[Sonicfan574]

ButtsexV2 posted:

freshmen, freshmen everywhere

Yessir

Though, I prefer the less retarded Canadian way to say it: 9th grade

[Bletotum]

School using gamemaker? That's just sad.

[Mattk50]

Sonicfan574 posted:

Yessir

Though, I prefer the less retarded Canadian way to say it: 9th grade

theres nothing wrong with either way, personally i think 9th makes more sense and freshmen only applies to college, but...

[BenJ]

My school's "Introduction to computer science" class last year was a complete flop. Most people took it assuming it was another Windows Movie Maker / Photoshop / Photography class, though it was ActionScript. Class average was 54%, I passed the class with 100%.

Though I'm actually taking the Information Technology class this year, which consists of the Photography / Video editing and maybe *Gasp* using Dreamweaver to create a website (Extremely likely using the design view).

Quite interesting class, I really want to figure out the manual features of my point-and-shoot Canon and how to take better pictures.

[Bc305]

Bletotum posted:

School using gamemaker? That's just sad.

They do it at our school too(Officially), but most of the people who take that class know C++ anyway, so the teacher lets them use that instead.

[DOG-GY]

I teach a class at my own high school :c00l:

[B1N4RY!]

Sonicfan574 posted:

Yessir

Though, I prefer the less retarded Canadian way to say it: 9th grade

8th grade for our school district

[Xenocidebot]

Why does everybody hate on game maker?
It's the quickest way I can think of to make a terrible shmup. You can make the Sweet Bro and Hella Jeff of R-Type clones in a minute.

Very useful skill for all young adults to have.

[Bletotum]

B1N4RY! posted:

8th grade

superfreshman

[DJSergei]

Xenocidebot posted:

Why does everybody hate on game maker?
It's the quickest way I can think of to make a terrible shmup. You can make the Sweet Bro and Hella Jeff of R-Type clones in a minute.

Very useful skill for all young adults to have.

if your into bad platformers then ok

[Sonicfan574]

Xenocidebot posted:

Very useful skill for all young adults to have.

Not if you're close to leaving for college.

[.ediT]

Sonicfan574 posted:

Last year, when a bunch of people from the high school came to show us what kind of courses there were, they said there was a game creation class for 11th graders or something. They turned on a laptop they brought, and they showed us fucking GAME MAKER LITE, and a pile of shit 5-minute games they made with it, claiming that they took several weeks to make.

When people were commenting on it, I laughed and said "What kind of computer class uses Game Maker?" and the teacher of that class overheard, came up to me and asked what I used in a rude tone. I don't actually use these yet (though I'm learning Python), but off the top of my head, I named Python, C, and Lua. They then went back to the presentation without saying anything.

Now that I'm going to the high school, I haven't seen that teacher, the kids, and I haven't seen any class of that sort. I haven't even heard anyone mention it yet.

man that's rough, you must have been really offended to see that they were using a basic program. I don't know how you made it through the day man, you're my hero.

[Onlyonebowman]

I have some content:

So in my Introduction to Engineering class I have to take with an ass load of freshmen we were assigned a project to research a household item and find out the history behind it.

One smart kid chose the laptop, oh it gets better

After stating that an iPad is a laptop because it has a pop up touch screen keyboard, he goes on to say that newer innovations in laptops are touch screens, bigger RAM discs, and wifi capabilities.

Also he didn't even mention the netbook which surprised me alot, but after saying the iPad is a laptop, I don't expect much quality from this kid.

[Xenocidebot]

DJSergei posted:

if your into bad platformers then ok

Sonicfan574 posted:

Not if you're close to leaving for college.

sarcasm bros
guess the reference went over your head sorry

there are examples of decent stuff having been made with it though
that and like multimedia fusion 2 or whatever
they seem useless as shit especially considering how other folks tend to use them until you look at somebody like Nifflas and realize how much time he'd lose if he were actually coding

excluding that action game he made recently because it played like wet ass
just saying for the creative dude who doesn't have the years to pull a Pixel and actually learn C++ it's pretty much the only option available not much reason to hate on it specifically

[Soviet Russia]

I have a Computer Graphics class in my school were we have DreamWeaver CS4, Fireworks CS4 and Photoshop CS2 on every computer; AND the teacher actualy knows what the fuck she is talking about.

