I heard the news recently that, in the UK, where I live they are discussing removing the opt-in system for donors and bring in an opt-out system.
After seeing the film seven pounds, I couldn't help but think that donating is so important in healthcare and wondered what people thought about donating their own organs

In my opinion, I'm all for the opt-out system as it adds a guilt factor to not donating and I'm not that bothered about someone opening me up because I'll be dead.

source: presumed consent - http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/7729009.stm

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I dont care if you have aids there is no opt out option!

Guilt tripping people into doing something doesn't sound like a government thing.

Don't have a problem with it, and would be quite happy if it was a legal requirement.

Bullshit - People this is chris, He's got something against everything!

I'm an organ donor.

Doesn't the Opt-in system involve qualifying you to donate organs upon death?

Not this I don't, I'm a blood donor too, as I see it it's not as though I need all my blood so someone else may as well have it. Same goes for my organs. I'll be dead, it's not like I'm going to care.

Plus it makes it easier to pretend like I have a moral high horse to sit on when arguing things. Probably looks good on a CV too.

I'm an organ donor and regular blood donor. When I'm dead I'm not gonna use it for anything either way so fuck it. You also get candy and sodas when donating blood.

We get tea and biscuits over here.

oh god you're so english

I don't quite see what anyone's reasoning against organ donation is. Not like it matters when you're dead.

Some people would argue otherwise.

But then some people would argue the earth is flat.

In my opinion, there is no greater thing than saving people with something you don't even need anymore.

Times that by most of your organs, and it's a win-win.

You don't need them.
You can save multiple people lives with them.

I'm a huge supporter.

I don't care what happens to my body when I'm dead, I don't need it anymore. I'm glad they're making it opt-out instead of opt-in.

I'd have said saving them with something you do need is more commendable.

But then I won't be able to feel special and quite as superior any more :(

Strange, I think it's one of the smallest and most indifferent acts one can do, especially now that you don't have to actually do anything.


I mean it's not like it matters to you anyway, you're dead.

Bullshit.


Edit:
I'm not going to die so my organs are staying with me.

I will be an organ donor when I get older, but not now.

Fuck you guys, I'm keeping all my organs, plus, I'm buying more off the blackmarket.

He who dies with the most vital organs wins.

I like this idea, I agree with most of the thread, I won't need them and they're useful, so they should be put to good use.

I read the title as "Being a door" for some reason.

Also why would you want to guilt people into doing something? Tis a bit screwed up.

But yeah, me is an organ donor, doesn't make me feel special though.

I'm a blood donor and I ticked the thing for organ donation aswell..If I'm dead, what use are they to me? Might aswell give someone else a fighting chance..

Just hurry up and perfect artificial clone organs already.

I'm going to be laughing at your funeral.

Besides, we are going to be growing organs in labs pretty soon, and once we figure out how to fix our telomeres, we will just live forever. So, no worries guys.

I'm donating blood in two days. Haven't done it in a while but it is quite nice, well at least the place i went too for the first few times i went was nice, they have tones of snacks/drinks there and they let you have as many as you want. So every time i go there i just snack down on some oreos and drink orange juice until they call me to donate. They really try and make you stay for like a 15 minutes after you donate and i just snack on the food more. Great place and the people love me and know me as a regular.

I'm an organ donor and I honestly think it should be up to the doctors/examiners whether or not you're a donor postmortem. Your organs are no use to you, no matter what your religion says, so stop hogging all the good shit and help others live good lives.

I'm an organ donor. Why the hell not. Can't donate blood though because mine's full of drugs.

This was a stupid proposition, even before it was massively shot down in parliment.

The government does not own my body, even when I die. Contrary to what new labour may believe.
It's up to me and my family what happens with my organs when I'm gone, if I choose to donate them then I will.


There's no shortage of organs in the UK in any case. There's a shortage of dedicated surgery teams to transfer them to the patients who need them.
Something like 90% of donated organs never even make it out of the dead patient anyway. Increasing the amount of donors will do absolutely fuck all to help the people in need of replacement organs.

There was a great article in the times about this a sometime last year, I'll see if I can find an online copy....

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P.S. I carry a donor card.

Then carrying a donor card is a completely futile gesture.
Any trace amounts of illegal substances (and a lot of legal ones) in your blood will render your organs useless for donation.

Just have a shitload of fetuses, and sell them for the stem cell thing, fix all damaged tissue, and you get money. And on top of that you can keep your organs.

@ Deadbeef - In the US I'm quite sure it's just the opposite. I personally think that instead of an opt-out system they should do as they're doing now (in America, that is). Making you massively aware of organ donorship whenever possible. For example, we have tons of commercials for it, all buildings where you can sign to be a donor have it (town halls, Sec. of the Treasury buildings), and when you get/renew your license they ask you if you'd like to be an organ donor. It's a less intrusive system that's only slightly less efficient. We're honestly only a few steps short of making every adult aware of the steps (and the simplicity) in becoming an organ donor.

You're on, I'm already up two! (Got some nice livers in.)

Not if I kill you first bitch.

Meh. Makes you feel better and looks good on paper.

listen to the master biologist everyone

I'll let you in on my secret; I hop on my private jet and go down to china, buy those little chinese girls in bulk. 100, 200 of those, ship em in crates back to my mansion.

Works great, and is dual purpose, I mean, you can use em for anything while you are waiting for their organs to mature; sex, cleaning, lawn ornaments, whatever.

I ticked the little thing on my driving licence, so I'm a donor.

Thanks to you, i decided to sign up as a blood donor. I'd never really given it a thought, i have an appointment for 2 weeks time!

Doesn't making it mandatory defy the entire point of donation?

