Hell I have a collapsible stock on my M4 but it doesn't mean I change the length when I go from outside to inside a building. Even when I've used full stock weapons inside rooms I still shoulder it like I would outside. I mean I can use a M14 inside a building and shoot outside the windows just fine (only time I'm allowed to use rifles inside anyways). And most of the time I DO switch to a pistol for CQB. Why would you need range for CQB anyways? I mean you shooting close quarters, 20 yards max, not a hard shot with a pistol.
I never said a gun with a full stock wasn't a carbine. I just said for me, in my opinion, that they can be harder to use for some people in certain situations.
Also: honestly, using a full stock indoors really isn't that bad. I have a crane stock, mind you, but I've used it full extended inside without issue. That said, my main field actually requires the use of pistols/shotguns to clear buildings, so I don't have a ton of experience clearing that way, but firing out and such, I've done it with the stock full collapsed or fully extended. Haven't noticed a huge difference, and I carry it on the second or third position most of the time. Can't say I understand some of the smaller guys with fullstocks, it just seems too big for them, but that's just me I suppose.
I'd laugh if I actually heard Judge Judy say that, honestly.
But like I said, it's a matter of preference. I find a collapsable stock better than a full stock. If you don't like my opinion, tough shit. It's the internet.
i agree with identity i dont know why but the solid stock just doesnt feel right to me when i use it
It feels uncomfortable to me. Don't know why, it just does.
I like both.
Eh, both are fine choices. It's just down to opinion.
Soon. As in, next year.
I raged so fucking hard that yet another person suggests that gun.
Am I the only one who thinks the Kriss is an abomination?
Its beautiful in an ugly sort of way.
Also, its recoil mechanism is brilliant, just sayin'.
I like its skeletal stock the most.
That's one long suppressor...
That's what she said...
Actually, Sweetie, can you say it for me? :D
I like the Kriss is beautiful.
Looks like a nailgun.
Been playing metro 2033, I now want the vss even more.
I like the AS VAL more.
Personally, I like them better in S.T.A.L.K.E.R. than anything else, because they have the super-amazing bullet dropping, due to being a subsonic 9mm round. Capping some exoskeleton zombies in 2 shots with the thing is amazing.
Little S.T.A.L.K.E.R. story inbound.
I remember the first time I saw it (the Vintorez as I'd never seen one before) I thought WTF!?! this looks a bit odd. I kept a hold of it as it was suppressed as I thought it might come in handy for picking off a bunch of Mercs that were hanging around an building that I was trying to get into. After sneaking up on the building I dug in amongst some rubble, loaded the 'Vin' took aim and hit the fun button. :c00l:
Ten seconds and twenty rounds later, four Mercs lay dead and the other four that were hanging around had no clue that half of their number had died. Five minutes later the rest of the Mercs died in short order without a single round being fired in retaliation. :ninja:
After that I always kept the Vintorez in my gear as it was perfect for quietly dealing with guards, bandits and the irradiated nasties that inhabited The Zone from a distance and if some-thing/one got the drop on me I could fill them/it with 9mm subsonic rounds. :fuckoff:
God damnit! After typing that I want a airsoft Vintorez even more :argh:
Cheers for correcting me.
I really hope a company picks up on this soon, the amount of people who made their own VSS and As val rifles is increasing. Or at least some sort of conversion kit.
Complete with a few low cap mags.
Pretty sure there is a VSS in the hatch of Freedom base, it's on the top right corner (Around where you break in with Duty) You may need a stash location to actually get it though.
Since seeing it a while back, i've always thought it looked unique.
It's almost got a bulldog type look.
It's short and bulky, but it looks pretty mean.
I think the extended barrel makes it uglier than sin though.
Kind of defeats the purpose.
It's like the civilian P90.
Sure it's awesome owning a P90, but you defeat the purpose of one when it has a huge barrel on the end.
I got the secret stash in X16. You have to get really lucky and search a soldier in the Yatnar area. Too bad the only PDA you can find form a soldier is from the soldier with the Healing Beril. So it's just luck.
I want my knorr bremse bullpup.