[bios_hazard]

Soviet Russia posted:

I have a Computer Graphics class in my school were we have DreamWeaver CS4, Fireworks CS4 and Photoshop CS2 on every computer; AND the teacher actualy knows what the fuck she is talking about.

Dear god.

[Mattk50]

Soviet Russia posted:

I have a Computer Graphics class in my school were we have DreamWeaver CS4, Fireworks CS4 and Photoshop CS2 on every computer; AND the teacher actualy knows what the fuck she is talking about.

sounds fun.

[wingless]

Sonicfan574 posted:

Last year, when a bunch of people from the high school came to show us what kind of courses there were, they said there was a game creation class for 11th graders or something. They turned on a laptop they brought, and they showed us fucking GAME MAKER LITE, and a pile of shit 5-minute games they made with it, claiming that they took several weeks to make.

When people were commenting on it, I laughed and said "What kind of computer class uses Game Maker?" and the teacher of that class overheard, came up to me and asked what I used in a rude tone. I don't actually use these yet (though I'm learning Python), but off the top of my head, I named Python, C, and Lua. They then went back to the presentation without saying anything.

Now that I'm going to the high school, I haven't seen that teacher, the kids, and I haven't seen any class of that sort. I haven't even heard anyone mention it yet.

Why can't any school use XNA, Why not!? It's made for games, Jesus.

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Soviet Russia posted:

I have a Computer Graphics class in my school were we have DreamWeaver CS4, Fireworks CS4 and Photoshop CS2 on every computer; AND the teacher actualy knows what the fuck she is talking about.

Lies, They must be lies, That's just impossible. Pitty it's using dreamweaver, Sigh. Why can't they just teach html and css code!

[ace13]

I was in a webdesign class last year, throughout that class we used XHTML, CSS, Javascript (and jQuery).
It also tied in with the PHP + MySQL class I was taking the same year.
We were also supposed to make a page through a graphical utility but the teacher didn't really care about that part.

Good times...

[Mattk50]

ace13 posted:

I was in a webdesign class last year, throughout that class we used XHTML, CSS, Javascript (and jQuery).
It also tied in with the PHP + MySQL class I was taking the same year.
We were also supposed to make a page through a graphical utility but the teacher didn't really care about that part.

Good times...

lucky bastard, all they taught me was basic (and some tags no longer used) HTML and CSS. what grade level is this?

[teeheeV2]

Bletotum posted:

School using gamemaker? That's just sad.

Why?

Our school used it earlier this year in Intro to Programming (On Semester Course, Required for Programming in Year 11)

A lot of the class had no idea, and using it helped them get the required amount of logic.

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Soviet Russia posted:

I have a Computer Graphics class in my school were we have DreamWeaver CS4, Fireworks CS4 and Photoshop CS2 on every computer; AND the teacher actualy knows what the fuck she is talking about.

We have the entire CS4 suite :smug:

[Mattk50]

oh, all this talk about school game design stuff reminds me, my year in middle school was probably the last solidly computer illiterate group thanks to a change in the course plan a year down: they learned how to make games in *eh* scratch. it is better than nothing, most of those guys who i still know around know something or other about working a computer. sadly, people from my year are all clueless to everything involving circuitry.

[Daniellynet]

teeheeV2 posted:

Why?

Our school used it earlier this year in Intro to Programming (On Semester Course, Required for Programming in Year 11)

A lot of the class had no idea, and using it helped them get the required amount of logic.

Edited:



We have the entire CS4 suite :smug:

My school has the entire CS5 suite. :smug:

[teeheeV2]

Daniellynet posted:

My school has the entire CS5 suite. :smug:

Mine is a State School

[BreenIsALie]

Daniellynet posted:

My school has the entire CS5 suite. :smug:

I really want that. My school has the CS3 Suite

[ProWaffle]

Daniellynet posted:

My school has the entire CS5 suite. :smug:

My school has the entire CS3, CS4 and CS5 suite.


And all of them installed at once because that makes it really good!



No joking, they do.

[codenamecueball]

We learned programming with SCRATCH

Look it up. I dare you.

Edited:

We learned programming with SCRATCH

Look it up. I dare you.

