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    Tuesday: Coalition Trying to Expand Libyan No-Fly Zone, US fighter jet crashes in Libya; crew members safe

    U.N.-backed forces are trying to expand a "no-fly" zone across much of northern Libya, after three days of airstrikes weakened Libyan leader Moammar Gadhafi's defenses. So far, a U.S. jet taking part in the operation has crash-landed.
    The international coalition plans to extend the zone from the rebel stronghold of Benghazi in the east to the capital, Tripoli, 1,000 kilometers to the west.
    Loyalist forces in Tripoli sent up anti-aircraft fire in an attempt to ward off strikes by fighter jets sent by the U.S., France and Britain.
    The U.S. confirmed Tuesday that one of its jets crash-landed in Libya the day before. The military said the likely cause was mechanical problems, not hostile fire. Both crewmembers are said to be safe.
    Despite the expanding "no-fly" zone coverage - part of a U.N. resolution to protect civilians from Libyan government attacks - opposition sources in two western towns report continuing fighting.
    Residents said pro-Gadhafi forces are on the offensive in both Misrata and Zintan, possibly in a bid to escape the aerial barrage. Strains in international backing for the mission increased Tuesday, with China joining the list of dissenters.
    China Foreign Ministry spokeswoman Jiang Yu said Beijing wants an immediate cease-fire and seeks a peaceful resolution to the conflict.
    China, like fellow critic Russia, abstained from backing the U.N. resolution authorizing the attacks, but did not veto the measure. The Arab League, which also initially supported the U.N. move, has also expressed reservations.
    All say they are concerned about possible civilian casualties and a humanitarian crisis, exactly what the measure aims to prevent.
    Pro-Gadhafi forces had retaken much of the territory claimed by rebels since a popular uprising turned into an armed rebellion last month. Government forces had entered Benghazi last Saturday, the day the international bombardment began.
    The Libyan government says the air assaults have killed dozens of civilians, but those claims could not be independently confirmed.
    Monday: Air attacks largely destroy Libyan defence forces


    Two days of relentless allied air attacks have largely destroyed Libya's military capabilities and left troops scattered and confused, according to a statement from the U.S. on Monday.

    The Pentagon said Libya's air defences have been crippled and Libyan leader Moammar Gadhafi's ground forces have been stopped from approaching the rebel stronghold of Benghazi -- Libya's second largest city.

    Navy Vice Admiral William E. Gortney said Monday the air strikes have been "very effective," and the Pentagon believes Gadhafi's military is "under significant stress."

    The report came one day after a cruise missile smashed into an administrative building inside Gadhafi's compound in Tripoli, as international forces kept up their military bombardment.

    It wasn't clear where Gadhafi was at the time the missile landed. Prior to the attack, the U.S. had said the Libyan leader wasn't the key target, but rather the goal was to protect civilians and stop Gadhafi's military advance against the rebels.

    Meanwhile the U.S., which has so far spearheaded the allied mission, said it planned to hand the reins of the mission over to Britain, France or NATO in a few days.

    On Sunday the Libyan government escorted journalists from at least two major news outlets to the scene of a rocket attack to view the damaged building said to be a Gadhafi command centre. The building stands near the Bedouin tent where Gadhafi has been known to entertain foreign guests.

    Half of the multistory building was destroyed, and scraps of metal from the missile lay scattered across the area.

    Explosions and anti-aircraft gunfire had erupted in the Libyan capital earlier in the night, signaling another round of coalition air assaults.

    The military operation began overnight Saturday to enforce a UN Security Council resolution that called for an immediate ceasefire in the fighting between Gadhafi forces and members of the month-old opposition movement.

    The resolution authorized a no-fly zone above the North African country and allowed UN members to use "all means necessary" to prevent attacks on civilians.

    Despite the international pressure, Gadhafi pledged Sunday to continue fighting. In a phone call to Libyan state television, he said his weapon depots had been opened up to allow civilians to arm themselves against the outsiders.

    "We promise you a long war," Gadhafi said.

    During a press conference at the Pentagon on Sunday afternoon, U.S. Navy Vice Adm. Bill Gortney said naval ships had launched 124 cruise missiles at military installations along the Libyan coast, followed by air assaults from French, British and American fighter jets and bombers against Gadhafi ground forces and air defences.

    Gortney said the initial assault had been "very effective in significantly degrading the (Libyan) regime's air defence capability," including its ability to launch some surface-to-air missiles.

    "We now have the capability to patrol the airspace over Libya, and we are doing just that," he told reporters.

    Military forces from Spain, Belgium, Denmark and Qatar are joining the military operation under U.S. command, Gortney said, but a coalition of countries would take over command in the coming days.

    Rebel reaction

    The coalition air strikes provided some relief to residents of Benghazi, the capital of the opposition movement that has been seeking to oust the Libyan leader.

    On Saturday, at least 120 people were killed in the eastern city of 700,000 as Gadhafi troops staged ground raids and air assaults. But rebel forces said the attacks on Benghazi had since been stunted by international forces.

    "Yesterday was a catastrophe," said Salwa el-Daghili, a member of the rebels' governing council. "Today, there is hope -- you can see it on the streets."

