1. Post #5681
    Gold Member
    DarkSamus's Avatar
    January 2005
    6,546 Posts
    "At first, there was nothing. But then, Costa made Operation. And he looked upon it and he saw that it was good to go. Then he made Magpul. And it was good to go. And then he made Tactics. And it was good to go. Finally, he made Tight Pants. And he looked upon it all and he saw that it was tactically good to go." Tactics 1:11
    THE ONLY GOOD POST YOU HAVE ONLY EVER MADE

    good work you are improving
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  2. Post #5682
    ASK ME ABOUT MY BAKELITE FETISH
    Dennab
    April 2011
    6,395 Posts
    that's one hell of a salmon

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  3. Post #5683
    NEO 卐 NAZI HERO <3
    Inafinus :3's Avatar
    September 2009
    3,390 Posts
    that chain around his arm must be uncomfortable
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  4. Post #5684
    PERKELE
    JoonazL's Avatar
    May 2009
    4,049 Posts
    its a handcuff for tactical handcuffing action
    EDIT:
    wait fuck im retarded i read that wrong and thought you mean the one round his neck
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  5. Post #5685
    Jherkin Gherkin
    Dennab
    October 2010
    12,162 Posts
    there were pictures of random us army soldiers with them
    interesting shitte
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  6. Post #5686
    Taepodong-2's Avatar
    December 2009
    10,626 Posts
    Apparently this is a CZ75
    http://www.evike.com/product_info.ph...69fddb1f48d59e

    I see no resemblance
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  7. Post #5687
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    catbarf's Avatar
    January 2007
    5,121 Posts
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  8. Post #5688
    Gold Member
    FloaterTWO's Avatar
    November 2008
    5,022 Posts
    regardless of it not being a proper CZ-75 i think it looks p. neat
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  9. Post #5689
    Shotgun Guru
    notrabies's Avatar
    February 2009
    5,337 Posts
    Its a CZ-75 P-07, like it says:
    http://www.cz-usa.com/products/view/cz-p07-duty/
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  10. Post #5690
    iFail's Avatar
    March 2009
    2,254 Posts
    one easy way to identify a CZ 75 derivative is the size of the slide. The original design had much of the slide contained in the frame, so you'll notice that the slide is short(from a side view). This applies to a lot of cz varients, where everything else is modded to the point of being unrecognizable.
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  11. Post #5691
    Taepodong-2's Avatar
    December 2009
    10,626 Posts
    Brazil's new service rifle looks like a Pimp My Gun creation
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  12. Post #5692
    iFail's Avatar
    March 2009
    2,254 Posts
    I don't get why some many countries want to make some kind of indigenous rifle. License an established, quality firearm. No issues with trying to unfuck your gun's design and you can get COTS upgrades and parts.
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  13. Post #5693
    Taepodong-2's Avatar
    December 2009
    10,626 Posts
    I don't get why some many countries want to make some kind of indigenous rifle. License an established, quality firearm. No issues with trying to unfuck your gun's design and you can get COTS upgrades and parts.
    It's more or less just a modernized FAL chambered in 5.56.
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  14. Post #5694
    iFail's Avatar
    March 2009
    2,254 Posts
    so, why not a SCAR-L? It's a better design in pretty much every way, especially considering the reliability issues with the MD-97? To me that gun screams "We wanted to make our guns cool and modern so instead of fixing any real issues, we put rails on it, so that people can mount accessories that won't be mass issued until 2025, and designed a terrible stock."
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  15. Post #5695
    Bestest polish IFAPer
    BBOOBBYY!'s Avatar
    February 2007
    3,585 Posts
    Propably quite damn old, but still:



    I don't know.
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  16. Post #5696
    Gold Member
    wewt!'s Avatar
    July 2008
    11,624 Posts
    I don't get why some many countries want to make some kind of indigenous rifle. License an established, quality firearm. No issues with trying to unfuck your gun's design and you can get COTS upgrades and parts.
    thats what we did, and got a rifle with a plastic extractor (f2000s)
    other than that it's supposedly ok
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  17. Post #5697
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    catbarf's Avatar
    January 2007
    5,121 Posts
    I don't get why some many countries want to make some kind of indigenous rifle. License an established, quality firearm. No issues with trying to unfuck your gun's design and you can get COTS upgrades and parts.
    So when your gun has shortcomings (and the SCAR-L you suggested is by no means a perfect gun), your license agreement precludes altering the design and producing a derivative. Plus it's much cheaper to design than to license.
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  18. Post #5698
    iFail's Avatar
    March 2009
    2,254 Posts
    So when your gun has shortcomings (and the SCAR-L you suggested is by no means a perfect gun), your license agreement precludes altering the design and producing a derivative. Plus it's much cheaper to design than to license.
    Scar-l's still definitely a lot more reliable than the md-97 they went with, and has better ergos. Making derivatives is largely pointless anyway. Half of these countries, once they start making their own designs or "improvements", everything goes to shit. Just look at that buttstock. It looks just like some incompetent designer's idea of a scar or ACR stock, without any understanding of what makes the stock good. It has a shitty cheekweld, no cheekriser, and really shitty sling attachment points. Really, if you want a derivative, find the company you licensed the gun off and have them do it, like the g36KV.
    While when licensing a gun, there are shortcomings, that's hardly an issue compared to the problems found when some country decides to roll their own. Look at the INSAS. It's a POS. Mexico's xiuhcoatl? ehhh, pretty much a g36 without the patented features.
    Admittedly, countries have tried to buy COTS rifles to disastrous results. Georgia bought a ton of Bushmaster ARs when they could have got Colts for a similar price. Really, the root issue comes down to corruption and bad research.
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  19. Post #5699
    YEAH, AND?
    felix the cat's Avatar
    December 2010
    8,351 Posts
    So everyone should just stop developing and attempting to improve firearms designs and just buy existing designs and succeed in bringing firearms development to a grinding halt?
    Whatever you say pumpkin
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  20. Post #5700
    Gold Member
    Instant Mix's Avatar
    October 2006
    3,195 Posts
    Brazil's new service rifle looks like a Pimp My Gun creation
    When I was scrolling up I genuinely thought it was a PMG gun. I'm not even joking.
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  21. Post #5701
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    TaiwanesePrick's Avatar
    August 2011
    3,614 Posts
    Scar-l's still definitely a lot more reliable than the md-97 they went with, and has better ergos. Making derivatives is largely pointless anyway. Half of these countries, once they start making their own designs or "improvements", everything goes to shit. Just look at that buttstock. It looks just like some incompetent designer's idea of a scar or ACR stock, without any understanding of what makes the stock good. It has a shitty cheekweld, no cheekriser, and really shitty sling attachment points. Really, if you want a derivative, find the company you licensed the gun off and have them do it, like the g36KV.
    While when licensing a gun, there are shortcomings, that's hardly an issue compared to the problems found when some country decides to roll their own. Look at the INSAS. It's a POS. Mexico's xiuhcoatl? ehhh, pretty much a g36 without the patented features.
    Admittedly, countries have tried to buy COTS rifles to disastrous results. Georgia bought a ton of Bushmaster ARs when they could have got Colts for a similar price. Really, the root issue comes down to corruption and bad research.
    You uh, don't seem to have a problem with the T91... it is an indigenous rifle after all...
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  22. Post #5702
    BROFISTICUS's Avatar
    September 2011
    132 Posts
    In brazil's defence, they didn't just put a stock and rails on    They put on a new pistol grip, too   
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  23. Post #5703
    Hirouzamaki's Avatar
    December 2009
    706 Posts
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  24. Post #5704
    iFail's Avatar
    March 2009
    2,254 Posts
    So everyone should just stop developing and attempting to improve firearms designs and just buy existing designs and succeed in bringing firearms development to a grinding halt?
    Whatever you say pumpkin
    Not quite. My point was that these countries shouldn't waste time making indigenous firearms like the INSAS or whatever. First off, these indigenous firearms don't really contribute to the industry anyway, since most of them are bad rip offs or existing designs, with nothing new to add. Do you actually think some poor ass country can start from scratch and build a better, more innovative rifle than an established company, which already has everything in place? Bureaucrats should stick to what they know.
    The whole indigenous rifle shit stinks of corruption. I'd bet that one of the main reasons they roll their own is to cut costs and to give work to subcontractors they hold shares in. There's really no other reason to build an indigenous rifle. If you want a custom gun, ask a real company to do it, they won't turn down a huge contract just because you have a few requests.