[Jack Trades]

Looks like Lego Mindstorm scripting thingy.
Edited:
Looks like Lego Mindstorm scripting thingy.

[Niteshifter]

codenamecueball posted:

We learned programming with SCRATCH

Look it up. I dare you.

Edited:

We learned programming with SCRATCH

Look it up. I dare you.

I hate those types of languages. We had to use Alice because our teacher wanted to try something new. He already taught several other languages such as C++, Java, Fortran, etc. and the curriculum for the course is just for learning the semantics of OOP. I only really took it for the credits, but it sucked that I wasn't making anything productive.

[ProWaffle]

codenamecueball posted:

We learned programming with SCRATCH

Look it up. I dare you.

Edited:

We learned programming with SCRATCH

Look it up. I dare you.

Oh christ that is horrid.

MY EYES

[Warship]

tommyc225 posted:

My new computing class is pretty awesomme. 4 of the lessons are devoted to coding and the other 2 are hardware and networking. And, the teachers are good too!

Not fair :saddowns:

[ProWaffle]

Warship posted:

Not fair :saddowns:

Just to make you feel better...


I get lots of school time dedicated to learning to program in Objective-C and develop for iOS.

This is in primary school.



:smug:

[wingless]

ProWaffle posted:

Just to make you feel better...


I get lots of school time dedicated to learning to program in Objective-C and develop for iOS.

This is in primary school.



:smug:

1) You're in primary school? So you aren't even passed grade 6/7?
2) Objective-C Is an awful language, The only reason apple used it is to be different, It's basically a dumbed down version of C, which is now redundant because of C# and C++ and other languages.

[Bomimo]

wingless posted:

1) You're in primary school? So you aren't even passed grade 6/7?
2) Objective-C Is an awful language, The only reason apple used it is to be different, It's basically a dumbed down version of C, which is now redundant because of C# and C++ and other languages.

a drop of info. Outside America, Primary school is untill 9/10th grade. because we don't have to make our kids feel like grown ups with fake naming schemes.

[ProWaffle]

wingless posted:

1) You're in primary school? So you aren't even passed grade 6/7?
2) Objective-C Is an awful language, The only reason apple used it is to be different, It's basically a dumbed down version of C, which is now redundant because of C# and C++ and other languages.

1) Yes, I'm in grade 7.

2) Can't really comment on this one, not experienced enough to really know, so whatever I say is probably wrong. However, I'm finding it fine. It's certainly not dumbed down in comparison to C. If you're saying C is redundant because it's procedural, you're right, but in that case that statement is irrelevant - while I've never used them, aren't C# and C++ just object-oriented extensions to C? That's exactly what Objective-C is.


I'm not sure why but there seems to be an Objective-C hate bandwagon because it's different and not well known. Perhaps you could elaborate on why it's so disliked? I quite like it (and the IDE is amazing).

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Bomimo posted:

a drop of info. Outside America, Primary school is untill 9/10th grade. because we don't have to make our kids feel like grown ups with fake naming schemes.

Actually primary is up to 7 here - although it's 6 in some other states.

:australia:

[Sir Whoopsalot]

ProWaffle posted:

If you're saying C is redundant because it's procedural, you're right, but in that case that statement is irrelevant

Which reminds me, what exactly is the difference between procedural and any other sorts of programming?

[ProWaffle]

Sir Whoopsalot posted:

Which reminds me, what exactly is the difference between procedural and any other sorts of programming?

The most popular style is object-oriented - 95% of modern languages are object-oriented, so whether you like it or not (i couldn't imagine using any other style though) you'll have to use object-oriented or you'll be severely limited.

Hmm... how to answer your question... I can't be assed explaining, so Google "object oriented programming vs procedural programming" and see what comes up.

[mfb412]

BreenIsALie posted:

I really want that. My school has the CS3 Suite

so does mine...
i wish those idiots would wake up and realize that the computers they provided us with are massive bottlenecks to everything (E8400's with 2 GB of ram and... Intel X3100 graphics :saddowns: )

[little.sparrow]

speaking of schools using gamemaker, my school uses it. dont know if it still does.

[Warship]

My school doesn't even have any IT classes you can take. Maybe it's for the best though...Although some of the teachers are quite good at computers as far as I can tell