1. Post #1
    I SHOULDN'T OWN A FIREARM
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    http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000...513109426.html

    [release]WASHINGTON—The Supreme Court ruled for the first time that gun possession is fundamental to American freedom, giving federal judges power to strike down state and local weapons laws for infringing on Second Amendment rights.[/release]

    Basically it goes from a restriction placed on what the federal government can pass legally regarding firearms, to an obligation of the Federal government to actively protect the citizens from any and all infringements on their second amendment rights. By the federal, state, and local governments.
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  2. Post #2
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    Oh god, does this mean that people can basically get any weapon they want now? Or am I being a pillock as usual.
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    Starpluck? More like StarFUCK!!
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    Fuck yes.

    Incoming thread debate...
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  4. Post #4
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    This is great news. I'm getting a gun later this week, so it is nice to know that I have the SC on my side.
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    Sweet!

    :golfclap: Good job, Supreme Court
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  6. Post #6
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    Fucking shit. Guns fucking suck.
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  7. Post #7
    I SHOULDN'T OWN A FIREARM
    GunFox's Avatar
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    Oh god, does this mean that people can basically get any weapon they want now? Or am I being a pillock as usual.
    No it largely just means they generally can't pass laws that are more strict than federal law.

    So no handgun bans or assault weapon limitations at a state or local level.

    Fully automatic weapons, explosives, and other destructive devices are already controlled by the ATF. As are short barreled rifles and suppressors.
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    Oh great, another gun argument. The one thing I hate about some fundamental rights and laws is that they get outdated at some point.

    I'm not entirely anti-gun, it would be ok if there were controlled gun ranges and hunting grounds, but keeping guns at home 'for your own defense' is total bullshit.
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    Fuck yes.

    Incoming thread debate...
    What is there to debate? The Supreme Court has ruled.
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  10. Post #10
    Starpluck? More like StarFUCK!!
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    Fucking shit. Guns fucking suck.
    Here we go...
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  11. Post #11
    I SHOULDN'T OWN A FIREARM
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    Fuck yes.

    Incoming thread debate...
    Yeah I figured this one would be fun. :D
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  12. Post #12
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    Well this is great news.
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    Oh great, another gun argument. The one thing I hate about some fundamental rights and laws is that they get outdated at some point.

    I'm not entirely anti-gun, it would be ok if there were controlled gun ranges and hunting grounds, but keeping guns at home 'for your own defense' is total bullshit.
    brb, robbing your house
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    Starpluck? More like StarFUCK!!
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    What is there to debate? The Supreme Court has ruled.
    This is Facepunch.
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    No it largely just means they generally can't pass laws that are more strict than federal law.

    So no handgun bans or assault weapon limitations at a state or local level.

    Fully automatic weapons, explosives, and other destructive devices are already controlled by the ATF. As are short barreled rifles and suppressors.
    Can't wait to see how it reacts in Philly then. They have a gun ban there.

  16. Post #16
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    brb, robbing your house
    Somebody robs my house, I'm not going to shoot them. I'm not a trigger happy redneck.
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  17. Post #17
    LIVE LIKE A WINDRAMMER AS YOU FUCK
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    Fucking shit. Guns fucking suck.
    Goddamn motherfucking guns.
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  18. Post #18
    I'M A SHAAARK!
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    I can imagine some teabaggers somewhere saying "Ha! Take that Obama!"
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    brb, robbing your house
    Yeah fuck you. That's such a poor argument (even if you meant it sarcastically). Control out of fear is never a good thing. We're not living in the middle ages any more.
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    I can imagine some teabaggers somewhere saying "Ha! Take that Obama!"
    And then Obama saying "What the fuck are you retarded, I never said anything about taking away your guns, dipshit."
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    Oh great, another gun argument. The one thing I hate about some fundamental rights and laws is that they get outdated at some point.

    I'm not entirely anti-gun, it would be ok if there were controlled gun ranges and hunting grounds, but keeping guns at home 'for your own defense' is total bullshit.
    honestly how many times do you hear "home owner shoots rapist" or whatever

    all the shootings are either people with mental problems or gang related violence (or cops). and either way, all of those groups are going to get a firearm so a ban won't do shit.

    it's not a big deal really
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  22. Post #22
    Starpluck? More like StarFUCK!!
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    And it started!
    Somebody robs my house, I'm not going to shoot them. I'm not a trigger happy redneck.
    And what if you are incapable of subduing him in any other way then a non-lethal gunshot?

