scrb_mech_mk51_wip5 - Page 2

Mister Royzo

Gold Member

June 2007
3,713 Posts

Is there and Advanced Duplication of this? I'd like to see this kind of thing with my own eyes first.

BaWa

January 2009
286 Posts

Bigwig posted:

applyforce more like applygay

No that's when you use it.
Seriously this is awesome and if you think it's so easy, YOU DO IT GO ON GO AND DO IT NOW FAILURES!
I've built mechs for over 2 years. And this is probably, one of THE best walking style's I have ever seen. No matter how he did it, he still did it, you guys are too blind to see that.

Joazzz

Gold Member

June 2008
5,622 Posts

Just f*cking epic!

How does this "Applyforce" work?

Satyria

February 2007
1,192 Posts

I'm impressed.

RSahlgren

Gold Member

December 2007
2,550 Posts

Sestze posted:

Pro posting. Posting pros. Posting bros.

you mad 'cause he stylin' on you.

GBS RAUS. all of them. much like your posting. unban gigs. semper games.

Also using applyForce to make a plate ram people to death != using applyForce to make something walk TRY AGAIN.

Code:

@name Sax's Apply Force Turret
@inputs Vehicle:entity Activate
@outputs B2 P2 CameraPos:vector Camera:vector X Y Z
@persist P B R X2 Y A:vector A2:vector
interval(10)

entity():setMass(1000) 

#Vector Calcs   
R = entity():angles():roll()*2
RR = entity():angVel():roll()*2
B2 = entity():bearing(Vehicle:driver():aimPos())
B= (320*$B2 + 64*B2)*Activate
P2 = entity():elevation(Vehicle:driver():aimPos())
P = (320*$P2 + 64*P2)*Activate
PP = entity():angVel():pitch()
X2=200
Y=50
applyAngForce(ang(-P * X2,-B *X2 ,-R * X2- RR * Y))

A = entity():pos()
A2 = owner():aimPos()
CameraPos = A+vec(0,0,10)
Camera = A2-A

Archer2338

July 2006
1,670 Posts

But can you make a mech WALK?

Sestze

March 2005
582 Posts

RSahlgren posted:

Code:

@name Sax's Apply Force Turret
@inputs Vehicle:entity Activate
@outputs B2 P2 CameraPos:vector Camera:vector X Y Z
@persist P B R X2 Y A:vector A2:vector
interval(10)

entity():setMass(1000) 

#Vector Calcs   
R = entity():angles():roll()*2
RR = entity():angVel():roll()*2
B2 = entity():bearing(Vehicle:driver():aimPos())
B= (320*$B2 + 64*B2)*Activate
P2 = entity():elevation(Vehicle:driver():aimPos())
P = (320*$P2 + 64*P2)*Activate
PP = entity():angVel():pitch()
X2=200
Y=50
applyAngForce(ang(-P * X2,-B *X2 ,-R * X2- RR * Y))

A = entity():pos()
A2 = owner():aimPos()
CameraPos = A+vec(0,0,10)
Camera = A2-A

Cute, you found the bearing() and elevation() commands. I use straight vector positions and I have an occlusion sphere to allow for a mech canopy and pinpoint aiming while being covered by armor.

What you're showing me there is what equates to a e1 delta turret. I hope you're proud.

edit: also, applyAngForce? Who uses that? applyOffsetForce allows for more finesse. Also I'm moving the entities not the chip so it can remain stationary and aaaaaaaaaaa why are you doing it so wrong jeet christ

Gunnanmon

February 2008
490 Posts

Sestze posted:

Just for you

View YouTUBE video

http://youtube.com/watch?v=iET6tuGCunU

Best mech movement I've ever seen. Outstanding! Thanks for the extra video.

Sestze posted:

...I honestly have no idea where you people get the idea that this system was "easy" to make...

Don't mind them Sestze, they seem to think low post count equals inexperience. I can see the work that's been put into it, and I can relate; it really is awesome.

RSahlgren

Gold Member

December 2007
2,550 Posts

Sestze posted:

Cute, you found the bearing() and elevation() commands. I use straight vector positions and I have an occlusion sphere to allow for a mech canopy and pinpoint aiming while being covered by armor.

What you're showing me there is what equates to a e1 delta turret. I hope you're proud.

edit: also, applyAngForce? Who uses that? applyOffsetForce allows for more finesse. Also I'm moving the entities not the chip so it can remain stationary and aaaaaaaaaaa why are you doing it so wrong jeet christ

If I would make such walking I would use angles, and apply angle force,.

Sestze

March 2005
582 Posts

RSahlgren posted:

If I would make such walking I would use angles, and apply angle force,.

I can show you the older mechs I made that tried to do that with Exp1 if you like, that was practically the first thing I tried to do.

Didn't end well.

eurocracy

May 2007
955 Posts

Gunnanmon posted:

So, I see a mech in the video, and then the inside of the mech... shouldn't I be seeing legs?

Why haven't you built a mech using applyforce if its so easy then?

Okayt, I'll do one later

robotwo

August 2007
609 Posts

that mech is awesomely agile and fast 8D , I'm mighty impressed , hats off to you good sir

IAmAnooB

August 2006
1,835 Posts

stupid e2 applyforce
noone is innovative anymore
they just apply force and take
the easy way out.

