[GoDong-DK]

He won't need 6 cores, unless he want's to render a million movies at one time.. It won't do much difference in games..

The 480 is a better card than the 5850, and CSS is pretty processor intensive, you won't be using your GPU much in that game..

[Romis]

Who told you I am buying 5850? I am buying CF 5870.

[PopLot]

I read somewhere that SLI'd 480's can go to over 100 degrees celsius if you don't have extreme cooling. On some benchmark it got so hot it warped the side window on the case.

[derlicious]

Odellus posted:

Velociraptor RAID 0 is shit from what I've heard and read. Caviar Black or Spinpoint F3 RAID 0 yields better results.

Yeh Samsung spinpoint f3 is a monster

[Ajacks]

GoDong-DK posted:

And Ajacks, why is your Avatar Iron?

Because I was a founding member of the now extinct Element mappers group from the 2006 days. You'll sparratacly see element avatars around still, I don't ever plan on changing mine. Anyways It's good since the longer I keep it the more people see that blue square and think "that's Ajacks". It's annoying to see people who change their avatar every fad and you never can recognize the user by his avatar.

[Odellus]

PopLot posted:

I read somewhere that SLI'd 480's can go to over 100 degrees celsius if you don't have extreme cooling. On some benchmark it got so hot it warped the side window on the case.

Holy shit are people really this ignorant?

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MrDoctor posted:

Don't get an nVidia board if you're gonna use Ati, also get a hex core processor, if you want a bit slower but cheaper one go with the new AMD thuban processors, you have get a 6 core 3.0ghz for $250 bucks or something, and if you use it with an Ati card it they will link together better, (not exactly a noticable difference though)

Really?

[reapaninja]

MrDoctor posted:

Don't get an nVidia board if you're gonna use Ati, also get a hex core processor, if you want a bit slower but cheaper one go with the new AMD thuban processors, you have get a 6 core 3.0ghz for $250 bucks or something, and if you use it with an Ati card it they will link together better, (not exactly a noticable difference though)

please do the world a favour and stop posting

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Ajacks posted:

It's annoying to see people who change their avatar every fad and you never can recognize the user by his avatar.

hey

[M_B]

MrDoctor posted:

Don't get an nVidia board if you're gonna use Ati, also get a hex core processor, if you want a bit slower but cheaper one go with the new AMD thuban processors, you have get a 6 core 3.0ghz for $250 bucks or something, and if you use it with an Ati card it they will link together better, (not exactly a noticable difference though)

why would he get an nVidia video card if he wanted an ATI video card? if you were talking about motherboards, almost all multi-pci-express motherboards these days work with both crossfire and sli.

six core processors aren't going to be used by any games for a while, quad core is just now sort of being used. either way, AMD's 6 core processors are a joke. yeah they've been cheaper than Intel for the last 2 years or so but there's a reason for that.

uh there's no difference on which CPU make or GPU make he gets, you're crazy

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Romis posted:

Wow .. with VLC and Firefox running, I actually have 60% CPU usage. I also have some other programs open like Skype, Steam, MSN, openoffice etc. But still..

that sucks, i just opened uTorrent, iTunes, AIM, MSN, Steam, JDownloader, Firefox (already open) and No$GBA (ds emulator) and it's only using...12% of my cpu
that can't be entirely accurate but i'm sure it's somewhat close

Edited:

PopLot posted:

I read somewhere that SLI'd 480's can go to over 100 degrees celsius if you don't have extreme cooling. On some benchmark it got so hot it warped the side window on the case.

and what mythical benchmark is this?

[Odellus]

Ajacks posted:

Because I was a founding member of the now extinct Element mappers group from the 2006 days. You'll sparratacly see element avatars around still, I don't ever plan on changing mine. Anyways It's good since the longer I keep it the more people see that blue square and think "that's Ajacks". It's annoying to see people who change their avatar every fad and you never can recognize the user by his avatar.

I love you.

[M_B]

GoDong-DK posted:

He won't need 6 cores, unless he want's to render a million movies at one time.. It won't do much difference in games..

