1. Post #4161
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    Dr Egg's Avatar
    November 2006
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    Wait so are desktop apps still expected to look like Metro apps then? Or is that just a stopgap before it becomes a proper Metro app?
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  2. Post #4162
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    Wait so are desktop apps still expected to look like Metro apps then? Or is that just a stopgap before it becomes a proper Metro app?
    I doubt that desktop apps would be expected to look like Metro, but it'd be nice.
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  3. Post #4163
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    January 2005
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    You can use the scroll wheel, which is generally how you'd scroll through a document.

    Edited:

    http://winunleaked.tk/2012/01/window...-named-8-beta/

    Edited:

    Dev Prev
    -snip-
    Beta
    -snip-

    Edited:

    A bit late but this is neat, run Android apps on Windows 8: http://www.neowin.net/news/windows-8...via-bluestacks
    Wow, such a big step backwards (obviously only using those screenshots as reference)

    The old dashboard has a lot more info packed in one screen. This is sad. I realize it's not finished but this is the wrong direction to take.
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  4. Post #4164
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    What does the dashboard look like now?
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  5. Post #4165
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    Apparently, the old start menu has been removed entirely in Server Beta.

    Interesting.
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  6. Post #4166
    Brock Obama's Avatar
    January 2012
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    Windows Server 8 Beta screenshot leaked, build reaches 8180:

    Source: http://networkedblogs.com/sF9ZJ


    And just when I thought Microsoft was all cool, they go and pull this shit:

    "Disabling Secure [Boot] MUST NOT be possible on ARM systems."
    Source: http://www.softwarefreedom.org/blog/...ocks-down-ARM/
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  7. Post #4167
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    Windows Server 8 Beta screenshot leaked, build reaches 8180:

    Source: http://networkedblogs.com/sF9ZJ


    And just when I thought Microsoft was all cool, they go and pull this shit:

    "Disabling Secure [Boot] MUST NOT be possible on ARM systems."
    Source: http://www.softwarefreedom.org/blog/...ocks-down-ARM/
    Don't get a Windows 8 ARM tablet then.
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  8. Post #4168
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    Well, what are you expecting? Tablets, in the current consumer philosophy, have to do one thing, and one thing only: Run the OS they ship with and nothing else.

    I believed from the start that Windows 8 ARM tablets would be locked down to compete with things like the iPad and the several Android tablets that have shipped recently. It seems I was correct.

    Besides, is there even a Touch-friendly Linux with an ARM port? I can't think of one.
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  9. Post #4169
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    Look at the amount of people who complained the iPad was shit and they would rather have a real OS (aka Windows 7) on a tablet even though it wasn't great for fingers either. Finger friendliness does not stop some people.
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  10. Post #4170
    Brock Obama's Avatar
    January 2012
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    I for one, would like the full-blown OS available, with all the features a laptop provides. Running Photoshop on a tablet would be heaven. :3

    Of course it would need an x64 processor, and 4GB of RAM to be useful.
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  11. Post #4171
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    March 2007
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    I don't understand why the start button still has a black background. It looks absolutely disgusting and you'd think they fixed it by now. I don't know who is thinking "Hey, this looks good. Let's leave it this way."
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  12. Post #4172
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    I don't understand why the start button still has a black background. It looks absolutely disgusting and you'd think they fixed it by now. I don't know who is thinking "Hey, this looks good. Let's leave it this way."
    Microsoft in a nutshell.
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  13. Post #4173
    Brock Obama's Avatar
    January 2012
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    The beta should reflect what the final product will look like, but things may still change with the RC, so who knows. We might get stuck with that butt-ugly Start button, or it might get Aero. It's too early to tell, I think.
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  14. Post #4174
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    I don't understand why the start button still has a black background. It looks absolutely disgusting and you'd think they fixed it by now. I don't know who is thinking "Hey, this looks good. Let's leave it this way."
    It'll be fixed in Windows 9, like Aero was fixed in 7.
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  15. Post #4175
    Brock Obama's Avatar
    January 2012
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    It'll be fixed in Windows 9, like Aero was fixed in 7.
    At first it made me laugh, until I realized how true it was.
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  16. Post #4176
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    Don't get a Windows 8 ARM tablet then.
    I wish there was just ONE tablet that would let me customize it how I want. Whats wrong with letting me buy a tablet and then letting me install android on it, and then if I don't like it, easily re install Windows? Just like on a laptop.

    Edited:

    Besides, is there even a Touch-friendly Linux with an ARM port? I can't think of one.
    Uhhh... A.. Android?

    Edited:

    I for one, would like the full-blown OS available, with all the features a laptop provides. Running Photoshop on a tablet would be heaven. :3

    Of course it would need an x64 processor, and 4GB of RAM to be useful.
    But tablets like this already exist. They may not have a good cpu or tons of ram, but they do exist. Problem is no one buys them.
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  17. Post #4177
    Brock Obama's Avatar
    January 2012
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    But tablets like this already exist. They may not have a good cpu or tons of ram, but they do exist. Problem is no one buys them.
    I would, but they never have any to purchase. I've never seen x86 tablets on the market. And by "on the market", I mean in local and chain stores, like BestBuy, Apple, Fred Meyer, Walmart, etc. ARM processors are just not powerful enough to do anything I need them to.
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  18. Post #4178
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    I wish there was just ONE tablet that would let me customize it how I want. Whats wrong with letting me buy a tablet and then letting me install android on it, and then if I don't like it, easily re install Windows? Just like on a laptop.

