[Checkers]

Why do hordes of 12 year old boys want to learn guitar and not the violin?

[Franke_R!?]

Checkers posted:

Why do hordes of 12 year old boys want to learn guitar and not the violin?

Because the violin is too badass for them.

[Knorre]

Checkers posted:

Why do hordes of 12 year old boys want to learn guitar and not the violin?

It's all about image.

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ninjas

[Monty Pie-thon]

I cello-tape horse hair to my fingers and shred the violin.

Haha, get it? Cello-tape.

Oh fuck you.

[Camp er Joe]

Checkers posted:

Why do hordes of 12 year old boys want to learn guitar and not the violin?

Are you shitting me? Maybe because it's about preference?

[absinthe]

Checkers posted:

Why do hordes of 12 year old boys want to learn guitar and not the violin?

because classical music is for old people

[gerbile5]

the chipped nut on my guitar will just sound off until i get it fixed it? i dont care about sound at the moment since i don't have an amp to play with and am just trying to get feeling before i sink money into the hobby.
the string isnt gonna like come off and kill me right

[Xenocidebot]

LasGunz posted:

I like and dislike local shops. Making relationships with the owners and workers in small shops is excellent and generally they'll do you a deal if you're a valued and regular customer, sometimes I just drop in to talk about guitars and gear or show off whatever new gear I've got but I dislike them because generally they have one of everything and can only get the rest on special order (unless it's accessories like strings and shit) and they're sometimes more pricey than franchise stores because they need to make a profit to sustain themselves. Though I have found some great deals in my local shop too so it depends.

I have the misfortune of being in a small market for music stores in general, so my general small-store options are:
-An education-centric store that's only an authorized Ibanez dealer and which I know ripped off a friend of mine in the past, but that said it was when they carried cheap Peavey/Dean shit and seem to have let somebody go
-A college town store that has a boner for acoustic shit and nothing else
-A rental place for highschool students that manages to lag like fuck on certain orders and be amazingly skilled on others (like repairing a Jackson somebody found in a dumpster)
And my franchise option is a Guitar Center staffed by well-meaning folks but with a couple complete morons.

Pricewise they're all the same (more or less level with the internet) and even at GC fairly straight talkers, they've just all got something wrong with them.

Franke_R!? posted:

Because the violin is too badass for them.

Violin is for posers.
Real men play double bass.

[gerbile5]

the guitar center i go to in nashua new hampshire is stocked with excellent associates i think. i actually go there and buy stuff from them because i know i am giving them a commission

[LasGunz]

My local "franchise" guitar shop recently had Zakk Wylde in, it was mostly a meet & greet and promotion but they always do Clinics and shit too.

[Banned?]

I only go to my local shop because they're cool dudes, talk to you straight, and I take lessons there. They have a big sale every quarter where they mark down stuff super hard. If you buy a guitar from them you get repairs and string replacement for free, bar expenses for new parts.

[eventual0]

Here, in norway there are only small buisnesses, if having like 6-8 shops in the whole country counts, although most of the guys working in the shops are usually not very educated about audio, like amps, pedals,headphones and the like.
But knows everything about the band they love. I dont care what band you like i want to know if this amp will be worth my money. Plus side is that you can haggle, and they are very easy pushovers, like the price for some metal strings for my acoutic cost me about 15 bucks i haggled it down to 10.

By the way, should i start looking for another band... My current one has like me and our leadguitarist who are musically talented, but he has resently gotten himself a girlfriend and whenever we practice he's home with his GF, and the rest basicly suck at any rythyms and cant play for shit.. Maybe i should put up a flyer at the local shop and online.. see if i get any good positions. and also i play bass, guitar and drums..so i can fill any position in a normal Bass-guitar-drum band.

[Unreliable]

Checkers posted:

Why do hordes of 12 year old boys want to learn guitar and not the violin?

Representing four years in orchestra bitches.
I'm in varsity now.

[Kingy_why]

eventual0 posted:

Here, in norway there are only small buisnesses, if having like 6-8 shops in the whole country counts, although most of the guys working in the shops are usually not very educated about audio, like amps, pedals,headphones and the like.
But knows everything about the band they love. I dont care what band you like i want to know if this amp will be worth my money. Plus side is that you can haggle, and they are very easy pushovers, like the price for some metal strings for my acoutic cost me about 15 bucks i haggled it down to 10.

By the way, should i start looking for another band... My current one has like me and our leadguitarist who are musically talented, but he has resently gotten himself a girlfriend and whenever we practice he's home with his GF, and the rest basicly suck at any rythyms and cant play for shit.. Maybe i should put up a flyer at the local shop and online.. see if i get any good positions. and also i play bass, guitar and drums..so i can fill any position in a normal Bass-guitar-drum band.