The 480 is a better card than the 5850, and CSS is pretty processor intensive, you won't be using your GPU much in that game..

actually no CSS is slightly more GPU dependent, and either way, it's neither CPU nor GPU intensive on modern hardware

[derlicious]

MrDoctor posted:

Don't get an nVidia board if you're gonna use Ati, also get a hex core processor, if you want a bit slower but cheaper one go with the new AMD thuban processors, you have get a 6 core 3.0ghz for $250 bucks or something, and if you use it with an Ati card it they will link together better, (not exactly a noticable difference though)

:ramsay:

[gol4z03]

Im probably gonna recieve a shitstorm of boxes, but for that price you can get a neat alienware.

[derlicious]

Ok before everyone shouts

DONT FUCKING GET ALIENWARE

[reapaninja]

gol4z03 posted:

Im probably gonna recieve a shitstorm of boxes, but for that price you can get a neat alienware.

you stop posting as well

[Romis]

[Case]Corsair Obsidian Series 800D - $300
[CPU]Intel Core i7 920 - $270
[Motherboard]EVGA X58 SLI LE, Socket-1366 - $300
[GPU]ATi Asus 5870 (x2) - $906
[RAM]Corsair Dominator TWIN3X DDR3-1600 6 GB (3x2GB) - $240
[Fan Control]Zalman ZM-MFC3 - $90
[PSU]Chieftec A-135 Series 1000W PSU - $220
[GPU Waterblock]HEATKILLER® GPU-X³ 58X0 (x2) - $200
[CPU Waterblock]HEATKILLER® CPU Rev3.0 1366 LT - $65
[SSD]OCZ Vertex 2 100 GB - $480
[Radiator]Black Ice® SR1 360 Radiator Series - $105
[Pump]Swiftech MCP655™ Series 12 VDC Water Pumps - $70

[Misc]Bitspower Premium G1/4" High Flow 7/16" Fitting ( Don't know how many ) - $2.9 each
[Misc]Polypropylene "T" Fitting 1/2" - Black ( Don't know how many ) - $1.9 each

Total price: $3246

I feel like there is something I'm missing.

Is there anything I can change or is this the final build?

[Odellus]

Can you not get Ripjaws for cheaper or the same price? They do overclock better.

[Romis]

I suppose I could buy the Ripjaws, I just went with these RAM pieces.

Edited:

Should I get a pair of RAM cooling system for that?

[reapaninja]

I still think using watercooling when you know little to nothing about how it even works is just going to end badly

[derlicious]

yeh but for the ram most good tripple channel shits on newegg come with a fan

[reapaninja]

RAM cooling is a noisy gimmick

[Uberslug]

That's four times the amount of money I spent on my PC and I have been able to run every game perfectly. You're insane.

[Odellus]

Uberslug posted:

That's four times the amount of money I spent on my PC and I have been able to run every game perfectly. You're insane.

Running every game on medium settings at 30 FPS isn't for everybody.

[Uberslug]

fackoff, everything is as high as it can go

Edited:

60-100 FPS in BC2 usually

[NecroTitan]

Go check the Heatkiller 3.0 LTs compatibility page, and make sure your mobo is listed. Or at the very least not on the incompatibility list... there are a few issues with capacitor heavy (Around the socket) mobos.

[Odellus]

Uberslug posted:

fackoff, everything is as high as it can go

Edited:

60-100 FPS in BC2 usually

How the fuck did you manage to build an entire computer able to run BC2 at max with 60-100 FPS for $800?

[NecroTitan]

Odellus posted:

How the fuck did you manage to build an entire computer able to run BC2 at max with 60-100 FPS for $800?

640x480

[Uberslug]

Odellus posted:

How the fuck did you manage to build an entire computer able to run BC2 at max with 60-100 FPS for $800?

1000 dollars.

Also I already had a monitor, speakers, etc.

[Odellus]

Uberslug posted:

1000 dollars.

Also I already had a monitor, speakers, etc.

So? Not even an i5 750 + 5870/GTX 480 combo can run BC2 maxed at 1680x1050/1920x1080 with 60-100 FPS.

[NecroTitan]

Odellus posted:

So? Not even an i5 750 + 5870/GTX 480 combo can run BC2 maxed at 1680x1050/1920x1080 with 60-100 FPS.

Like I said, his res must be 640x480 or something tiny.

[SomeRandomGuy18]

Skull435 posted:

GTX 480 = ATi 5870
ATi 5970 = ATi 5870x2

So why should he be getting a 480?

