1. Post #241
    RISC MASTER RACE.
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    August 2010
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    You good with a soldering iron repo?
    All the pins for VGA are present on an Indy. You just have to make the bulkhead using a shitty old video card and ribbon cable.






    Related to graphics, I have a mystery on my hands!

    It appears to be part of (hopefully all of) a framebuffer (the term "video card" had not yet been created) for a Unibus system. No information about it or the manufacturer "Dynamic Digital Displays" exists on the net.





    Edit: Last month I also had to make a little jumper module for the office Osborne. It was missing and because of that we could not use the internal screen until now.





    EDIT:
    Also, here's a tease for something that's coming soon:

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  2. Post #242
    Dennab
    October 2007
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    My soundblaster 16 has exactly the same expansion ports on the side.
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  3. Post #243
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    My soundblaster 16 has exactly the same expansion ports on the side.
    AFAIK those ports on your SB16 card is for CD-rom drives.
    Yeah your soundcard has a ATAPI controller on-board.
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  4. Post #244
    Dennab
    October 2007
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    AFAIK those ports on your SB16 card is for CD-rom drives.
    Yeah your soundcard has a ATAPI controller on-board.
    Good to know, my Gateway has been sitting outside with all the plastics stripped off it imersed in some retrobrite. The thing looks just like it did on the day it was bought in 1998.

    Edited:

    Now to find some cream spraypaint to fix up the scratches in the metalwork.
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  5. Post #245
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    Unfortunately, I couldn't get my hands on my school's old P.E.T. 4032, so the oldest computer I own is a mid-end custom build from 2002.

    However, I have a Commodore SR 9190 Scientific Calculator that is, at my best guess, from 1977. While not being able to do fractions, it can do metric-imperial conversions, something I know my current TI calculator can't do.

    My old school had some interesting shit though, already mentioned was the P.E.T. 4032, but it also had a Macintosh 512K (unfortunately, the floppy drive was broken, and we didn't have any System disks), an Amiga 500 (unfortunately, we didn't have Kickstart or AmigaOS floppies either, and it was missing the power adapter), and at least 20 Amiga monitors, because my school used to run on Amiga. I find it kinda sad, though, that they used to run on Amiga, yet only have one left, and don't even have a power cable for it. Of the 3 old computers they had, we confirmed 2 turn on, the P.E.T. and the Mac, but we only really got to "use" the P.E.T., and that was still a very cool experience for me, being able to use a computer older than my teacher at the time.
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  6. Post #246
    Dennab
    October 2007
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    Unfortunately, I couldn't get my hands on my school's old P.E.T. 4032, so the oldest computer I own is a mid-end custom build from 2002.

    However, I have a Commodore SR 9190 Scientific Calculator that is, at my best guess, from 1977. While not being able to do fractions, it can do metric-imperial conversions, something I know my current TI calculator can't do.

    My old school had some interesting shit though, already mentioned was the P.E.T. 4032, but it also had a Macintosh 512K (unfortunately, the floppy drive was broken, and we didn't have any System disks), an Amiga 500 (unfortunately, we didn't have Kickstart or AmigaOS floppies either, and it was missing the power adapter), and at least 20 Amiga monitors, because my school used to run on Amiga. I find it kinda sad, though, that they used to run on Amiga, yet only have one left, and don't even have a power cable for it. Of the 3 old computers they had, we confirmed 2 turn on, the P.E.T. and the Mac, but we only really got to "use" the P.E.T., and that was still a very cool experience for me, being able to use a computer older than my teacher at the time.
    Now that's awesome, I'm used to schools using old Acorn Archemedes gear. The A500 doesn't require a kickstart, just bung a disk in and watch it load.
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  7. Post #247
    RISC MASTER RACE.
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    The early compact macs have an issue where the lube in them has dried out and become sticky which jams the drive. The only way to fix this is to take the drive apart and clean and regrease the joints without knocking the head out of alignment.
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  8. Post #248
    Mr. Massacre's Avatar
    April 2010
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    Didn't know there was a Retrocomputing thread!
    Well, let me fire up my IBM PS/2 p70 (80386, 4MB RAM)...




    It's a shame it's floppy drive has conked out and i don't have a replacement, i have a set of OS/2 2.0 floppies that would probably work great with it.

    Perhaps i'll have to get some shots of my Seequa Chameleon later.
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  9. Post #249
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    I'm a casual fan of old computers but I'm mostly here for the music (and demos)

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  10. Post #250
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    I also have an old Atari 2600 gaming console at my grandparent's right now. I have THE ORIGINAL GODDAMN PITFALL! for it too, as well as Donkey Kong and River Raiders. One of the controllers was a bit borked, but the other worked perfectly. The biggest issue for it is getting the antenna-to-cable adapter to work properly, as the cable jack on their old TV lacks sufficient grip, it leads to me jiggling it a fair bit.