    Edited:

    You uh, don't seem to have a problem with the T91... it is an indigenous rifle after all...
    It's supposed to be good, but it's a piston clone of a m16. not hugely innovative, admittedly moreso than that HK416 everyone was jizzing on. A lot of good indigenous rifles are clones. Type 89 is a AR18.
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  25. Post #5705
    Oh no, what have I done!
    milkandcooki's Avatar
    November 2007
    15,062 Posts
    high speed low drag chest hair

    also costa has a nice body
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  26. Post #5706
    Gold Member
    Stupideye's Avatar
    October 2006
    12,328 Posts
    also costa has a nice body
    we get it youre gay
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  27. Post #5707
    ASK ME ABOUT MY BAKELITE FETISH
    Dennab
    April 2011
    6,395 Posts
    we get it youre gay
    i was gonna say that

    also no he doesn't
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  28. Post #5708
    Taepodong-2's Avatar
    December 2009
    10,626 Posts
    Indian army cadets
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  29. Post #5709
    TheDon's Avatar
    January 2012
    529 Posts
    Indian army cadets
    Whats up with the fail camo?
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  30. Post #5710
    Jherkin Gherkin
    Dennab
    October 2010
    12,162 Posts
    works in the average indian store
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  31. Post #5711
    Gold Member
    Psychokitten's Avatar
    July 2009
    8,675 Posts
    works in the average indian store
    There's an Indian store near where I live, and I can confirm that.

    They have some pretty neat stuff though.
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  32. Post #5712
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    QQnMarine's Avatar
    December 2011
    871 Posts
    Brazil's new service rifle looks like a Pimp My Gun creation
    kinda reminds me a little bit of a sig
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  33. Post #5713
    I ROLL THE NICKELS
    CodeMonkey3's Avatar
    October 2008
    16,553 Posts
    THE TAVAR THIRTY SIX

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  34. Post #5714
    iFail's Avatar
    March 2009
    2,254 Posts
    what is that abomination

    Edited:

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  35. Post #5715
    ಥ益ಥ ... Beautiful.
    Kill001's Avatar
    April 2006
    10,575 Posts
    looks like the distance between the stock and grip are long as fuc and uncomfortable and as an ironic twist, it takes the ak bayonet and stanags at the same time
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  36. Post #5716
    iFail's Avatar
    March 2009
    2,254 Posts
    lol the flashlight is so badly placed
    "you want to put your weak hand on handguard? no! I put flashlight there now you can't hold gun."
    also lol carry handle. You don't need a carry handle on an assault rifle, that shit is so 90s.
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  37. Post #5717
    ಥ益ಥ ... Beautiful.
    Kill001's Avatar
    April 2006
    10,575 Posts
    actually, besides heavy machineguns and other heavy weaponry, what the fuck are carrying handles even for?
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  38. Post #5718
    Lizzrd's Avatar
    December 2009
    7,340 Posts
    They look cool.

    Edited:

    No point with em if you got a sling though.
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  39. Post #5719
    Captain Armed Dildo, Master of Ratings
    cpt.armadillo's Avatar
    February 2011
    4,841 Posts
    Hmm, ghost page!
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  40. Post #5720
    Bestest polish IFAPer
    BBOOBBYY!'s Avatar
    February 2007
    3,585 Posts
    nooooope.
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