Oh and by the way, they were brits.
anyone rationalizing this could get banned/fucked
no big deal tho this'll be forgotten in a week or so after being tiptoed around by the "liberal" media
I know FP is nazism, but being banned for having an opinion?
Find anything remotely looking like a gun here
I'm not sure if this has been mentioned or not, but to me the worst thing is how the Pentagon covered this up for three years and so the soldiers weren't prosecuted for their actions. This only got discovered because the journalists were killed, I hate to think of all the other times innocent civilians must have been killed.
They aren't holding those things like guns. They look more like tripods. And even if they are guns, there was no rpg, and they had no reason to fire on the group
At around 3:40, you can clearly see an RPG and other assault rifles.
This is not senseless slaughter.
I also corrected myself a few posts back. A 757 or 747 doesn't change a thing. A big ass plane couldn't have possibly hit pentagon.
They got clearance to attack, they did what they are suppose to do, albeit they acted to quickly.
I agree with that they might not have seen the kids though. They should not have been there in the first place.
I don't completely blame those guys, they thought the camera's were weapons and in the video, they do look like weapons, but I still find it rather strange that they immedeatly opened fire without actually checking whether those are real guns.
Just to wrap it up, bunch are acting like crybabies over an biased article failing to mention about insurgents carrying firearms, mostly bawwing how two children got injured and two reporters, who shoudn't have been there in the first place, getting killed by a british Ah-64D pilot who did jump to conclusions a bit too fast.
No ROE was violated and they acted according to protocol. Still made a big mistake, some got killed, it's sad I get it buit it's not like pilots should be tortured to death for it.
There is no such thing as black and white, only shades of greay and media is biased bullshit.
I think everything except for blowing up the building was justified. There was an unidentified, armed group of people acting suspiciously in a warzone, that's enough of an excuse to shoot in my opinion. Also, if the people in the van decide to go and help the armed combatants that were just shot to smithereens than they should probably expect to be shot at as well. There was a journalist there, but he probably already knew the dangers of traveling with a battle ready squad of insurgents. And the kids, well I honestly couldn't have seen them, and the guy was right when he stated that they shouldn't have brought their kids into a warzone.
The part with the missile attack on the building however, that's a different story. I believe that they made a huge mistake as they knew that civilians were in and around the building at the time they attacked. I think firing missiles into a populated area is a stupid idea and I don't like that they did that.
Even on my four inch wide low-quality Youtube video, I could tell that the cameras were not weapons. I understand that this happens, but this was due to carelessness and a jumpy trigger finger. No one bothered to make sure that they were weapons. No one confirmed anything. How do they know that the guys in the van weren't just trying to get the wounded to a hospital? Why did they assume the items being carried were weapons? Why did they state that they were being fired, when it was obvious that nothing had been fired?
Had they just waited until someone on the ground or with better sight could confirm the presence of weapons, then this would not have happened. Shit like this happens alot, from error, misjudgement, or from simple carelessness, and it always gets shoved back. That's war, it happens in all conflicts on all sides. However, these people, as are many over there, were asking for an excuse to kill, and so they started seeing cameras as AKs and embellishing their stories.
"Come on buddy."
"All ya gotta do is pick up a weapon..."
I understand it's not always convenient or possible for confirmation, but the pilots were still in the wrong. Unfortunately this may have been necessary and the rules of engagement indeed may have stated this to be proper actions, but it doesn't excuse the attitude of the pilots and the lies by the Pentagon, nor the embellishments.
This is why Wikileaks released the video. These kinds of things need to be bought to the public's attention. The mainstream media isn't even bothered to investigate these kinds of things.
Who cares whether a bunch of pixels on a TV screen looks like a gun or not. What matters is that the US military killed two civilian journalists and tried to cover it up.
We can argue about the video all day, or we can take a look at the bigger picture and realise the importance of this leak.
Who ever rated OP funny is a dick. A DICK /caps.
keep trying to rationalize this guys, keep doing it!
I can see exactly why they did it. They had black, long objects by the side of their hands, and another was peeking around the corner with a camera, which did look like an RPG. Sure, it's not fair, but the military were only doing their job.