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 Post #1
 25th January 2009 Last edited by 1-800dialaki; 25th January 2009 at 10:17PM..
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December 2005
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I heard the news recently that, in the UK, where I live they are discussing removing the opt-in system for donors and bring in an opt-out system.
After seeing the film seven pounds, I couldn't help but think that donating is so important in healthcare and wondered what people thought about donating their own organs

In my opinion, I'm all for the opt-out system as it adds a guilt factor to not donating and I'm not that bothered about someone opening me up because I'll be dead.

source: presumed consent - http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/7729009.stm

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 Post #2
 25th January 2009 Last edited by Ryan2406; 25th January 2009 at 09:44PM.. (Caps filter bullshit)
Dennab
April 2008
2,302 Posts
I dont care if you have aids there is no opt out option!
 Post #3
 25th January 2009
Trogdon's Avatar
October 2007
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Guilt tripping people into doing something doesn't sound like a government thing.
 Post #4
 25th January 2009
chris0132's Avatar
June 2005
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Don't have a problem with it, and would be quite happy if it was a legal requirement.
 Post #5
 25th January 2009
Dennab
April 2008
2,302 Posts
Don't have a problem with it, and would be quite happy if it was a legal requirement.
Bullshit - People this is chris, He's got something against everything!
 Post #6
 25th January 2009
Dennab
July 2006
4,177 Posts
I'm an organ donor.
 Post #7
 25th January 2009
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September 2005
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Doesn't the Opt-in system involve qualifying you to donate organs upon death?
 Post #8
 25th January 2009 Last edited by chris0132; 25th January 2009 at 09:49PM..
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Bullshit - People this is chris, He's got something against everything!
Not this I don't, I'm a blood donor too, as I see it it's not as though I need all my blood so someone else may as well have it. Same goes for my organs. I'll be dead, it's not like I'm going to care.

Plus it makes it easier to pretend like I have a moral high horse to sit on when arguing things. Probably looks good on a CV too.
 Post #9
 25th January 2009
YoMother's Avatar
July 2005
7,892 Posts
I'm an organ donor and regular blood donor. When I'm dead I'm not gonna use it for anything either way so fuck it. You also get candy and sodas when donating blood.
 Post #10
 25th January 2009
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June 2005
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I'm an organ donor and regular blood donor. When I'm dead I'm not gonna use it for anything either way so fuck it. You also get candy and sodas when donating blood.
We get tea and biscuits over here.
 Post #11
 25th January 2009
YoMother's Avatar
July 2005
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We get tea and biscuits over here.
oh god you're so english
 Post #12
 25th January 2009
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January 2007
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I don't quite see what anyone's reasoning against organ donation is. Not like it matters when you're dead.
 Post #13
 25th January 2009 Last edited by chris0132; 25th January 2009 at 09:54PM..
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I don't quite see what anyone's reasoning against organ donation is. Not like it matters when you're dead.
Some people would argue otherwise.

But then some people would argue the earth is flat.
 Post #14
 25th January 2009
In my opinion, there is no greater thing than saving people with something you don't even need anymore.

Times that by most of your organs, and it's a win-win.

You don't need them.
You can save multiple people lives with them.

I'm a huge supporter.
 Post #15
 25th January 2009
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February 2006
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I don't care what happens to my body when I'm dead, I don't need it anymore. I'm glad they're making it opt-out instead of opt-in.
 Post #16
 25th January 2009 Last edited by chris0132; 25th January 2009 at 09:56PM..
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In my opinion, there is no greater thing than saving people with something you don't even need anymore.
I'd have said saving them with something you do need is more commendable.

I don't care what happens to my body when I'm dead, I don't need it anymore. I'm glad they're making it opt-out instead of opt-in.
But then I won't be able to feel special and quite as superior any more :(
 Post #17
 25th January 2009
Dennab
October 2006
5,630 Posts
In my opinion, there is no greater thing than saving people with something you don't even need anymore.

Times that by most of your organs, and it's a win-win.

You don't need them.
You can save multiple people lives with them.

I'm a huge supporter.

Strange, I think it's one of the smallest and most indifferent acts one can do, especially now that you don't have to actually do anything.


I mean it's not like it matters to you anyway, you're dead.
 Post #18
 25th January 2009 Last edited by Ryan2406; 25th January 2009 at 09:57PM..
Dennab
April 2008
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Not this I don't, I'm a blood donor too, as I see it it's not as though I need all my blood so someone else may as well have it. Same goes for my organs. I'll be dead, it's not like I'm going to care.

Plus it makes it easier to pretend like I have a moral high horse to sit on when arguing things. Probably looks good on a CV too.
Bullshit.


Edit:
I'm not going to die so my organs are staying with me.
 Post #19
 25th January 2009
Funcoot's Avatar
January 2006
5,476 Posts
I will be an organ donor when I get older, but not now.
 Post #20
 25th January 2009
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December 2006
5,878 Posts
Fuck you guys, I'm keeping all my organs, plus, I'm buying more off the blackmarket.

He who dies with the most vital organs wins.
 Post #21
 25th January 2009
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May 2005
363 Posts
I like this idea, I agree with most of the thread, I won't need them and they're useful, so they should be put to good use.
 Post #22
 25th January 2009 Last edited by Archive; 25th January 2009 at 10:00PM..
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June 2008
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I read the title as "Being a door" for some reason.

Also why would you want to guilt people into doing something? Tis a bit screwed up.

But yeah, me is an organ donor, doesn't make me feel special though.
 Post #23
 25th January 2009
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June 2006
7,078 Posts
I'm a blood donor and I ticked the thing for organ donation aswell..If I'm dead, what use are they to me? Might aswell give someone else a fighting chance..