Can your lead guitarist play bass? If so, then you should go on drums, he should go on bass and you can easily find a good guitarist or two.

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Checkers posted:

Why do hordes of 12 year old boys want to learn guitar and not the violin?

My friend is going from guitar (which he started playing at 12) to violin.

[dirty harry]

LasGunz posted:

Not sure what I want to do with the finish on the guitar I'm building.

Option 1
The body I'm using is a polyurethane finish on it but it has a nice sunburst paintjob.. I want to relic the guitar somewhat but Poly is a cunt and a half to relic because it's nearly bulletproof.. so I can sand some parts of it and make it look kind of relic'd

Option 2
I completely sand down the body and then put a white finish on, slightly relic that and then put a red finish on it and then do the full relic on that so what you get is the red finish with white parts showing through the chipped and worn parts providing a cool 'vintage' custom guitar look.. then I would coat it with Nitrocellulose to give it a better more "naturally aging" finish.

For reference:
Polyurethane - thick yucky plastic that coats 99% of guitars made in the past few decades, it's indestructable really
Nitrocellulose - it's purpose was mostly to stop paint falling off guitars not "protect" them, so they wore out and "aged" better which provided some cool vintage looks after the guitar had been a few years old

The reason I don't jump for the obvious better choice (option 2) is because i really wanted a sunburst strat.. but i'm not attemping a sunburst for my first build and paintjob.

Might want to take a look at this
http://www.mylespaul.com/forums/epip...pic-heavy.html

[-Xemit-]

Checkers posted:

Why do hordes of 12 year old boys want to learn guitar and not the violin?

I actually know a 12 year old guy that plays the violin.

[Reset Panda]

I got the MT2 and the GE7 for my birthday :colbert:

Going to buy the 3 pedal fitting boss pedalboard and probably get another pedal.

[LasGunz]

dirty harry posted:

Might want to take a look at this
http://www.mylespaul.com/forums/epip...pic-heavy.html

That's really nothing like I'm wanting to do.

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[JonniXD]

Here's my poor mans rig:

A Stagg F300, Flying V replica.


An Ibanez GRG170DX.


A Zoom G1XN pedal.


And my Line 6 Spider III amp.

[LasGunz]

Ibanez into a Zoom pedal and Line6 amp oh no

(note: not bashing Ibanez but they generally attract a certain kind of guitarist/genre)
(double note: as for zoom and line6... eugh. line6 have a cool reverb pedal that's about it)

[Franke_R!?]

LasGunz posted:

Ibanez into a Zoom pedal and Line6 amp oh no

(note: not bashing Ibanez but they generally attract a certain kind of guitarist/genre)
(double note: as for zoom and line6... eugh. line6 have a cool reverb pedal that's about it)

I play funk and classical on my Ibanez bass :smug:   And all kinds of metal.   

[TheGuru]

LasGunz posted:

Ibanez into a Zoom pedal and Line6 amp oh no

(note: not bashing Ibanez but they generally attract a certain kind of guitarist/genre)
(double note: as for zoom and line6... eugh. line6 have a cool reverb pedal that's about it)

So I guess you would be surprised if I told you that I use my Ibanez 7 string for clean/jazz stuff more than metal?

How about that I use my Strat more for metal?

It's true :smug:

[Nonikai]

JonniXD posted:

Here's my poor mans rig:

A Stagg F300, Flying V replica.


An Ibanez GRG170DX.


A Zoom G1XN pedal.


And my Line 6 Spider III amp.

Wanna buy my Dean?

You just have to come to neskaupstaður to pick it up hehehe!

[gerbile5]

LasGunz posted:

Ibanez into a Zoom pedal and Line6 amp oh no

(note: not bashing Ibanez but they generally attract a certain kind of guitarist/genre)
(double note: as for zoom and line6... eugh. line6 have a cool reverb pedal that's about it)

im p sure line 6 spyder is fine for people who just want to play in their house for fun\beginners

[dirty harry]

LasGunz posted:

That's really nothing like I'm wanting to do.

I thought you wanted to wear down the poly finish so you could 'relic' it, wouldn't that be the place to start?

[Dopey Trout]

gerbile5 posted:

im p sure line 6 is fine for people who just want to play in their house for fun\beginners

Bang on correct

[LasGunz]

dirty harry posted:

I thought you wanted to wear down the poly finish so you could 'relic' it, wouldn't that be the place to start?

"duling" the poly finish doesn't remove the poly finish.. removing the poly finish removes the guitars paint so it's near impossible. i'm silly to think i can achieve the look i want with a poly guitar. i'm just going sand off the finish and refinish with a vintage/viesta red over a relic'd white finish. gold hardware and fender lace sensor pickups :D

oh and a 70s style strat headstock

[Knorre]

Thordendal's (meshuggah) rack.

