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I'm a holy paladin healer. I don't know if I'm not stacking enough intellect or what, but it seems like ever since 84, I've been running out of mana if I've been healing enough to keep tanks afloat. I've been using the holy power spells and cooldowns, but it seems like it's always right on edge. Is there something wrong that I'm doing?
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Intellect only gives you a bigger mana pool, which is nice, but it's spirit you'll want if you wanna last longer in longer fights.
Spirit gives you Mp5.
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Yeah, the mana costs jump up around 84/85 to fit to the Cataclysm healer model, Spirit is now a mana regen stat, you should be carefully monitoring the mana cost of spells and what you're casting
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It always was a mana regen stat. v
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A good thing to remember about healing is that you're still doing your job if somebody is alive. It's okay to be down towards 10% or 20%, just know when the damage is coming.
Think of overhealing as a waste of mana. If you heal a tank for 12000 but he's only missing 2400, you're only using 20% of the mana cost you used to get that heal out.
Get a little bit more spirit, and learn to feel around the damage mechanics of boss fights.
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Blizzard decided to make healers have to watch their mana. This weeds out the baddies from the people who know what they're doing.
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lol you're running out of mana as a holy pally
try playing a priest scrub
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Yeah, people were yelling at me, and I was trying to explain why I couldn't keep everyone at 100% at all times. I get comments like "im sorry but i shouldn be clenching my buttcheeks on a normal," and other stuff like that. Blizzard has made being a healer a socially awkward experience.
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Being a healer was always socially awkward. You get blamed for everything. Except for aggro.
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don't get your panties in a twist just because blizz hates priests
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seriously though, read the holy pally thread on elitistjerks, learn more about the changes and learn which spells to use when so you can heal effectively
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Pretty much. The only few times I've had trouble healing a tank and people have said it's his fault is usually when I have more HP than he does.
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But it was horrible for holy paladins in Wrath.It always was a mana regen stat. vv
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i ran out of mana pretty fast healing my dungeons while leveling +80 and the first heroics
im a druid though so i utilized all my cc's and thing and basically drank only before each boss
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it was a health regen stat for tanks very first vIt always was a mana regen stat. vvv
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yeah rightit was a health regen stat for tanks very first vv
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and intellect also used to make you skill-up your weapons faster
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I stacked the shit out of Intel when I was leveling my rogue. Top DPS every time.
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first then i did when making an alt was run to the nearest city, get some money from my main, then buy all the weapon trainings for my class
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all your "cc's"? do you even know what that means
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i don't know if it is this way for paladins, i know it is for priests and druids though so go figure. all the shit below is about priests and druids.
in my experience of the new cata healing shit, there's usually 2 main healing spells, a few HoTs you want to keep up and a few extra abilities.
you'll have 2 main healing spells, both have same cast time but vary on mana and healing done, for example noursh/heal, not much mana but doesn't heal an awful lot, greater heal/healing touch, uses a lot of mana and heals for a reasonable amount. in terms of tank healing, the low mana low healing spells are generally intended to be cast pretty much all the time (as shown by talents, DISC priest specs for heal to reduce weakened soul duration, druids nourish to keep lifebloom rolling), the more expensive heals being intended for heavier damage phases. they also usually have a more expensive oh shit button (regrowth and flash heal, heals something in between the cheap and expensive heals for a high mana cost but short cast time).
i don't know if you can draw any similarities to holy pala healing but generally, make sure you are by default using your lower mana lower healing spell to keep everyone topped off, feeling free to use your bigger healing more expensive spell on intervals when there's more damage, using cooldowns as necessary. healing is a lot less snappy than it used to be so it's a lot less down to speed and more about spell choices and in return mana management. in wrath a lot of it was down to snappy heals etc, it's now a lot more about knowing what spell you should cast in your current situation. i'm not great at explaining things.
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honestly if you have a half decent group and some CC no one should be taking too much damage
use holy shock when it's up and spam holy light, those 2 combined with a 3 HP WoG is enough for 90% of the crap in heroics
holy light procs daybreak giving you 2 holy shocks in a row, and holy shock procs whatever it's called that makes your next holy light or divine light a much shorter cast, and both of them proc A LOT
right there you have a crapload of heals going out for a decently low mana cost, and each holy shock gives you 1 HP so pop a WoG whenever you have 3 HP
oh and make sure you're using Seal of Insight and spamming judgement as possible, if you have to target the person you wanna heal then you're doing it wrong. personally i also like to autoattack whatever target my tank is attacking if he's not taking a bunch of damage at the time
if you're having mana problems past that then there's either 3 things wrong:
A: you're bad and you don't know how to play your class
B: your tank is bad and is wearing cloth
C: your DPS keeps standing in crap
it's only one of the 3 so just choose what it is, find a fix, and move on
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I was playing my new 85 priest and just got the gear to do HC's, got stonecore I couldn't heal past the first boss.
