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    October 2009
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    A court case where the two defendants met on a "furry" website has put the spotlight in this little-known world. So what is a furry?
    Lenya looks adorable, with lots of glossy white fur, black paws, a shiny pink nose and cute little pointed ears.
    But Lenya is also a 48-year-old computer network administrator called Marshall Woods, who likes motor racing, visiting museums and reading crime novels in his spare time.

    Mr Woods is what is known as a furry and Lenya is a "fursona" he has created, which he described as a "sort of space weasel". As part of getting into character he wears a handmade, full-size fursuit.
    Furry Fandom, furrydom, furdom - it's called many things - has momentarily found itself in the spotlight in the UK, due to a court case where the two defendants met on a furry website.
    It is a largely unknown scene and participants have been happy to keep it that way, feeling they are often misunderstood. So what is a furry?
    No standard definition exists but generally furries are people who have a fascination with anthropomorphic animals. These are animals that are given human traits, like walking and talking. They can be anything from cartoons characters like Bugs Bunny to computer game personalities like Pokemon.
    The scene has its own art, animation, comic books and literature, but activities are largely conducted online - where furries adopt "fursonas" for role playing.
    But for some it is about meeting other furries in person. Groups around the world meet regularly and there are conventions in the US, UK, Germany, Mexico, France, Russia and Brazil.



    Petting and scratching

    urries say the scene is about creativity, freedom and community; being who you want to be among like-minded people.
    "You get to choose what and who you are. Imagination is OK, no matter what your age," says Mark Merlino, a founding member of the furry culture in the US and known as Sylys Sable on the scene.

    But, inevitably perhaps, there's a sexual element too. In a recent court case in the UK, two men who met on a furry website, and shared sexual role-playing fantasies, were convicted of plotting to kill one of the pair's adoptive parents. Christopher Monks, from Lancashire, and Shaun Skarnes, from Cheshire, were found guilty of meticulously preparing the killings via the internet. They are currently awaiting sentence.
    Furries will not thank the pair for casting their hobby in a negative light, and tend to argue the sexual side is hugely overplayed.
    "I think the problem is that sex sells," says Ian Wolf (his furry pseudonym), who is editor of the British furry news website, FurteanTimes.com. "It is not surprising that less scrupulous journalists like to print stories about people having sex dressed as foxes."
    Some furries assume animal traits - known as zoomorphism - and indentify strongly with certain species. This can range from adopting an online persona to wearing a tail or full-sized fur suits like Mr Woods.




    But, inevitably perhaps, there's a sexual element too. In a recent court case in the UK, two men who met on a furry website, and shared sexual role-playing fantasies, were convicted of plotting to kill one of the pair's adoptive parents. Christopher Monks, from Lancashire, and Shaun Skarnes, from Cheshire, were found guilty of meticulously preparing the killings via the internet. They are currently awaiting sentence.
    Furries will not thank the pair for casting their hobby in a negative light, and tend to argue the sexual side is hugely overplayed.
    "I think the problem is that sex sells," says Ian Wolf (his furry pseudonym), who is editor of the British furry news website, FurteanTimes.com. "It is not surprising that less scrupulous journalists like to print stories about people having sex dressed as foxes."
    Some furries assume animal traits - known as zoomorphism - and indentify strongly with certain species. This can range from adopting an online persona to wearing a tail or full-sized fur suits like Mr Woods.

    Exhilarating

    "Fursuiters", as they are called, bemoan society's inhibitions and look admiring at the animal kingdom where creatures have more freedom to be expressive. Touching, petting, hugging and "skritching" (lightly scratching and grooming) is common at social gatherings. And most do not remove their costumes in public areas, to prevent breaking the illusion.
    "There's a magic moment when you put a costume on and see yourself in the mirror," says Mr Woods. "It's simultaneously disorienting and exhilarating. You actually do feel that you've changed for just a moment."