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    And it started!

    And what if you are incapable of subduing him in any other way then a non-lethal gunshot??
    Let him take my shit. I'm not going to hurt the guy. My insurance will cover it.
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    Let him take my shit. I'm not going to hurt the guy. My insurance will cover it.
    And if you had no insurance?
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    Hmmm. Now I will be 10 times more suspicious of the surrounding neighbors. :frown:
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    Let him take my shit. I'm not going to hurt the guy. My insurance will cover it.
    Thanks. I'm definitely robbing your house then. It's like a free give away :buddy:
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  27. Post #27
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    The day the government takes our guns is the day for a new government.
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  28. Post #28
    I SHOULDN'T OWN A FIREARM
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    honestly how many times do you hear "home owner shoots rapist" or whatever

    all the shootings are either people with mental problems or gang related violence (or cops). and either way, all of those groups are going to get a firearm so a ban won't do shit.

    it's not a big deal really
    It's not considered news worthy. The only times it shows up in the news are when a person shoots someone robbing their neighbor's house.

    Self defense occurs pretty often.

    Let him take my shit. I'm not going to hurt the guy. My insurance will cover it.
    My insurance is lower because I own firearms.

    Chew on that for a minute.
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    And if you had no insurance?
    Then let him take my shit. Nothing I own is more important than a human life. Perceive the way of nature and no force of man can harm you. Do not meet a wave head on: avoid it. You do not have to stop force: it is easier to redirect it. Learn more ways to preserve rather than destroy. Avoid rather than check. Check rather than hurt. Hurt rather than maim. Maim rather than kill. For all life is precious nor can any be replaced
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    omg now I can get an automatic weapon to protect my house from those pesky kids!!
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    Hmmm. Now I will be 10 times more suspicious of the surrounding neighbors. :frown:
    Why?
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    Starpluck? More like StarFUCK!!
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    Then let him take my shit. Nothing I own is more important than a human life. Perceive the way of nature and no force of man can harm you. Do not meet a wave head on: avoid it. You do not have to stop force: it is easier to redirect it. Learn more ways to preserve rather than destroy. Avoid rather than check. Check rather than hurt. Hurt rather than maim. Maim rather than kill. For all life is precious nor can any be replaced
    Enough with the philosophical shit, because you and I both know very well, that you aren't just going to sit there and relax while he takes your shit, when you can fire a possible non-lethal round.
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    I find it somewhat odd that the traditional supporters of limited Federal power and states rights, the Conservatives/Republicans, were the majority on this. And I also like how it was an exact split between Conservatives and Liberals, you don't usually see it being exactly on party lines in the SCOTUS.

    EDIT: Well you do with a few people *coughScaliacough* but not usually this rigidly.
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  34. Post #34
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    Ok how's this:

    Buy a gun. Go ahead. Get a handgun. Something to subdue an intruder. Why do you need an automatic rifle or a shotgun?
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    thx for the insight 14 year old ghandi
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    Enough with the philosophical shit, because you and I both know very well, you aren't just going to sit there and relax, while he takes your shit.
    Probably. I'd be scared shitless that he probably had a gun, and if I took one out, he'd probably pull his out.
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  37. Post #37
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    People should be able to make a responsible and mature decision, in regards to retaining weapons in their home. If they do not agree with such things, don't purchase weapons! If someone would like to have a gun in their home, as long as they don't perpetuate or commit murder, then they should be allowed to choose to obtain and retain a weapon. In truth, this whole issue of gun control is moreso about individual choice and freedom than it is about the actual use of the weapons.

    EDIT:

    Just stating: I am not a Conservative.
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    Probably. I'd be scared shitless that he probably had a gun, and if I took one out, he'd probably pull his out.
    And so somehow you're certain that he isn't murderer or some shit who'd kill you afterwords?
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    And so somehow you're certain that he isn't murderer or some shit who'd kill you afterwords?
    Hide.
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    I find it somewhat odd that the traditional supporters of limited Federal power and states rights, the Conservatives/Republicans, were the majority on this. And I also like how it was an exact split between Conservatives and Liberals, you don't usually see it being exactly on party lines in the SCOTUS.

    EDIT: Well you do with a few people *coughScaliacough* but not usually this rigidly.
    How is it odd that supporter of gun rights were the majority on this...?