480 has CUDA, 3d vision, physx, good drivers, etc.

[OCELOT323]

Odellus posted:

So? Not even an i5 750 + 5870/GTX 480 combo can run BC2 maxed at 1680x1050/1920x1080 with 60-100 FPS.

100 fps when looking at the ground

[Romis]

OCELOT323 posted:

100 fps when looking at the ground

He is mistaking BC2 for Garry's Mod. It's just a very good RP map.

Edited:

Also, he's running 640x480 with no Antialising or Anisotropic filtering.

Edited:

reapaninja posted:

I still think using watercooling when you know little to nothing about how it even works is just going to end badly

I have to start somewhere, besides, I've got a hold of a couple of guys that has build several computers with watercooling before. They know what they are doing. I probably wouldn't attempt this without their help, thanks for the concern though. :)

[NecroTitan]

Romis posted:

He is mistaking BC2 for Garry's Mod. It's just a very good RP map.

Edited:

Also, he's running 640x480 with no Antialising or Anisotropic filtering.

Edited:



I have to start somewhere, besides, I've got a hold of a couple of guys that has build several computers with watercooling before. They know what they are doing. I probably wouldn't attempt this without their help, thanks for the concern though. :)

I've got quite a bit of experience with water cooling, in fact when I do my system rebuild in ~3 months I might do a tutorial thread.
But if you have questions feel free to ask.

[Romis]

NecroTitan posted:

I've got quite a bit of experience with water cooling, in fact when I do my system rebuild in ~3 months I might do a tutorial thread.
But if you have questions feel free to ask.

I'm actually buying this system in September. Around that time. Maybe even August.

Edited:

The main thing I want to know is how you test run the water cooling. How do you hook it up to not use any of your computer's components?

[GWeasel]

OP, I don't wish to rain on your parade so to speak, however, if this build was only about having a nice new PC for mostly gaming, spending $1500 (american prices, I'm not sure about what is available to you) would be more than enough to max games for a while. In this 3-4K build the economic Law of Diminishing Return is really coming into play, that is to say: all that extra money spent really isn't boosting performance by as much as you would hope.

If you compared the build in this thread to a 1-2K computer in terms of running games, it wouldn't be a large difference, which is why people have advised that the most efficient use of the money is to save most of it for a future upgrade. You could make a second state of the art PC with that other 2 grand in the future.

[NecroTitan]

Romis posted:

The main thing I want to know is how you test run the water cooling. How do you hook it up to not use any of your computer's components?

Unplug all power-supply cables from everything except your water cooling components.

then do this

Let it run for about 24-48 hours with your t-line UNSEALED (So that air bubbles can escape) and thats it.

[Your PC components will not be damaged by a leak because they are receiving no power. This is doubly true because you will be using distilled water which cannot carry a charge. So if there is a leak Just dab with a paper towel, and pour a small amount of 90% isopropyl alcohol on the spill to help with evaporation.]

Alternatively if you have access to an air compressor you can shoot around 10-20PSI of compressed air into your loop and then seal it(With an inline pressure gauge, they're only like 20 bucks.). Leave the loop for about 16 hours and if the pressure is ROCK STEADY at what you left it at you can be confident that it won't leak with water in the loop, although i would still recommend you use the 1st testing method after doing the air pressure test.

Edit:(If any of your WC components such as the RAD fans are powered by 3-4 pin PWM cables you must buy molex adapters as you don't want to turn your motherboard on.)

[Jake951716]

http://www.ibuypower.com/

[GoDong-DK]

He's in Norway. In Denmark, prices on harware is about 2-2.5 * american prices. A 4850 in Denmark costs around 200$, or about 1100DKK. I guess the prices in Norway is about the same, but this is still just a big waste of money..

[NecroTitan]

GoDong-DK posted:

He's in Norway. In Denmark, prices on harware is about 2-2.5 * american prices. A 4850 in Denmark costs around 200$, or about 1100DKK. I guess the prices in Norway is about the same, but this is still just a big waste of money..

Let him waste his money, some facepunchers are well off and can afford to do so. Others just know that money doesn't go to the grave with you so why the fuck not. He obviously Has/Doesn't care about the money.

[thisispain]

SSD what the fuck