    Anthrozoologist, Kathy Gerbasi, who studies human-animal interactions and furries, has witnessed furry interaction first-hand.
    "People say that being in a fur suit allows you to do things you might not otherwise do, like dance in public, clown around, give people a hug," she says.
    She argues furries are just taking something that most of us do a few steps further.
    "I think most humans grow up interested in animals. We grow up with teddy bears, pets, Mickey Mouse, etc. Animals surround us in advertisements, nature, stories and fables.
    "Humans tend to anthropomorphise as a way of understanding and interpreting the world around us. Furries just take this interest a bit further than most people."
    But a small minority take it further still - believing they are animals trapped in human bodies, or consider themselves to be part animal. A study by Ms Gerbasi at one furry convention found about a quarter of the participants did not consider themselves 100% human.
    She is currently researching this in relation to gender identity disorder, when people feel they are the wrong sex and trapped in the wrong body. She says currently unpublished data supports the hypothesis that there are similarities. She is calling it species identity disorder.



    'Mystified'

    Feeling you are part-animal is unusual, she admits, although "for most, the furry fandom is a hobby and like Star Trek fans or such".
    Of course, there's nothing new about people donning animal costumes for a spot of fun. But Furryism, as a pursuit in its own right, grew out of science fiction and comic book conventions in the 1980s, says furry historian Fred Patten.

    Small room parties were held at such events in the UK and US for fans of animated cartoons with animal characters.
    But it really came of age with the internet in the 1990s and today is an internet community first and foremost, says Mr Merlino.
    Conventions are held around the world and some have attracted have up to 3,000 furries. In the UK the scene is very active, says Mr Wolf. There are locals groups and two annual conventions, in London and Manchester, with another planned for Inverness.
    For a long time it was a male-dominated scene, but many more women are now involved.
    "There are still way more male furries than female ones, but the number of girls is growing slowly," says furry artist TaniDaReal (her furry pseudonym), a 29-year-old media designer from Germany.


    Fursona - furry persona
    Plushie - person who loves cuddly toys
    Fleshie - a non furry
    Fursuiters - People who dress in animal costumes
    Yiff - furry porn
    Skritching - scratching and grooming

    "On art galleries, I'd say the gender ratio is pretty balanced. A lot of the furry artists are female."
    Very little research has been done on the furry world. This is probably because many behavioural scientists are not really aware of their existence, says Ms Gerbasi.

    "When I presented an interactive session at an identity conference in 2007 people were mystified," she says. "If you tell people about furries they often think you are kidding or making it up. Also, due to bad publicity, furries have not been cooperative about being studied."
    Furries argue it is the persistent misconceptions about them that keeps the scene private.
    "The big misconception is that most furries are mainly obsessed with sex," says Mr Wolf. "While there is pornography in the fandom - 'yiff' as it is known - it is only a small part."
    So what do they say when someone thinks being a furry is weird?
    "I would say that we are just free thinkers who let our minds expand to create these weird and wonderful characters," says Mr Wolf.

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/magazine/8355287.stm


    and a selection of comments from the lovely readers of the BBC news.

    As a fursuiter myself, I find the condescending tone of this piece a little distasteful. At the end of the day, what is wrong with like-minded individuals dressing up and having fun?
    Lennard Owen, Leeds, West Yorkshire
    There are a lot more people creating furry art than wearing fursuits in the fandom. The art ranges from really beautiful, detailed portraits of furry characters to humorous cartoons done in all sorts of offbeat personal styles. But 99% of these articles focus almost exclusively on the fursuiters, leading most people to think EVERY furry wears a suit.
    Joe Strike, New York NY US
    I consider myself "fursona" to be a mixture of a Lion and a Bunny, these are traits of my personality and emotional states that I identify with. I consider the fandom no more different than any other fandom. I was introduced to the wider fandom though Second Life, and have progressively developed my "fursona", I have found true warm accepting friendship within the furrie community unbound by normal constraints.
    Steam Bunjie, Westhoughton
    Personally I love being a fur as it allows me to express my personality in a way that is not possible in mainstream society. As such it is incredibly liberating and has taught me a lot about myself and others, as well as rekindling my interest in art. I would also like to add that I have also learnt from my character and incorporated some of his positive aspects into my own personality and thus make me a richer person overall. Although he may not be real he lives in me and I believe I'm a better person for it.
    Sierus the Stalion, Brighton
    Nothing wrong with this sort of behaviour - as long as they stay off the furniture and don't scratch the wallpaper.
    Vital Spark
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  2. Post #2
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    furries take their fetish a little too far sometimes
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    Nothing wrong with this sort of behaviour - as long as they stay off the furniture and don't scratch the wallpaper.
    Vital Spark
    I hope they're house broken too :ohdear:. Don't want to get out the steam cleaner.
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    proud fleshie
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    Fucking furfags.
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  6. Post #6
    Dennab
    February 2006
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    OH MY GOD LOOK AT THOSE EYES!!! AGGGHHH! GOD DAMMIT LOOK AT THOSE EYES FUCK. IT WANTS TO FUCKING FURRY ME!
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    Burn them, burn them all.
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    that looks like a bangin party

