1. Post #3921
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    November 2010
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    I'll try the Beta/RC, might end up waiting for the "minor" release after 8 though to save some money.

    Edited:

    I have done some thinking on previous versions of Windows though and each version is better than the previous (in my opinion) in some way or another.
    Especially, though, in the case of XP > Vista > 7
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  2. Post #3922
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    reevezy67's Avatar
    July 2011
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    Thinking of installing, does it have any compatibility issues? I'm guessing its just using most of windows 7 so it should be fine with most things?

    Kinda sucks I have to find a dvd or usb to install too, I loved being able to install from within windows.

    Edited:

    Oh and the deleting files thing, does it delete files only on the partition it's installed on?
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  3. Post #3923
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  4. Post #3924
    I once worked at a sperm bank, the food was terrible
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    I'm just saying, if 8 turns out to be another ME/Vista there is always an alternative.
    Linux is only good for servers and casual PC's, or any extra PC's you don't wanna pay to upgrade the OS.
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  5. Post #3925
    Dennab
    November 2010
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    Linux is only good for servers and casual PC's, or any extra PC's you don't wanna pay to upgrade the OS.
    Seems good enough for me.
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  6. Post #3926
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    September 2011
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    Happy Linux user here. But I prefer playing Minecraft In Windows.
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  7. Post #3927
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    Linux is only good for servers and casual PC's, or any extra PC's you don't wanna pay to upgrade the OS.
    Where your definition of casual = "Doesn't play that game that I really like", because in reality Linux is better for much more than that.
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  8. Post #3928
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    My Windows 8 install thoroughly fucked its self yesterday. Wouldn't boot, complaining "innaccessible_boot_device". I tried the usual flipping the SATA mode from IDE/AHCI/RAID and it still didn't work. Even after about 3 hours of messing with BCD/Boot Sector/BIOS settings it refused to work (I knew all my of data was still on the disk since I could access it from command prompt in WinRE..

    I ended up giving in and just installing Windows 7 again
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  9. Post #3929
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    Dual booting with pre-release stuff is always a good idea.
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  10. Post #3930
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    Dual booting with pre-release stuff is always a good idea.
    Your joking right?
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  11. Post #3931
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    Your joking right?
    Well it's better than replacing your current OS with it.
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  12. Post #3932
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    Well it's better than replacing your current OS with it.
    It's better to use VMWare, or whatever you like to use for virtual OS's.

    Cause when you want to remove the dual boot, you risk fucking up your original windows configurations.
    You can't just delete the partition with the beta and reallocate it to your original, gotta have the CD.
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  13. Post #3933
    I once worked at a sperm bank, the food was terrible
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    Where your definition of casual = "Doesn't play that game that I really like", because in reality Linux is better for much more than that.
    Well most productivity/office apps are Windows and OSX, and using Wine is not a really good solution.
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  14. Post #3934
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    It's better to use VMWare, or whatever you like to use for virtual OS's.

    Cause when you want to remove the dual boot, you risk fucking up your original windows configurations.
    You can't just delete the partition with the beta and reallocate it to your original, gotta have the CD.
    Change the OS you want to go back to's entry in the BCD to be default, delete the older one, fin.
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  15. Post #3935
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    It's better to use VMWare, or whatever you like to use for virtual OS's.

    Cause when you want to remove the dual boot, you risk fucking up your original windows configurations.
    You can't just delete the partition with the beta and reallocate it to your original, gotta have the CD.
    http://neosmart.net/EasyBCD/
    Also I have my Windows 7 DVD sitting right on my desk within reach at any time.

    I'll be fine.
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  16. Post #3936
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    It's better to use VMWare, or whatever you like to use for virtual OS's.