[Nonikai]

Dopey Trout posted:

Bang on correct

There is a big difference between a spider and a vetta II

there is also a big difference between the two there, the one on top is a marvelous awesome rhythm guitarist

that fat ass down there is horrible

[Dopey Trout]

Nonikai posted:

There is a big difference between a spider and a vetta II

there is also a big difference between the two there, the one on top is a marvelous awesome rhythm guitarist

that fat ass down there is horrible

gerbile5 posted:

im p sure line 6 is fine for people who just want to play in their house for fun\beginners

[gerbile5]

shouldve said "spyder" in my post lemme edit that in

[Clovis]

Line 6 are good amps, don't forget their affiliation with Bogner. You guys don't hat Line 6, you hate their spider amps, because with them, you will never be satisfied with your tone. My mesa quad on the other hand... :smug:

[dirty harry]

LasGunz posted:

"duling" the poly finish doesn't remove the poly finish.. removing the poly finish removes the guitars paint so it's near impossible. i'm silly to think i can achieve the look i want with a poly guitar. i'm just going sand off the finish and refinish with a vintage/viesta red over a relic'd white finish. gold hardware and fender lace sensor pickups :D

oh and a 70s style strat headstock

Ah right, fair enough then. Good luck sanding it down, fiesta red strats look great.

[Xenocidebot]

LasGunz posted:

(note: not bashing Ibanez but they generally attract a certain kind of guitarist/genre)

I wasn't aware awesome was a genre.

Clovis posted:

My mesa quad on the other hand... :smug:

Jealous.

And no us hating Line 6 is a running gag. The cheap shit is bad, as is everybody's cheap shit, it just happens to drive amateurs on youtube to spectacular shitty covers more than anything else.

[Shibbey]

LasGunz posted:

(note: not bashing Ibanez but they generally attract a certain kind of guitarist/genre)

Perfectly designed for the most brutal of death metal.

[LasGunz]

The Line6 amps in college are so tempermental. You touch ONE setting ever so slightly and the whole thing goes fucking nuts. I genuinely do hate them.

They might have other nice amps but every amp I've used from them has been a bad experience.

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Shibbey posted:

Perfectly designed for the most brutal of death metal.

You're saying Ibanez sell and make more of those archtop style guitars than their pointy, beefed up, humbucking superstrats marketed to people who wear megadeath t-shirts with long hair and lacking social skills?

And remember I'm referring to a stereotype of sorts.. but they're stereotypes for a reason.. I'm not saying every Ibanez user is a metalhead who puts acoustic strings on their guitar so they can keep tension at drop C and below, I'm just saying that's generally who they attract. I'd like a nice looking Ibanez at some point but it doesn't really match what I play, though I'm sure it could I'm attached to Stratocasters and Telecasters.

[blezzy]

since this thread is more active than the bass thread i'd figure i'd ask here
whats a bass thats good for playing pretty much anything? (as i know some basses aren't good when it comes to playing funk, and i like to play funk.)

i've got a budget of 200ish. was thinking squier affinity series jazz bass, but i dunno. or maybe an ibanez? i got a friend who's got an ibanez bass, gio i think, and it plays funk and everything else perfectly. ;~)

i'm a noob

[Shibbey]

LasGunz posted:

You're saying Ibanez sell and make more of those archtop style guitars than their pointy, beefed up, humbucking superstrats marketed to people who wear megadeath t-shirts with long hair and lacking social skills?

And remember I'm referring to a stereotype of sorts.. but they're stereotypes for a reason.. I'm not saying every Ibanez user is a metalhead who puts acoustic strings on their guitar so they can keep tension at drop C and below, I'm just saying that's generally who they attract. I'd like a nice looking Ibanez at some point but it doesn't really match what I play, though I'm sure it could I'm attached to Stratocasters and Telecasters.

I have one of those "pointy, beefed up, humbucking superstrats" and to be honest it's far more well rounded than, say, a Dean or B.C Rich, it plays rock perfectly fine, and the little single coil in there is sweet. I understand they have a reputation, but Ibanez make good quality guitars that do far more than metal.

[Siminov]

That is basically what my guitar will look similar to when done...

Watcha think?

[Kingy_what]

blezzy posted:

since this thread is more active than the bass thread i'd figure i'd ask here
whats a bass thats good for playing pretty much anything? (as i know some basses aren't good when it comes to playing funk, and i like to play funk.)

i've got a budget of 200ish. was thinking squier affinity series jazz bass, but i dunno. or maybe an ibanez? i got a friend who's got an ibanez bass, gio i think, and it plays funk and everything else perfectly. ;~)

i'm a noob

Have a look at the SR series, but you probably won't get a good one for $200 but you might get a good one for £200.