1. Post #1
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    February 2007
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    The email


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    To whom this may concern,

    As you most likely have seen, the community has split into two pieces that hate eachother with a passion. Why is this, you might ask? The latest blog post along with the halo item seem to be the culprit. People without the halo are banning people with the halo from their servers (they're in charge of an awful lot of them) and the halo-less are getting discriminated on the halo-havers' servers. It has even infected a lot of gaming forums. (Including the Steam Forums)

    I'd like to propose some things to mend this gap between the community and give a more fitting punishment to the idlers:

    1. An item, much alike the halo, for the idlers. Hear me out on this one.

    The Cheater's Curse
    Level 83 Aura of Corruption
    -15 or 25 health decrease on wearer
    -Forced to wear on every class you don't have a hat for
    -Vanishes after a specific date (when the punishment ends) or no more negative effects after this date
    -Not deleteable

    Proposed looks (made a model for this):


    http://imgkk.com/i/luPSl3.png

    2. Maybe a blogpost concerning the community's behaviour?

    3. Please don't give the Halo any positive effects, it'll be like giving out free hacks.

    I didn't make this mail because I am now poor and Irish (I had many hats but I did not bringe them) and because that is problematic when testing new hat replacements. Instead of that I made it because a lot of people seem to agree with me that this is a good idea and this'd be a better punishment than removing "idled" hats and giving out halos to the other part of the community.

    Signed,

    Ricky "Daimao" van den Waardenburg


    Proposed looks:


    I thought this'd be an optimal solution since
    A) It'll (hopefully) stop the QQing about the Halo hat.
    B) It's still a punishment, not a freebie.

    So what do you think of this solution?
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  2. Post #2
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    Lol love the idea
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  3. Post #3
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    November 2007
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    wop

    (I don't actually agree, really, because it really just does the same as the halo.)
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  4. Post #4
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    Rating the OP dumb proves you're a Halo-haver, I presume?
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  5. Post #5
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    I think the health decreasement wouldn't be fair and there would be even more hate.
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  6. Post #6
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    Agree or Disagree would be more fitting.
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    September 2008
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    Looks like a wonderful idea! Oh, maybe so it wouldn't seem like a free hat it wouldn't show up in their inventory?
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    stop harassing valve employees on their jobs
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  9. Post #9
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    stop harassing valve employees on their jobs
    Hey they mail me. Can't I mail them back once in a while?
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    Agree
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  11. Post #11
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    October 2008
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    Looks interesting but I wouldn't like the scout getting more health removed. He'll practically be a thin plank of wood that I can break with my forehead except he shouts bonk where the wood tells me to kill my family.
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    (Also for the people who can't read, it's a health subtraction not an addition)

  13. Post #13
    SeneorGoat's Avatar
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    YOU FORGOT TO SAY that the health is decreased by 15 to 25




    Awwwwwwwww ninjas
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  14. Post #14
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    March 2009
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    I think this is all over blown, but any change is good change because the current setup is fucking bullshit.

    My friend got a halo and I didnt, most servers either ban for having or not having so now we cant even enjoy the game we paid for.

  15. Post #15
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    Well, I still love the Halo players. :)
    Tf2 is just for fun anyway.

    Edited:

    Oh shit I was ninja'd by roughly 5 people.

  16. Post #16
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    YOU FORGOT TO SAY that the health is decreased by 15 to 25
    10 for low health classes.
    20 for mid health classes.
    25 for the Heavy?
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  17. Post #17
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    Valve would probably liken this to God taking suggestions from Satan.

    Not that I don't think it's a great idea.
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  18. Post #18
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    You're just mad cause you didn't get a halo.

    /thread
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  19. Post #19
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    You're just mad cause you didn't get a halo right now.

    /thread
    Fixed it for you.
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  20. Post #20
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    Scout with The Sandman + The Cheater's Curse = Oh fun.

    To explain it better:
    125 - 30% - 25 = Oh fun.
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  21. Post #21
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    September 2006
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    Why would valve reward people that have abused their system?
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  22. Post #22
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    Fuck the disadvantage!
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  23. Post #23
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    Why would valve reward people that have abused their system?
    It's not a reward, it's a punishment. You're forced to wear it and it decreases your health. Plus it vanishes when Valve says the punishment is over.
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    Why would valve reward people that have abused their system?
    Negative effects isn't to much of a reward. I assume it's just because all of the assholes who ban and refuse to heal each other due to their halo status.

  25. Post #25
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    October 2008
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    Valve would probably liken this to God taking suggestions from Satan.

    Not that I don't think it's a great idea.
    But he does. They are best friends.



    There they are playing a healthy game of chess.
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    Why would valve reward people that have abused their system?
    did you read about the disadvantage?

  27. Post #27
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    Why would valve reward people that have abused their system?
    Since when does removing part of the class health counts as a reward?

  28. Post #28
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    Awesome, man.

       (all right, I know your full name, time to spy on you)    :ninja:
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  29. Post #29
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    should have a devil tail sticking out their ass
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  30. Post #30
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    Also, if horns are to be implemented and to be removed in a later date, then why not with the Halo's too?
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  31. Post #31
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    Why would valve reward people that have abused their system?
    So, having a forced hat for a while that screws up your health among other things is considered a reward by you? Then I'll have your halo if you don't mind, since apparently it wasn't enough of a reward

  32. Post #32
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    Also, if horns are to be implemented and to be removed in a later date, then why not with the Halo's too?
    Good fucking idea

    I'd happily play alongside haloers if THIS were the punishment.
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  33. Post #33
    Just make it so that you HAVE to wear it. But with no negative effects. That's just idiotic.
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  34. Post #34
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    It's not a reward, it's a punishment. You're forced to wear it and it decreases your health. Plus it vanishes when Valve says the punishment is over.
    They're still getting something for free regardless of negative effects.
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  35. Post #35
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    February 2007
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    But he does. They are best friends.



    There they are playing a healthy game of chess.
    That's one sexy devil :q:
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    That's one sexy devil :q:
    :eek:
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  37. Post #37
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    Rather than the health drop why not make them more vunrable to fire and/or take random crits away from them.
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  38. Post #38
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    October 2007
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    I cheated and I like this idea.
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  39. Post #39
    SeneorGoat's Avatar
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    They're still getting something for free regardless of negative effects.
    but it gets taken away, and you cant take it off
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  40. Post #40
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    Also, if horns are to be implemented and to be removed in a later date, then why not with the Halo's too?
    This.
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