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um why
on slabhide only the tank should be taking any damage, on the big dude everyone only takes a little damage, and on the last chick once again pretty much only the tank should be taking damage
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there's a lot of it. roots, hibernate, cyclone. cyclone not so often, but roots and hibernate everytime i get the chance. helps me to get through with healing with much more ease believe me
also dots, 3x FF and free wrath casts!
and the way i heal is basically; 3x lifebloom and reju. also regrowth for fast directheal+hot, then swiftmend for fast direct heals too and the effloresence+wildgrowth for even better aoe heal
nourish and healingtouch.. i hardly ever cast those. sometimes NS+HT but NS is useful for maybe roots/hibernate at a times, not really strong talent anyway.
lifebloom is so cheap spell you don't need nourish to keep it rolling. usually i let it bloom too, same time with swiftmend it heals a bunch. also i dont seem to go oom by "spamming" lifebloom. and this all is solo healing in hc dungeons, in raids it'll be even easier with more healers.
healed baradin hold 10man with a pala healer, no problems at all if it even counts lol
if i were a paladin i would use repentance in every pull and just cast flash of lights or holy lights dunno how it goes for paladins.. anyway
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lifebloomx3 + nourish is your main heal.
Nourish replenishes lifebloom and gives you replenishment. You only ever need your other heals if you're putting a quick rejuvenation on DPS or in big fights where tank or everyone is taking more damage.
Also, repentance is a retribution talent.
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Keyword is "should" in your sentence.
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well casting lifebloom gives replenishment afaik and lifebloom is a very cheap spell anyway don't really matter if you let it bloom unless in a situation where tank takes a lot of dmg and your hots just expired
also wtf rejuvenation is like the best healing there is, i keep it on tank all the time, and you can give it to all group members when aoe is coming. also tree of life + keep lifeblooms on multiple people if needed!
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Nourish is a better way to keep lifebloom going because the extra healing, since it's only slightly more mana expensive than lifebloom. You also have the benefit of your mastery in that.
Also, you don't need rejuvenation for anything but big fights. It's not worth putting on if lifebloom+nourish is doing fine.
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Every group I've ever been in for stonecore has failed to get past corboros. Every single one.
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Wrath babies?
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I don't get whats supposedly so hard about the Stonecore it's really easy.
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I'm having trouble healing on my druid. :/ I dont really have mana issues but it feels like my heals just don't cut it. Unless I spam regrowth, but then I get mana issues. I keep up Lifebloom AND Rejuvenation on the tank at all times but they still drop way to fast most of the times. Either they aren't using their damage reduction skills or I'm to weak.
http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/characte...ls/mugi/simple
I've only managed to heal through 2 heroics, but then the group knew the fuck they were doing and could take one or two wipes.
I'm pretty new to healing so it might just be inexperience but I use almost every button I have ffs.
Sorry to hijack your thread OP but your question has already been answered. Moar spirit.
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Why do you have glyph of healing touch when you don't have Nature's Swiftness?
Apart from that, keep a few things in mind: In HCs, you will need to CC on larger pulls. Your tank also has to be good and the focus of your intelligence. Keep lifebloom and nourish rolling and only pop rejuvenation on bigger pulls, followed by a swiftmend (since rejuvenate on it's own doesn't kick in as fast). You should only really need to use regrowth on boss fights. Also, you can switch out Nourish with Healing Touch if the tank is taking more damage, since they both keep lifebloom rolling.
The only other thing I can think of is gear.
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It's dodgy untill you're well geared 85
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I used to have Nature's Swiftness but I rarely used it.
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i cant believe you are saying that.. omg.
also; mastery?
i would never get mastery on my druid. all i want is stamina, stamina and stamina + haste and spellpower(int). maybe some spellpene too
you are not a true druid
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Most tanks benefit greatly from Mastery. Not sure it's true of druids but it wouldn't surprise me.
so yes, if druid tanks get use from mastery, true druids use mastery.
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he was talking about healing.. as far as i can tell, mastery adds power to direct heals for resto druids, as in, healing touch, nourish etc on hotted targets. I say, fuck that
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when did i say to stack masteryi cant believe you are saying that.. omg.
also; mastery?
i would never get mastery on my druid. all i want is stamina, stamina and stamina + haste and spellpower(int). maybe some spellpene too
you are not a true druid
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are you dumb
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From what I've read it's quite viable if you're a tank-healer.
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