Just hurry up and perfect artificial clone organs already.
 Post #24
 25th January 2009
Dennab
October 2006
5,630 Posts
Bullshit.


Edit:
I'm not going to die so my organs are staying with me.
I'm going to be laughing at your funeral.
 Post #25
 25th January 2009
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December 2006
5,878 Posts
Besides, we are going to be growing organs in labs pretty soon, and once we figure out how to fix our telomeres, we will just live forever. So, no worries guys.
 Post #26
 25th January 2009
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June 2006
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I'm donating blood in two days. Haven't done it in a while but it is quite nice, well at least the place i went too for the first few times i went was nice, they have tones of snacks/drinks there and they let you have as many as you want. So every time i go there i just snack down on some oreos and drink orange juice until they call me to donate. They really try and make you stay for like a 15 minutes after you donate and i just snack on the food more. Great place and the people love me and know me as a regular.
 Post #27
 25th January 2009
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August 2005
15,581 Posts
I'm an organ donor and I honestly think it should be up to the doctors/examiners whether or not you're a donor postmortem. Your organs are no use to you, no matter what your religion says, so stop hogging all the good shit and help others live good lives.
 Post #28
 25th January 2009
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October 2005
1,308 Posts
I'm an organ donor. Why the hell not. Can't donate blood though because mine's full of drugs.
 Post #29
 25th January 2009 Last edited by DEADBEEF; 25th January 2009 at 10:25PM..
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This was a stupid proposition, even before it was massively shot down in parliment.

The government does not own my body, even when I die. Contrary to what new labour may believe.
It's up to me and my family what happens with my organs when I'm gone, if I choose to donate them then I will.


There's no shortage of organs in the UK in any case. There's a shortage of dedicated surgery teams to transfer them to the patients who need them.
Something like 90% of donated organs never even make it out of the dead patient anyway. Increasing the amount of donors will do absolutely fuck all to help the people in need of replacement organs.

There was a great article in the times about this a sometime last year, I'll see if I can find an online copy....

[here]




P.S. I carry a donor card.
 Post #30
 25th January 2009
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March 2005
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I'm an organ donor. Why the hell not. Can't donate blood though because mine's full of drugs.
Then carrying a donor card is a completely futile gesture.
Any trace amounts of illegal substances (and a lot of legal ones) in your blood will render your organs useless for donation.
 Post #31
 25th January 2009
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December 2007
3,607 Posts
Just have a shitload of fetuses, and sell them for the stem cell thing, fix all damaged tissue, and you get money. And on top of that you can keep your organs.
 Post #32
 25th January 2009 Last edited by Barney1337; 25th January 2009 at 10:35PM..
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@ Deadbeef - In the US I'm quite sure it's just the opposite. I personally think that instead of an opt-out system they should do as they're doing now (in America, that is). Making you massively aware of organ donorship whenever possible. For example, we have tons of commercials for it, all buildings where you can sign to be a donor have it (town halls, Sec. of the Treasury buildings), and when you get/renew your license they ask you if you'd like to be an organ donor. It's a less intrusive system that's only slightly less efficient. We're honestly only a few steps short of making every adult aware of the steps (and the simplicity) in becoming an organ donor.
 Post #33
 25th January 2009
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August 2006
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Fuck you guys, I'm keeping all my organs, plus, I'm buying more off the blackmarket.

He who dies with the most vital organs wins.
You're on, I'm already up two! (Got some nice livers in.)
 Post #34
 25th January 2009
Dennab
April 2008
2,302 Posts
I'm going to be laughing at your funeral.
Not if I kill you first bitch.
 Post #35
 25th January 2009
Dennab
October 2007
1,210 Posts
This was a stupid proposition, even before it was massively shot down in parliment.

The government does not own my body, even when I die. Contrary to what new labour may believe.
It's up to me and my family what happens with my organs when I'm gone, if I choose to donate them then I will.


There's no shortage of organs in the UK in any case. There's a shortage of dedicated surgery teams to transfer them to the patients who need them.
Something like 90% of donated organs never even make it out of the dead patient anyway. Increasing the amount of donors will do absolutely fuck all to help the people in need of replacement organs.

There was a great article in the times about this a sometime last year, I'll see if I can find an online copy....

[here]




P.S. I carry a donor card.
Meh. Makes you feel better and looks good on paper.
 Post #36
 25th January 2009
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July 2005
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Just have a shitload of fetuses, and sell them for the stem cell thing, fix all damaged tissue, and you get money. And on top of that you can keep your organs.
listen to the master biologist everyone
 Post #37
 25th January 2009 Last edited by ryandaniels; 25th January 2009 at 10:55PM..
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December 2006
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You're on, I'm already up two! (Got some nice livers in.)
I'll let you in on my secret; I hop on my private jet and go down to china, buy those little chinese girls in bulk. 100, 200 of those, ship em in crates back to my mansion.

Works great, and is dual purpose, I mean, you can use em for anything while you are waiting for their organs to mature; sex, cleaning, lawn ornaments, whatever.
 Post #38
 25th January 2009
Rosek's Avatar
September 2006
3,266 Posts
I ticked the little thing on my driving licence, so I'm a donor.
 Post #39
 25th January 2009
marcus's Avatar
August 2005
786 Posts
Thanks to you, i decided to sign up as a blood donor. I'd never really given it a thought, i have an appointment for 2 weeks time!
 Post #40
 25th January 2009 Last edited by Lankist; 25th January 2009 at 11:13PM..
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July 2006
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Doesn't making it mandatory defy the entire point of donation?

There's nothing noble about organ donation when you didn't voluntarily take part.
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