    Edited:



    Uhhh... A.. Android?

    Edited:



    But tablets like this already exist. They may not have a good cpu or tons of ram, but they do exist. Problem is no one buys them.
    Get an Android tablet or an x86 tablet.
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    Besides, is there even a Touch-friendly Linux with an ARM port? I can't think of one.
    Android, HP webOS, Angstrom, Ubuntu
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  20. Post #4180
    Brock Obama's Avatar
    January 2012
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    Get an Android tablet or an x86 tablet.
    I can't find x86 tablets for sale that don't come with gimmicks like a dockable keyboard.
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  21. Post #4181
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    I can't find x86 tablets for sale that don't come with gimmicks like a dockable keyboard.
    Hardly a gimmick, a dockable keyboard actually has a purpose. To dock your device to something better suited for lengthy work rather than using a touch screen to type your essay like a fool.
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  22. Post #4182
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    Or...you could type your essay on a laptop?
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  23. Post #4183
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    What if you don't have a laptop. Or you used your tablet as an all-purpose device saving you money from buying a tablet AND a laptop.
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  24. Post #4184
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    What if you don't have a laptop. Or you used your tablet as an all-purpose device saving you money from buying a tablet AND a laptop.
    I guess I'd get a laptop first.
    Actually that is kind of what I did, except instead of a tablet I got a Samsung Galaxy Player. I guess I don't really see tablets as some kind of productivity tool though.
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  25. Post #4185
    Brock Obama's Avatar
    January 2012
    412 Posts
    I guess I'd get a laptop first.
    Actually that is kind of what I did, except instead of a tablet I got a Samsung Galaxy Player. I guess I don't really see tablets as some kind of productivity tool though.
    Me either. Tablets are just expensive toys for adults.
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  26. Post #4186
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    September 2010
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    Get an Android tablet
    Most android tablets are still locked. You need to root them to be able to flash other android images to them. And even then installing some other os is hard.

    or an x86 tablet.
    Why can't there be a customizable ARM tablet? It's a good architecture, why do companies lock it up so much.
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  27. Post #4187
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    Most android tablets are still locked. You need to root them to be able to flash other android images to them. And even then installing some other os is hard.



    Why can't there be a customizable ARM tablet? It's a good architecture, why do companies lock it up so much.
    Care more about profits than anything else.
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  28. Post #4188
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    Dennab
    May 2010
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    Care more about profits than anything else.
    Ironic because devices which get modified sell more.
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  29. Post #4189
    I hope Windows Backup gets fixed in 8.

    Apparently, if you lock your computer and you're backing up to an external drive, the backup fails with an "Access Denied" message.

    However, if you let the computer lock itself, it backs up just fine.

    Just how does something like this fuck up?
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  30. Post #4190
    Brock Obama's Avatar
    January 2012
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    I hope Windows Backup gets fixed in 8.

    Apparently, if you lock your computer and you're backing up to an external drive, the backup fails with an "Access Denied" message.

    However, if you let the computer lock itself, it backs up just fine.

    Just how does something like this fuck up?
    I use Redo: Backup & Restore for all my backup needs. Ironically, it's a Linux distro that runs from a bootable USB. :)
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  31. Post #4191
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    November 2009
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    I use Redo: Backup & Restore for all my backup needs. Ironically, it's a Linux distro that runs from a bootable USB. :)
    Best way to backup things, since it can modify folders and files you can't normally change during the RTE.

    Smart.
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  32. Post #4192
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    It'll be fixed in Windows 9, like Aero was fixed in 7.
    In my opinion Aero was a lot more consistent in Vista. In 7 there's an occasional blue/green gradient leftover from Vista, along with some really ugly blue/light blue gradients slapped over their old counterparts (I'm looking at YOU, Welcome Center).

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  33. Post #4193
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    Who actually uses the Welcome Center?
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  34. Post #4194
    Brock Obama's Avatar
    January 2012
    412 Posts
    Who actually uses the Welcome Center?
    Old people? No idea really.
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  35. Post #4195
    I use it long enough to uncheck the "Show at Startup" box.

    Well, that and since there's a shortcut to UAC I use that to turn that shit off.

    UAC annoys the living piss out of me.
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  36. Post #4196
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    I use it long enough to uncheck the "Show at Startup" box.

    Well, that and since there's a shortcut to UAC I use that to turn that shit off.

    UAC annoys the living piss out of me.
    I thought they turned off the automatic Welcome Center in Windows 7. I've never had it showing at startup.
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  37. Post #4197
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    I use it long enough to uncheck the "Show at Startup" box.

    Well, that and since there's a shortcut to UAC I use that to turn that shit off.

    UAC annoys the living piss out of me.
    I always clicked on the user picture in the start menu and changed it from there.
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  38. Post #4198
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    Dennab
    May 2005
    2,146 Posts
    Nostalgia nayone?


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  39. Post #4199
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    August 2006
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    Ironic because devices which get modified sell more.
    Microsoft doesn't have a good track record with getting stuff right, right away.
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  40. Post #4200
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    November 2007
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    Why do I have a strong feeling that Windows 8 for ARM will flop considering recent news
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