. Losing the community means losing money.

And what you describe is a dictatorship.


Just an idea: If garry moved completely to his home, he could take one total week of figuring out to make the linux binaries work. If he seriously can't get around it ok.
But I know he is able to because he is quite intelligent.

No it's more of a, Jehovah witness spam everyone with invites, that gets people annoyed at your group.

It's Garrys game, he doesn't have to add a feature. VALVe also certainly doesn't have to listen to ha bunch of whiners.

A community is not 50 people. 50 people makes about 2% of Gmod, and .00001% of Valve.

You are asking Garry to take a whole week of his time devoted to one obscure feature which will be fucking glitchy, rather than tweaking the game just right on his own time.

What I describe is Facepunch.

The rules have such a part - But with a totally different context.
So you post doesn't fit to our conversation.

agree, totally.. he is a smart person, come on he made Garrys mod! so, why don't he just go to a "Vacation" and fix the files? why don't he ask someone else do help him?

Seriosuly, I was talking about his statements. Not about this silly steamcommunity group.

It takes more than a week to integrate such a feature.

That's Team Garry's time and I believe they are more devoted to polishing and fixing the game rather than branching obscure features for the few.

But it is not for the few.. Server hosts get cheaper servers, and everyone else (the players) get more stability, more options, more servers to play on.

Why fix what isn't broken?

He constantly adds new features and works on GMod. Why not to invest the time on this issue?

50 people may complain. The other 1000 do not know this thread. And you forgot about the rest which profits from linux binaries (Every single gamer who will then play on those servers)

Yeah, I'm kindly asking him to spend a few time on it. He actually wasted his time with other features like moving the umsg/NWVar system to stringtables before (He said this himself and he abandonned this method). So he can invest time in linbins.

And who the hell has said the linux binaries will be fucking glitchy - I think you have absolutely no idea what you are talking about.

1000 my wrinkly ass. You have already asked kindly and he has said no.

You have asked him not so kindly and he has said no. Get the hint.
Yes, cause every piece of software works 100% perfectly all the time.

It's his game not yours, he chose Windows servers not yours.
He can do what he want's because it's his game and if your so passionate about making linux servers, make your own GMOD.

1000 are not 0. And he just said "no" without giving any reasons why. He is able to do it.

With this irony you hurt yourself.
This includes windows software. So the windows binaries are fucking glitchy too?
Get the hint?

I'll better ignore you now or this fight will never end.
Fact is, linux binaries are possible and the community (except for some moaners) wants them.

Let me try to hammer this into your head.

His game, His choice.

Deal with this.

If everyone was as submissive as you, there would be nothing new, ever.

This is indeed his game, but we can still request features for it.

You can request features because he lets you request them, but he doesn't have to do them.

You've requested, he's said no.

Deal with it.

Would you please just stop sucking garrys dick for a moment?
We're not all like you, when someone tries to fuck us in the ass we don't just roll over and bite the pillow.
Let me try and hammer this into your head, you and every other gmod player will benefit from linux binaries.
So take your retarded unfounded pessimism and fuck off already.

Yeah, I realize this, it's probably the most likely reason why he won't give us linux binaries.
Quite frankly i'd accept if he'd at least say that he's having problems trying to get them to compile but is working on it.
As long as he stops his stupid childish replies which just serve to infuriate rather than inform and provide us with real reasons.

How is Garry fucking us in the ass. He fucking made the game.

He said no, so fucking deal with it like a man or find a new game to play.

I'm not saying he's figuratively fucking us in the ass... well maybe, your ass, but not ours.
I'm saying if we all be carebears like yourself and go:
"Oh, i've asked him to stop fucking me up the ass but he's still going, so I'll just wait here patiently and hope he finishes soon =)"
If we request something of garry and he says 'no' when it's something as reasonable as this is he will never do it because his opinion won't change, because no ones giving him reason to.

He fucking made the game?
Are you shitting me? seriously? I totes did not know that.

Hey guess what?
I declare that you're a huge **fa*g*g*o*t.
You know what, I made that declaration, you want me to change it? No.
I made it, and I've said 'No' so by your logic you should fucking deal with it or find another forum.

All your posts in this thread are based on the "Garry rules, deal with it" idea. The thing is, this is very narrow minded. Are you too obedient to question things?

We don't view this as a fight against a dictatorship or anything over the top like that, what we're doing is standing up for what we believe to be a good cause.

If you can't accept our side of the debate, you're wasting your time. We understand yours, now understand ours.

Edit:

This is hardly helping demonstrate the Pro-Linux Binaries side's maturity. Try to keep comments like that to yourself, as the main problem we have is people letting the side down.

With Linux binaries, my group could host a bunch of pretty decent Gmod servers and that'd be pretty kickass as we have a very efficient development team in the group but right now we're not too convinced as we only have a Linux dedicated and our only other option would be to go with the Windows version of the same box, which is £50+ on top of what we're paying already, or host a single 16 slot server with some random Gmod hosting company for like £20 a server which takes ages to upload stuff to via FTP with no direct transfer via putty or similar.

Garry, porting the servers to Linux like you did GM9 will reduce lag somewhat(Server will be better able to process the game data, linux uses much less resources than windows), and will make servers much more stable. It shouldn't be too difficult to take the GM9 binaries, tweak them and release them for Gmod 10.

I think it's a little bit harder than that.

I just read through this entire joke of a thread and I have to say. Why the hell does Garry have to make the Linux binarys. Isn't this game open source and built to be modded? Why can't the 3000+ people whining and bitching about it just do it themselves.

I have very little experience in modding this game but from what I can see, in this game if you want something you make it. When people wanted nukes and spacebuild did they go whining and bitching to Garry about it? No. they made it themselves.

Now i understand that making garrysmod compatible with Linux would be a huge pain in the ass compared to making a nuke but still. If gmod came available to Linux I would be all over it in a heart beat. But it's not. So I am using XP pro 64 bit.

And to all the other people. This thread is some guys rant about how he doesn't care about the Linux binarys. Not about Linux security. Want to argue about how much more Linux or Windows is better or how Microsoft is Ub3r evil? Make your own damn thread or go join one of a million others just like it. Enough said.
I pronounce you a pussy if you continue to whine about this problem.