Or rather is there any way to make electricity out of it besides using detectors?
Hey everyone - we'd like to announce The Powder Toy 24.5.
New in this version:
+ Some bugfixes
+ When you're looking at your own saves, you can see how many votes they have.
+ Copy/Paste via Stamps -
Press S and drag a rectangle around the area you want to copy / save to your Stamps.
Press K to see your Stamps
Press L to reload the last selected stamp (especially useful if you're trying to paste something a bunch of times).
Once you've chosen/loaded a stamp, it'll appear under your cursor and you can paste it in by clicking.
Have fun, we hope you like the new release!
p.s. : You should be able to update from version 24.3 and up automatically, without going to the site - just start up the Powder Toy (if you're already in it, exit and open it again) and click the box that appears in the lower right asking you to update.
Woo automatic updating.
Now I don't have to check back with the thread to see if there's a new version.
The thread tells you the change log though, so it may be a good idea to check after an update.
Hmm, I get the automatic update box, so I click ok and have it updated, but then the next time I open the game, it says there's an update again even though I just updated. =/
Auto-Update does not work for me. It downloads the update, than closes and refuses to start up once. Than I start it up again and it wants to update again. The rectangle dragging for stamps cannot be dragged to the left.
Does anyone know how to modify the annoying particle limit? It's way too low :(
Ya, I hope it gets increased or something. Unless there's some restrictions.
Searching still doesn't work for me ;_;
I'd love to see physical solids.
That way you could simulate awesome stuff like gas operated guns or make little flying things
Can someone tell me how to make the fan tool work? I create it with the line tool but it doesn't seem to do anything at all :(
I agree with JeRK, solids which simulates physics would be quite awesome. I'm just afraid things would be able to fly through them :(
Well I am guessing part of the code simulation can come directly from the materials as they are, such as metal or wall (which at the right size don't let pressure and particles out), then it's just modeling variable physics.
I do agree solids would be a fantastic addition to this great game, just stuff like making guns and stuff.
Also perhaps solids could deform materials such as metal, ice etc (by deform I mean take a chunk out of them, perhaps judging the speed of the object as it's moving and converting that to a deletion limit. So say for instance you have a square solid, shot at high speed into a block of ice, the square solid would impact into the ice, deleting the ice with an automatically generated brush shape as it's moving.)
Would be cool to be able to simulate stuff like a bullet being shot through wood and the like,
First things first though, you really need to up the particle limit or allow the user to do it with a button combination like shift+numpad +.
One thing that would be nice is if you could save stuff locally and only share stuff you choose. This would be useful for when you are making something and don't want to share every revision as you build it.
Yeah it pretty much needs to check if the saves are still compatible with the version you're using.
Stamps persist through closing, they are all the local saving you will ever get.
One small thing. Please could we have a button to remove a stamp from the library?
@the few of you who had trouble updating:
What OS are you on, and are there any special circumstances affecting your installation of powder (did another user install it, did you move it anywhere weird, etc.)? It's probably some kind of local file permissions issue affecting your ability to upgrade - you'll just have to download the new version manually for now.
@people who still don't have working search:
There must be something broken somewhere in your network - are you behind a packet-inspection/modification firewall, or any kind of proxy? It's _very_ weird that search, of all things, is what isn't working - it's a dead-standard HTTP request, just like what you'd use to get any webpage.
This is nice, but there are afew features I'd really like to see - these could really make it spectacular! Listed from most important / feasible to least important / feasible:
1. Stamp deletion button. It's hard to tell which stamps are which so if you have a few (eg. all the standard logic gates) it will become incredibly hard and tedious to get rid of the correct ones. (Yes I know it saves the last stamp that was open, but that is tedious)
2. Naming / Tagging stamps or, more importantly, a local save system. We need to be able to organize our stamps.
3. This one's harder to implement but would be worth it. Have all the material data (simple ini file format) saved locally. Then attach any modified material inis that a user has to the saves they make, or make them publishable so that they can be shared across saves (maybe save them based on material name and a simple hash, like md5). If done correctly, this will change from being a mere toy to something where people can make really interesting materials and simulations, extending the possibilities of the engine greatly!
4. Temperature. It's not that much of a required feature, but here's the example I always use to test how good a particle simulator is: Make a basin of something that conducts heat, eg. metal. Fill it with water and dissolve salt/sand/etc. into the water. Put a tube leading up from that basin and back down to an empty basin. Then heat the metal. The water should evaporate into steam, then condense into the other basin - thereby leaving salt in the first one.
EDIT: @Tomb332: There is a slow but easy way to tell which stamp is the one to delete. Open powder, press K, then select the stamp you want to delete. Immediately cancel pasting it and close powder. Open stamps.def in the stamps folder - it should contain the name of the file of the stamp you just used. Delete that file, then start powder again and check the stamp library to see that its gone.
Idea - Custom Elements and Walls
Once you select the Custom Element/Wall you have a choice: A - Make a Custom Wall, B - Make a Custom Element or C - Load a Custom Element/Wall
When you make a Custom Element/Wall you are given a list of checkboxes that define the properties of your element/wall, Like conducts electricity, hightens pressure, creates electricity, is static etc.
Then you can name it, save it and use it.
Please make this mod-able.
Snip and stuff.
My first working flamethrower.
I got it a few days ago, this latest update with the stamp tool is incredible, makes it so much easier to build big chain reactions.
It has very good air-pressure physics.
I made a vacuum-thingy:
Is there a way to make the screen bigger besides changing your resolution?
Q: How do I make the window bigger
You can scale the window by a factor of two: pass powder scale:2. On Linux and Mac OS, this means running it from the command line or a run box - on Windows, this means making a shortcut to Powder.exe and adding scale:2 to the end of the Target line in the shortcut's properties.
Awesome game, I wish it had a bigger screen and more element except that, it's very fun.
Bump :D Love this game, don't want it to die...
Also I don't know if anyone has noticed but in the newer version, if fire is put under pressure it can sometimes turn to lava (and thereby cause metal to melt
Use a fan to create a lot of pressure against an object and either hold down the fire there or set off a block of C4 behind the fan so the fire gets sucked in