There's nothing noble about organ donation when you didn't voluntarily take part.

Great, more government control. The government should stay out of people's business. If you want to donate, you should be allowed to. If you don't, you should not be forced to.

I got nothing for my donations but a law suit.

That's because you aren't meant to forcibly donate sperm.

Also, where do I sign up for a donor card, and where do I go to give blood? (UK)

I'm not an organ donor because I wrecked the stickers that I was supposed to put on my health card.

Ha.

When I got my motorcycle license I became a donor.

If you have a problem with doing it, you're a fucking asshole.

I'd rather see someone die than have them live, why would I contribute to someone getting the chance to live?

Sure, take my organs I'm not going to need them anyway, when I die of course.

I'm not a donor, and I'm happy that way. I plan on being buried with every single part of me that I was born with. Besides, I have no remorse that someone died because they didn't recieve my organs if I died. People die everyday, what's one more?

Go to www.blood.co.uk to sign up as a registered blood donor. You can then book an appointment to go to your nearest place to give blood. There should be one close by, my town only has about 70,000 people and there are 10 within 5 miles on me.

I didn't recieve my donor form yet, but i am leaning towards being an asshole.

I don't want to save people you know. But if my organ would help a person live better then that would be nice.
I am not going to donate my liver to some drunk idiot. So i'd choose not to donate that.
Same with lungs and heart as well. Since you can't choose i won't donate those. (mostly old people need these)

I'd gladly donate skin, bone tissue, veins and heart valves though. (and remaining usuable crap).

But those drunk idiots and old people are going to be on the same donor list as the children with 1/100000 chance diseases. By not donating those organs you're only limiting the supply, thereby making it even more unlikely that kid will get the organ he needs.

Yep, those people seriously destroyed the chances of say 3 kids with a rare decease.
You can't choose where your organs go. And most people choose not fill in the form AT ALL. Just because they were too lazy.

A while ago they had a massive stund to promote donating organs. It was called the donor show. They aired one episode and let everyone know it was not real. Donors rose significantly just that month.

So you're so caught up on your moral high horse, so caught up in playing the moral judge that you're going deny children a possible life?

I'm going to stick myself on the organ donor list. The majority of organs donated are from those who have suffered brain hemorrhages and are on oxygen. If you were to be in a car accident, the organs would be useless as they would have been starved of oxygen and would start to die. So even if you are on the donor list, the likelihood of your organs actually being used is still slim. That's why they need so many people to sign up.

I like to use facts to support my doing and choices.

Maybe i will change my opinion on human life, but i don't believe in saving everyone.

Perhaps the reason is that you have poor vision or dyslexia.

Your plan is fucked if you ever need to have your appendix removed.

For every 1 person that's drunk themselves to death, there's 100 more who have a life threatening disease they cannot help having.

Your intentions don't match each other. You really sound more like someone whos developing a deficiency syndrome rather than a person who simply believes not all people should be saved.

Could someone explain this Opt thingy?

When I get my license, im going to be an organ donor.

deficiency syndrome in what?

Vital organs.

I'd rather let the system change into something that forces people to be donors after death while still letting them donor kidneys and stuff in life

that is if i understand this correct

If people want the government to stay out of their business they should learn to conduct their business better, otherwise people who can will do it for them.

I'm a donor because it's clearly the right thing to do. I think people whom disagree with organ donation due to religious reasons are selfish and inconsiderate; though if they're not imposing it upon me to NOT donate I won't force my views upon them.

oh no my organs are sacred i was born with them and will be buried with them i don't want some dirty foreigner who came here for our free health care to be running around with my lung or heart

As in you feel yourself to be deficient and you're taking it out by trying to play god in whatever way possible. I wouldn't have come to this conclusion if your intentions matched each other, but you're being irrational, so it's probable that your making decisions through an illogical process. This process seems to be partially guided by feelings of self-deficiency.

This is only funny because your name is Captain Communism.

Forced? You don't understand the concept of opting out do you.

I became an organ donator as soon as i could. Better than having some poor person die because you were rather have your body incinerated in an instant than help other people and leave them to die.

Considering that the national average life expectancy is going up who would want a 100 year old or let alone a 80 year old heart or kidney? I mean it's not like the organs would be even be doing that much work after that period of time you'd think it'd need some repair, I'd do it if I don't live that long though.

People die in car accidents very often.

Yep, became a donor 7 years ago.

I still like the exclusivity of being able to have consent yet seeing how it's hard to be deciding whether or not I want to give them my organs to save some person I'll never meet I guess I'll never opt out.

I personally have no problem with knowing that if I get hit by a car and die, my heart could save someone elses life.

1 death instead of 2.

Well there is always that cars could become obsolete and hurray no more car accidents but that doesn't look likely since we've had roads for bloody years and years.

You sound like house..

But really, it's just that there's some things i don't support. Like drinking alcohol and doing drugs. "Omg he probably never tried it lol". I don't care about the comments. If they can't respect me then don't expect me to be nice in return. Go die and think about why you are dying.

If the world war like ideal you know, i would not care. Just donate everything. Not to science though. Slicing a body is a waste of organs if you'd ask me. Better save a couple nice people.

I don't want to play god, but i am given the choice. Too fucking bad for the other people that could have been saved though..Go get your organs in china from executed prisoners.

So instead of opening the possibility that your organs save another life, you'd rather deny everyone that right simply because you have some ill notion that your organs will only go to save some drunk?

You're really arrogant.

I'd rather not let them have him because I don't want my fucking dead body to be mutilated like some kids playing with a dead squirell.
We have our rights in death and if you start taking them away I might as well patch a hammer and sickle on my chest and run around naked.