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The Afghanistan war has been going on for nearly a decade, and in a smaller region compared to the entire US.
Accomplish anything? One can't say unless it's done and finished.
Short lived, on the other hand? I highly doubt it.
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If you're not going to even respond, why bother posting that?
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Does that mean by 18, I can vote to legalize pot AND also have it legal for a better selection of guns in California? Awesome.
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I've posted it before, but I still get a laugh out of it.
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Cracks me up every time.
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The conservatives on the court are on the fucking warpath now that Bush and Co are out of power. Notice the massive heaping of 5-4 party line conservative rulings lately?
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This isn't a political debate. I don't know why it wasn't 9 straight through. It's an individual right, not for the Supreme Court to decided whether it is or not, merely if the ban was constitutional.
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You can't disagree with statistics. :colbert:
The average American is likely to be overweight and doesn't hold a strenuous job.
Where Afghanistan has been unstable for decades, they have a lower population of elderly and live in tougher conditions.
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About time. This is one less debate to have to deal with in the future. But for now, let the debating continue.
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But I can disagree with a post that looks seemingly like an opinion since no statistics were stated.
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Sup Washington
All B-52s are based in the South
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No, but compare the conditions each person is raised in.
I'm not saying an Afghan can't hold a less physically taxing job and can't possibly be overweight or that an American can't be physically fit and can't be tough. I'm saying that when your born in a country like Afghanistan you're likely to be raised in tougher conditions than if you're born in America.
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guns suck, real men use their fists.
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Everyone is assuming that what ever bases are automatically going to side with what ever state they reside in.Sup Washington
All B-52s are based in the South
You do realize that people from OUT of that state are based around those?
A state in Florida can be filled with those from Ohio. A state in California might have a few from New Jersey. They're not automatically going to side with who ever.
I'm sure some will, but I highly doubt as easy you people seem to make it.
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Americans aren't born and raised to be fat
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The Supreme Court is just as much a Republican/Democrat squabbling ground as the Senate is. :colbert:
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Well, it's pretty common knowledge that most Americans are overweight and when you here about American jobs you don't really here about subsistence farming do you?
http://obesity1.tempdomainname.com/s...esity_US.shtml
http://quickfacts.census.gov/qfd/states/00000.html
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Doesn't make it right. Why does everything have to be so fucking political? It's an individual right, as put in the Bill of Rights. I just don't understand why there's even a need for a supreme court ruling such as this.
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ITT: A bunch of idiots thinking giving everyone guns will keep criminality down.
Here in Sweden, we have very restrictive gun laws. The only guns allowed are hunting rifles, and that's only with a license. In the US, practically everyone have a gun at home.
Well guess what, the murder rate and robbery rate per capita for the US is 4 times higher than for Sweden.
Guns for everyone does not work, it only makes things worse.
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For one, this isn't Sweden. We have rights here. Sorry about the loss of yours. For another, not everyone has guns because of stupid bans. Those who do, in banned areas, most likely got them illegally and have no regard for any law. This is just leaving the defenseless law abiding citizens with out a means to defend themselves.
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But how would banning guns as sweden does help the situation as it is now? If you restrict guns now in the US, a lot of law abiding citizens will suddenly be criminals. Criminals with guns. Your system works when it has always been that way, but banning and massively restricting guns in america when there are already around 350 million guns floating around in the civilian market would be a terrible idea.
For america, you would have to outright ban guns to have any noticable effect, and likely cause a lot of unrest in the process, and prevent law abiding citizens from getting guns. And those millions of guns don't just disappear, they go of course into the criminal market, and suddenly the criminal market is bulging with guns, expensive guns due to them being illegal. It's the same reason the war on drugs is a horrible idea, you can't just ban and restrict things and they magically go away.
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Are you kidding me? Last time I checked, we Swedes have MORE rights than you Americans. To assume Sweden is a fascist society just because we don't hand out guns like candy is just plain stupid. My respect for you just went to 0.
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We don't "hand out guns like candy". Sorry for not know about America. My respect for you just went to -300 from 0.
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Goddamn how is this topic still going
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Yes, I realize that you can't ban guns just like that in America, as they're already spread out. But it's not helping if you keep handing out more guns. You should instead be focusing on gradually removing the guns in circulation.
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There's a random anti-gun guy who randomly posts. For everyone on of those posts, another 30 are given in argument.
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We won't give them up. They're part of our culture and history.
And besides, those who obtained them illegally won't give them up now, let alone with your crappy ideas of removing gradually.
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Yes, but they'll defect, and as China, the Soviet Union, Vietnam, North Korea and Yugoslavia has shown, they tend to do it with the aircraft, since it's easier defecting in a plane, then say, a tank
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The ruling doesn't even mean anything as long as "reasonable regulations" are permitted. The lower courts get to fight out the definition of "reasonable" until the end of time.
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True, I suppose that would happen.
I guess we won't really know until it happens.
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My crappy ideas? How about your ideas for giving out more guns, getting more guns in circulation and essentially increasing the amounts of armed murders and robberies?
A society where every man can have a gun legally will never be a crime-less society, it won't even come close.
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apples and oranges
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It works in Switzerland.
That shows how much you know about the topic, nowhere near everyone in the US owns a gun.
Does Sweden also have the same poverty and gang member statistics? Do they also have drug laws as strict as the USs?
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Switzerland.
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I never assumed sweden was a fascist country at all, I am just saying that sweden has probably always been very strict on firearms, and as such has never had a large amount of them floating around for civilians. Because there's not a lot of them, it is entirely feasible for them to be banned and restricted.
Because america has always had a free trading situation as far as guns are concerned, there are a lot of them floating around. And the only way to stop them from floating around and, in your point of view, reduce crime, would be to create a lot of criminals from citizens who legally bought guns.
I don't mean to seem rude at all, but you can't understand the american system without living in america. I don't understand the swedish and european system either, it's just that different people need different solutions.
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Guns aren't the problem, everything else is.
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I've never seen a complete crime-less society before. If you think Sweden is, you live in a dream world.
And not all Americans are "murderers and robbers". You're showing your intelligence pretty well. Or lack thereof, I should say.
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According to statistics, US doesn't have the highest gun related homicides. They are outshined by Mexico, Brazil, and Estonia. Just thought I'd throw that out there.
Before you all go crying "conjecture": source
If you read on, actually the US has less gun-related deaths than other countries outside the 15-24 age group.
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You think that people will stop being criminals just because of the lesser availability of legal guns?
Funny man, great joke.
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I've never stated Sweden was a crime-less society, but surely every normal person's dream is to have a society with as little crime as possible.
And I haven't stated that all Americans are murderers and robbers, I've only stated that with more guns in peoples hands there are going to be more shootings. Not everyone will kill someone just because they have a gun, but there are plenty who will, in any country.
So they just have the 4th highest gun-related homicides. That's still pretty damn high, don't you think :V
Also, I'd like to say that I see your point about it not being possible to ban guns since they already are in circulation and part of your culture, and that other conditions are also responsible for the high robbery/murder numbers, but isn't it better to work towards a decrease of guns in circulation instead of an increase? :/
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That's unsurprising.
Hmmm... I wonder where those countries get all their guns?
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Give me some stats on the number of murders committed by people who legally owned guns please and then I'll believe you.
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By people who illegally sell them.
Hmmm, it looks like those people would be unaffected by any gun laws! Gee whiz!
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