    Cause when you want to remove the dual boot, you risk fucking up your original windows configurations.
    You can't just delete the partition with the beta and reallocate it to your original, gotta have the CD.
    VMWare really sucks when you want to try something like Windows 8 out.
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  17. Post #3937
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  18. Post #3938
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    Well most productivity/office apps are Windows and OSX, and using Wine is not a really good solution.
    I disagree, libreoffice is a perfect replacement for all of your office needs.
    I think linux is the perfect alternative if you're not going to want to play any games on your machine, or just a few java based games or games that run flawlessly through wine.
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  19. Post #3939
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    I disagree, libreoffice is a perfect replacement for all of your office needs.
    I think linux is the perfect alternative if you're not going to want to play any games on your machine, or just a few java based games or games that run flawlessly through wine.
    What's the difference between that and Open Office for example? (To name another open source office thing) because Open Office just doesn't work as a replacement to MS Office
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  20. Post #3940
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    March 2007
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    As far as I remember Open Office has been sort of abandoned, Libreoffice is updated much more often
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  21. Post #3941
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    Well most productivity/office apps are Windows and OSX, and using Wine is not a really good solution.
    Where are you getting those statistics from? There are plenty of productivity apps on Linux-based platforms, the repos are quite filled.
    What's the difference between that and Open Office for example? (To name another open source office thing) because Open Office just doesn't work as a replacement to MS Office
    LibreOffice is OpenOffice and a whole lot of patches that weren't accepted in OpenOffice. Actually it's much more than that but that is mostly what you need to know. Since OpenOffice already worked as a replacement for MS Office unlike what you claimed (it helps when you use real open formats like OpenDocument rather than OOXML), LibreOffice just does the job even better.
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  22. Post #3942
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    I've used Linux, and I think it has some potential. I just feel that the brilliant neckbeards behind it don't quite understand user dynamics the way Microsoft and Apple do. Without corporate backing and a wide variety of fully-supported professional apps, it's very difficult to have a successful OS, either in the Consumer space (They handle this pretty well, but not well enough for most people to consider the transition) or the Professional space. (Most professional apps, and I won't list them for the sake of space, are simply unavailable on Linux/Unix. You've got to have money to buy platform agreements, and FOSS doesn't have that ability.)

    While there are plenty of FOSS/GNU softwares that can replicate some of the features of a professional program (Blender comes to mind. Easily one of my favorite 3D applications.), they're not able to fully emulate a professional-grade solution due to patent law, trademarks, and copyright restrictions.

    I'd like to see a FOSS system reach that level, but it doesn't seem like they can. Not easily. The companies will always have something the Open Source community doesn't - Money. That's probably the only thing they're lacking.
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  23. Post #3943
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    I'd like to see a FOSS system reach that level, but it doesn't seem like they can. Not easily. The companies will always have something the Open Source community doesn't - Money. That's probably the only thing they're lacking.
    To be honest, I'd rather have one developer who does a job for free than 10 who do it for pay. The code quality is usually higher, and maintenance of the code tends to last longer when people are personally involved with a project.

    That said, I don't think lack of professional software has much to do with the platform. It wouldn't be impossible for Adobe to port Photoshop to Linux if they haven't already, and it's just a matter of time before professionals escape the 80s and start to realize that Linux is a viable platform. The same will happen for games eventually (it's already beginning with Indie games) and I don't think it will take another 50 years before companies realize that Mac OS X isn't necessary to run professional software.
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  24. Post #3944
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    To be honest, I'd rather have one developer who does a job for free than 10 who do it for pay. The code quality is usually higher, and maintenance of the code tends to last longer when people are personally involved with a project.

    That said, I don't think lack of professional software has much to do with the platform. It wouldn't be impossible for Adobe to port Photoshop to Linux if they haven't already, and it's just a matter of time before professionals escape the 80s and start to realize that Linux is a viable platform. The same will happen for games eventually (it's already beginning with Indie games) and I don't think it will take another 50 years before companies realize that Mac OS X isn't necessary to run professional software.

    It would be nice if Linux gained more ground.