Abstrakt

July 2008
1,803 Posts

lol foxton you just cant use it :D

RSahlgren

Gold Member

December 2007
2,550 Posts

Foxton, this is more advance then you think. And Aura, this isn't easy shit, this is innovate use of applyforce.

Abstrakt

July 2008
1,803 Posts

:((

i know - he gave me a basic version of the walk script without mouse turning

x Zero x

March 2008
418 Posts

Wire itself has kinda ruined the old way of doing things in Gmod but it has ushered in the new way of doing things. Personally the majority of wire is overcomplicated and turning the game into something only people with a major in being a tech head can play but still if you can manage to grasp the basics you can do things the same if not better than using the old way. Turret using Axis and thrusters = jerky, unreliable, unstable. Turret using wire hydraulics = smooth, efficient, solid.

Abstrakt

July 2008
1,803 Posts

x Zero x posted:

Wire itself has kinda ruined the old way of doing things in Gmod but it has ushered in the new way of doing things. Personally the majority of wire is overcomplicated and turning the game into something only people with a major in being a tech head can play but still if you can manage to grasp the basics you can do things the same if not better than using the old way. Turret using Axis and thrusters = jerky, unreliable, unstable. Turret using wire hydraulics = smooth, efficient, solid.

1: so what?

2: axis + thrustr can rape your hydraulics if you can use it right. lrn2wire

Gunnanmon

February 2008
490 Posts

x Zero x posted:

Wire itself has kinda ruined the old way of doing things in Gmod but it has ushered in the new way of doing things. Personally the majority of wire is overcomplicated and turning the game into something only people with a major in being a tech head can play but still if you can manage to grasp the basics you can do things the same if not better than using the old way. Turret using Axis and thrusters = jerky, unreliable, unstable. Turret using wire hydraulics = smooth, efficient, solid.

When I first started building, I built stuff out of vanilla Gmod stools, then I found some more stools, then wire and used chips, then E1, then E2 -- it's a natural progression to do things better, it's human nature, and to know that its possible to do better than what you've got is what keeps this game going.

x Zero x

March 2008
418 Posts

People are getting me wrong. I can wire, I'm pro wire. i was just stating for some people who were complaining about applyforce that Wire is the new way and that the old way is, while still good, not exactly up to par with wire.

Abstrakt

July 2008
1,803 Posts

people over exaggerate applyforce.

Joazzz

Gold Member

June 2008
5,622 Posts

How does this applyforce-thingy work? Is it somehow related to Forcers?

Satyria

February 2007
1,192 Posts

Abstrakt posted:

people over exaggerate applyforce.

That. And people also underestimate it.

Abstrakt

July 2008
1,803 Posts

Satyria posted:

That. And people also underestimate it.

arent you at school right now

DireAvenger

Gold Member

February 2007
5,473 Posts

SilverHammer posted:

Why does everyone in this thread have an account from 2005 but like 40 posts

It must be that new hack they told me not to tell yo-

isdevilis

March 2009
552 Posts

your just a mean houce that cheated with apply gay

Abstrakt

July 2008
1,803 Posts

isdevilis posted:

your just a mean houce that cheated with apply gay

apply gay is cooler than you

isdevilis

March 2009
552 Posts

stop hurting me houce

Kickasskyle

February 2005
1,672 Posts

Mr. Sharp posted:

pff applyforce come back and talk to me when you've spent hours agonizingly placing each and every thruster on a beautiful hand crafted mech and then we'll talk little luddite. you just dont appreciate the skill that goes into true fine mech crafting.

I've done the Aforementioned and, This is alot better.
I honestly don't want to spend hours messing with elastics and thrusters,
I want to built ma mech chassis.

Sure it is abit iffy at first, but once you tweak it right, it's all good.

Honestly, from the first days of mech building, Lots of people came along and said "Oh meh gawd use Hydwalics, Thrusters smell",
Guess it's the same these days too, Just advanced a little :D

Gibbo

August 2006
1,215 Posts

Kickasskyle posted:

I've done the Aforementioned and, This is alot better.
I honestly don't want to spend hours messing with elastics and thrusters,
I want to built ma mech chassis.

Sure it is abit iffy at first, but once you tweak it right, it's all good.

Honestly, from the first days of mech building, Lots of people came along and said "Oh meh gawd use Hydwalics, Thrusters smell",
Guess it's the same these days too, Just advanced a little :D

Tru.Dat

Dohner

February 2008
1,102 Posts

It looks like its walking backwards and its ugly

Dohner

February 2008
1,102 Posts

Sestze posted:

Cute, you found the bearing() and elevation() commands. I use straight vector positions and I have an occlusion sphere to allow for a mech canopy and pinpoint aiming while being covered by armor.

What you're showing me there is what equates to a e1 delta turret. I hope you're proud.

edit: also, applyAngForce? Who uses that? applyOffsetForce allows for more finesse. Also I'm moving the entities not the chip so it can remain stationary and aaaaaaaaaaa why are you doing it so wrong jeet christ

Also, you don't have to make fun of people for not knowing your super leet coding skills for your mech. You seem to me like a Hitler type person.