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    OH MY GOD LOOK AT THOSE EYES!!! AGGGHHH! GOD DAMMIT LOOK AT THOSE EYES FUCK. IT WANTS TO FUCKING FURRY ME!
    What the hell is that supposed to be?
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    What the hell is that supposed to be?
    dunno but it looks like a retarded bug
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    Gotta love the BBC.

    Atleast they tell it how it is.
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    OH MY GOD LOOK AT THOSE EYES!!! AGGGHHH! GOD DAMMIT LOOK AT THOSE EYES FUCK. IT WANTS TO FUCKING FURRY ME!


    Is this also a furry?
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    furries should be hung imo
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    Is this also a furry?


    Now it is.
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    die in a fire furries, please
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    Good photoshop man
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  17. Post #17
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    The Problem:

    Furries getting trolled becaus eof their sexual preferences.

    The Solution:

    Keep your preferences to yourself.
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    The Problem:

    Furries getting trolled becaus eof their sexual preferences.

    The Solution:

    suicide
    fix
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    Dennab
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    Furries are sort of weird, but hey, they aren't hurting anyone(usually).
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    Facepunch hate bandwagon rolling in.

    Seriously let them be weird and have there fun, they aren't doing anything to you personaly are they.
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    The Problem:

    Furries getting trolled becaus eof their sexual preferences.

    The Solution:

    Keep your preferences to yourself.
    Why is it wrong to troll a gay person over their sexual preference but not a furry? As long as they don't hump actual animals.
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    Why is it wrong to troll a gay person over their sexual preference but not a furry? As long as they don't hump actual animals.
    Well I never said it was right to troll gay people.
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    urries say the scene is about creativity, freedom and community; being who you want to be among like-minded people.
    goddamn urries
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    Well I never said it was right to troll gay people.
    That wasn't the point he was makeing, read it again.
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    Well I never said it was right to troll gay people.
    If it's not right to troll gays then it isn't right to troll furries.
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    THEN IT'S NOT RIGHT TO TROLL ANYBODY
    ay~
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    Solution: Kill trolls (?)
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    THEN IT'S NOT RIGHT TO TROLL ANYBODY
    ay~
    Exactly. I don't know why everyone gets all weird whenever someone has a different fetish/sexual preference or do something different. Let people do their own thing as long as they aren't actually hurting no one else.
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    Damn furries are gonna take over the world...
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    Exactly. I don't know why everyone gets all weird whenever someone has a different fetish/sexual preference or do something different. Let people do their own thing as long as they aren't actually hurting no one else.
    That would be the right scenario.

    But with all the shit and retards on the internet, not gonna happen.
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    Edited:

    the furries go in the middle of the fire
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    fleshie here
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    Edited:

    the furries go in the middle of the fire
    I'm with you, man

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    proud fleshie
    Hey, me too

    IT'S SO AMAZING TO MEET A LIKEMINDED FLESHIE ON THE INTERNET WE SHOULD START A FANDOM
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    Hey, me too

    IT'S SO AMAZING TO MEET A LIKEMINDED FLESHIE ON THE INTERNET WE SHOULD START A FANDOM
    im in the fleshie fandom
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    how do i join fleshie fandom
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    How do I systems engineer?
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    how do i join fleshie fandom
    draw fleshie art, wear flesh suit and have no tail
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    "The big misconception is that most furries are mainly obsessed with sex," says Mr Wolf. "While there is pornography in the fandom - 'yiff' as it is known - it is only a small part."
    Nah.
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