    Edited:









    Source: http://winunleaked.tk/2011/12/music-...tore/#more-391

    Edited:

    Looks really early and unfinished.
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  25. Post #3945
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    I could actually imagine using that on a regular basis.
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  26. Post #3946
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    I kind of hope the Metro UI gets a bit of support. It could be cool.
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  27. Post #3947
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    I kinda like the new Metro UI.

    I can really see applications like Steam benefiting from the Metro UI.
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  28. Post #3948
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    I kinda like the new Metro UI.

    I can really see applications like Steam benefiting from the Metro UI.
    Completely forgot about Steam.....

    Valve make it happen!
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  29. Post #3949
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    I kinda like the new Metro UI.

    I can really see applications like Steam benefiting from the Metro UI.
    Imagine a Minecraft Metro Edition.
    It'd be like what we have now, but fullscreen and stuff in Metro.

    Edited:

    Completely forgot about Steam.....

    Valve make it happen!
    They probably will if it is a popular requested feature.
    They went for jumplists.
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  30. Post #3950
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    Imagine a Minecraft Metro Edition.
    It'd be like what we have now, but fullscreen and stuff in Metro.

    Edited:


    They probably will if it is a popular requested feature.
    They went for jumplists.
    If the 360 controller worked with the metro UI (I never tried to see if it does or not yet), it would nice just connect it up to a HDTV, and you can just kick back on the couch without needing a keyboard/mouse. It would become more like a high end upgradable console.
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  31. Post #3951
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    If the 360 controller worked with the metro UI (I never tried to see if it does or not yet), it would nice just connect it up to a HDTV, and you can just kick back on the couch without needing a keyboard/mouse. It would become more like a high end upgradable console.
    Knowing Microsoft and their product compatibility, there'll probably be some sort of control with an Xbox remote.

    If not, it'll be hacked together in a few days.
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  32. Post #3952
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    I have a feeling Xbox 360 controller support will be up to the app's developer.
    If that is Microsoft you can probably expect support though.
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  33. Post #3953
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    I disagree, libreoffice is a perfect replacement for all of your office needs.
    Would be nice if it worked.

    Yes JRE is installed.
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  34. Post #3954
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    Completely forgot about Steam.....

    Valve make it happen!
    Isn't Concept Art a Beautiful Thing...?
    This is an old set of mockup art from a while ago, but it is still a valid request, metro-steam, and I look forward to seeing something like it...














    http://www.winsupersite.com/blog/sup...m-metro-140629
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  35. Post #3955
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    Would be nice if it worked.

    Yes JRE is installed.
    Do you have it installed for the correct arch?
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  36. Post #3956
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    Do you have it installed for the correct arch?
    Yes.
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  37. Post #3957
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    Isn't Concept Art a Beautiful Thing...?
    This is an old set of mockup art from a while ago, but it is still a valid request, metro-steam, and I look forward to seeing something like it...



    http://www.winsupersite.com/blog/sup...m-metro-140629
    Has this been sent to Valve? I'm sure they would be interested.
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  38. Post #3958
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    Would be nice if it worked.

    Yes JRE is installed.
    what the fuck? I've never had that problem.
    you sure the correct version of JRE is installed, in terms of it being 32/64 bit?
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  39. Post #3959
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    Would be nice if it worked.

    Yes JRE is installed.
    Works fine here. Blame Windows or the JRE for fucking up registry keys/settings somewhere. Android SDK does the same thing if you try to use the 64-bit SDK on Windows 7 x86-64.
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  40. Post #3960
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    what the fuck? I've never had that problem.
    you sure the correct version of JRE is installed, in terms of it being 32/64 bit?

    I installed and reinstalled both versions of java. No go.

    Edited:

    Works fine here. Blame Windows or the JRE for fucking up registry keys/settings somewhere. Android SDK does the same thing if you try to use the 64-bit SDK on Windows 7 x86-64.
    Every other Java application works. The envvars in Windows are properly set. This is the only application to toss me a JRE error.
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