    I really want an old C64, but my parents think I've got too many computers already, and see no merit to "old, useless crap" like a Commodore. I'm also interested in some of Commodore's new stuff and seeing where they go with the new series of Amiga.

    Yes, that's right, for those of you who didn't know, Commodore is BACK!
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  11. Post #251
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    April 2010
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    Anyone have One of these? Is it as awesome as the idea of having a pocket-size PC-XT makes it sound?
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  12. Post #252
    chipset's Avatar
    November 2010
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    Didn't know there was a Retrocomputing thread!
    Well, let me fire up my IBM PS/2 p70 (80386, 4MB RAM)...




    It's a shame it's floppy drive has conked out and i don't have a replacement, i have a set of OS/2 2.0 floppies that would probably work great with it.

    Perhaps i'll have to get some shots of my Seequa Chameleon later.
    Is that the computer Dade uses in Hackers?
    Sure looks like it. If it is, you owe it to yourself to give it a camo paint job.

    Edited:

    Wait it's too old nevermind.
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  13. Post #253
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    August 2009
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    Didn't know there was a Retrocomputing thread!
    Well, let me fire up my IBM PS/2 p70 (80386, 4MB RAM)...




    It's a shame it's floppy drive has conked out and i don't have a replacement, i have a set of OS/2 2.0 floppies that would probably work great with it.

    Perhaps i'll have to get some shots of my Seequa Chameleon later.
    I found one of those once at a guy's yard sale.

    But it didn't have a fucking hard drive. And the only version of DOS i had was the one from Win98's boot floppy.
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  14. Post #254
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    The P70 like all of the PS/2 systems uses a proprietary floppy drive which dies a lot. Some people have revived theirs with a good head cleaning and others have been required the recap the board on the drive.
    I have a Model 80 which is just as ill because the floppy drive is bonk.
    I'm not sure if OS/2 2 worked on monochrome systems. I do recall though it does need a mouse.

    I'm surprised how hard it is to find ZX Spectrum systems. I thought they were the second most common computer in the EU next to the BBC Micro?
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  15. Post #255
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    The P70 like all of the PS/2 systems uses a proprietary floppy drive which dies a lot. Some people have revived theirs with a good head cleaning and others have been required the recap the board on the drive.
    I have a Model 80 which is just as ill because the floppy drive is bonk.
    I'm not sure if OS/2 2 worked on monochrome systems. I do recall though it does need a mouse.

    I'm surprised how hard it is to find ZX Spectrum systems. I thought they were the second most common computer in the EU next to the BBC Micro?
    I really don't like the ZX Spectrum. Why does everything have to be cassettes and why are the colors so bad?

    You see, i am much more fond of the C64 and the MSX.
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  16. Post #256
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    July 2010
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    might as well say this:

    loot from the electronics graveyard in my shed that was left by my dad and now we're going through it to see what works!
    we have a lot of x86 architecture computers ranging from a 486 (bricked mind you) and a PIII. i think one of them even has a pentium 166 in there

    after we go through all the shit and assemble some frankencomputers i will post pictures of what we come up with working

    Edited:

    also the 486 had a mouse in it

    Edited:

    like one of the squeak alive ones that get eaten by cats

    Edited:

    it did get eaten by a cat

    Edited:

    it was awesome
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  17. Post #257
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    July 2009
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    Oh god this stuff makes me want an open source portable computer so i can program on it and have fun on it like the openpandora more. :buddy:, thread?

    Edited:

    Your voice on youtube sounds like Notch with an optimistic accentless accent
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  18. Post #258
    Dennab
    October 2007
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    I'm surprised how hard it is to find ZX Spectrum systems. I thought they were the second most common computer in the EU next to the BBC Micro?
    I used to have a spectrum +2, but the sound was dodgy and I only had dan dare for it.
    I'm keeping an eye out for an orginal spectrum and a BBC Master System.
    If I ever find myself with a surplus of spectrums I will let you know, because if I see them, I just buy them straight away.
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  19. Post #259
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    June 2005
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    I have a VIC-20 in witch have a whopping 3,5 KB of ram!! and a C64 with floppy drive and a cassette station.
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  20. Post #260
    bye
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    I found these dope old computers when I was exploring a building, I have some more photos, but I will need to upload them



    of the 3 units, the leftmost one appears to a pre-dlt tape backup unit and the other two appear to be a network device (the large interface cables going back to large unusual patch panels)

    it was labelled 'Nixdorf 8818' (from and it appeared to be a pre-ethernet proprietary IDSN networking device. in the implementation I saw it in it appears to have interfaced with an ERP / POS system.

    they have these huge interface cards and power supplies which are all modular, and the keyboards had physical security for different levels of configuration (the keyboard in the centre of the photo labelled 'master' has 4 keys plugged in). There are keys that go into the keyboard and I don't think you can do high level configs without all 4 keys. I think instead of passwords this device used physical security. There are still some businesses out there using this stuff, no doubt tied to it by a large amount of preexisting infrastructure. The stuff I found was in use in about 2003 when it was replaced by ethernet technology. I found some bits and pieces for quite a bit of money around on the net but it looks like they're aimed at businesses still stuck using them.

    german wikipedia had some details about them and images of one I didn't see:

    wiki.de posted:
    The main technical components of the Nixdorf 820 system (built 1968) was a 12-bit parallel processing unit, a read-only memory for user programs, a fully programmable, magnetic core memory , an alphanumeric / numeric function keyboard , a serial printer for data output, a punched card reader , paper tape reader and paper tape reader.
    Three phases of product development - billing machine , magnetic computer accounts and terminal systems - can be identified. The system appeared from 1967 to 1979 and was in various models sold more than 40,000 times.

    fuck yeah

    there's some more cool stuff on the museum website too, worth checking if you dig this type of thing
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  21. Post #261
    Dennab
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    I don't suppose there was any power on to actually try and boot it up?
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  22. Post #262
    bye
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    nah, there wasn't even lights :(

    photo taken in total darkness lit by torches
    you cans see the reflection in the window
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  23. Post #263
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    nah, there wasn't even lights :(

    photo taken in total darkness lit by torches
    you cans see the reflection in the window
    How is it legal to be in a building like that? I'm just curious.
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  24. Post #264
    Dennab
    November 2010
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    How is it legal to be in a building like that? I'm just curious.
    The most the police can do is ask you to leave, tresspassing isn't a crime. As long as you didnt break your way in or cause damage your fine
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  25. Post #265
    bye
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    How is it legal to be in a building like that? I'm just curious.
    it's not
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  26. Post #266
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    How is it legal to be in a building like that? I'm just curious.
    It's not, but most people turn blind eyes for a hobby known as "urbex," where people essentially break in to abandoned buildings to get pics and explore. Some of the shit you can see/find in them are pretty awesome sometimes.
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  27. Post #267
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    *siemens gear*
    You don't see shit like that often. With scrap prices so high now the junkies and homeless would of stripped every piece of gold and copper off that in an instant. I know UrbEX places around here where you can see they have even ripped out the drywall to steal the ROMEX cable and plumbing.
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  28. Post #268
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    Video of the 3 computers we found at my school. Yes, it's the Mac causing all the racket, I think it was the floppy drive.
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  29. Post #269
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    Video of the 3 computers we found at my school. Yes, it's the Mac causing all the racket, I think it was the floppy drive.
    My school has the exact same Dells, woah.
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  30. Post #270
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    My school has the exact same Dells, woah.
    Most school boards have a hard-on for Dells, something about warranties and school board contracts. I find most school boards either have Dell, Lenovo (formerly IBM), or Apple computers and they tend to only buy that brand.
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  31. Post #271
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    Most school boards have a hard-on for Dells, something about warranties and school board contracts. I find most school boards either have Dell, Lenovo (formerly IBM), or Apple computers and they tend to only buy that brand.
    my school has a mix of what seems to be old ass macs, old ass unbranded pcs, and slightly new ass macs and a small elite collection of new ass pcs

    Edited:

    from a local prebuilt company
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  32. Post #272
    Dennab
    November 2010
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    Video of the 3 computers we found at my school. Yes, it's the Mac causing all the racket, I think it was the floppy drive.
    Oh by the way, there is a command for the PET to control the tape drive motor direction, You can write a program which alternates the motor direction until the transformer blows out in it
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  33. Post #273
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    November 2010
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    Oh by the way, there is a command for the PET to control the tape drive motor direction, You can write a program which alternates the motor direction until the transformer blows out in it
    My life is now complete with this knowledge in my head.
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  34. Post #274
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    I still have my old Packard Bell with Windows 3.1

    I still play Space quest, King's quest, and some other games on it from time to time.
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  35. Post #275
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    Do old DOS games count as content for this thread? I got Wing Commander IV and Wings of Glory from a local Goodwill a few days ago, yeah. Having fun with them in DOSBox.

    Also, proud Model M user here.
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  36. Post #276
    Dennab
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    Do old DOS games count as content for this thread? I got Wing Commander IV and Wings of Glory from a local Goodwill a few days ago, yeah. Having fun with them in DOSBox.

    Also, proud Model M user here.
    Yeah, they count. I've just dug out my quickshot joystick to play Elite III on DOS.
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  37. Post #277
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    I still have my old Packard Bell with Windows 3.1

    I still play Space quest, King's quest, and some other games on it from time to time.
    For another Sierra adventure game, i recommend Leisure Suit Larry.
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  38. Post #278
    bye
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    photos promised earlier







    if you look behind the chair, imagine a world where each surveliance camera has its own massive interface card.

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  39. Post #279

    April 2010
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    wow

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    this is gonna be my new desktop background
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  40. Post #280
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    Did someone say my name?




    Is NEXTSTEP as big and clunky as I've heard it is? I heard its also expensive
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