    U.S. military officials said the international assault would take aim at any Gadhafi forces that were attacking the opposition. And one of their targets was a line of tanks that had been moving towards Benghazi when it was destroyed.

    According to the opposition, the coalition attacks also struck an air force complex used by Gadhafi forces near Misrata, the last rebel-held city in the west, and a second air base outside Tripoli.

    Meanwhile state television claimed that 48 people died in the U.S. and European strikes and that Gadhafi's supporters were converging on airports as human shields. Neither report could be independently verified.

    The Arab League, whose support for a no-fly zone last week helped overcome reluctance in the West for action in Libya, criticized the military operation Sunday. Amr Moussa, the organization's secretary general, said that coalition assaults had gone beyond what his organization backed.

    "What happened differs from the no-fly zone objectives," he said Sunday. "What we want is civilians' protection not shelling more civilians."

    However, after holding an emergency meeting in Cairo late on Sunday, the Arab League reaffirmed its support for the no-fly zone. France also said Sunday that warplanes from the Arab nation of Qatar would take part in the international military strikes.

    The U.S. military has maintained the goal of the mission is to establish peace and protect civilians, not to oust Gadhafi.

    With files from The Associated Press
    Live stream: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-12776418

    Saturday, Official: U.S. fires missiles on Libyan air defenses

    (CNN) -- The U.S. military launched its first airstrikes on Libyan leader Moammar Gadhafi's air defenses, a senior military official said Saturday.
    U.S. Tomahawk missiles landed in the area around Tripoli and Misrata, the official said, adding that the action was taken after Gadhafi failed to comply with a cease-fire.
    "He's clearly been on the offensive," the official said of Gadhafi. "He said that he was going to do a cease-fire and he continued to move his forces into Benghazi."
    The attacks on Gadhafi's forces will be part of a multiphase approach in a sequential and deliberate manner, according to the official.
    "The U.S. will be at the front end of this, providing the unique capabilities that the U.S. has," the official said.


    RANDOM UPDATES: Saturday
    #2345 French denies this \/
    #2319: Al-Jazeera's Rawya Rageh tweets: "Captured #AlJazeera team in #Libya: Lotfi Messaoudi (Tunisia), Ahmed Vall OuldAddin (Mauritania), Ammar Hamdan (Norway) Kamel Atalua (UK)"
    #2309: LibyanYouthMovement tweets: "Be4 the the coalition started air strikes, we predicted mass defections by the remaining forces, looks like we may start to see them #Libya"
    #2304: LibyanYouthMovement tweets: "ALL, yes ALL Gaddafi forces in ZINTAN have joined the #Feb17 revolution, Zintan now fully armed and ready #Libya #gaddaficrimes"
    #2249 Libyan TV claims a french plane has been shot down
    #1904: A US defence official tells Reuters that the US Navy has three submarines in the Mediterranean preparing for operations in Libya.
    #1829 French military jet opens fire in Libya


    Key points
    #The first shots have been fired in Libya by French military jets enforcing the no-fly zone voted for by the UN
    #French aircraft are preventing forces loyal to Libyan leader Col Gaddafi from attacking the rebel-held city of Benghazi, French President Nicolas Sarkozy says after a meeting of world leaders in Paris
    #French aircraft also flew over "all Libyan territory" on reconnaissance missions, according to French military sources
    #Dutch Prime Minister Mark Rutte tells journalists he believed British, French and Canadian aircraft would launch the first airstrikes, a BBC correspondent reports
    #Earlier, Pro-Gaddafi forces launched an assault on Benghazi, a BBC journalist witnessed. A jet appears to have been shot down over the city



    French President Nicolas Sarkozy said after an emergency summit in Paris on Saturday that France has already taken military action against Libya.

    PARIS — Top officials from the United States, Europe and the Arab world have announced immediate military action to protect civilians amid combat between Libyan leader Moammar Gadhafi's forces and rebel fighters.

    Sarkozy said "our determination is total."

    Earlier Saturday, Libyan government troops forces stormed into the rebel capital of Benghazi, apparently ignoring a proclaimed cease-fire and potentially complicating any allied military action.
    http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/...rticle1948433/
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  2. Post #2
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    About time.
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    Late response by the UN, but hopefully not too late.
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    Was it a Libyan warplane shot down?
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    Was it a Libyan warplane shot down?
    Secretly yes perhaps?
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    But seriously who is Gadaffi to make threats against the west if we intervine in his slaughter of civilians?
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    So America Bitches (Canada and Australia) havent gone in after America?


    Yet anyways...
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    It's funny how the tone leading up to this was absolutely nothing like the tone leading up to Iraq.

    Take note of it. easier to point out bullshit that way.
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    So America Bitches (Canada and Australia) havent gone in after America?


    Yet anyways...
    Silly, Australia isn't our bitch. They're an America/England hybrid.
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    No more angry letters and talk, now we're finally negotiating with JDAMs. My faith in the UN is restored.

    And I promise never to make a French Military joke again!
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    Was it a Libyan warplane shot down?
    I heard the rebels actually claimed that was one of theirs.
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    It's funny how the tone leading up to this was absolutely nothing like the tone leading up to Iraq.

    Take note of it. easier to point out bullshit that way.
    maybe that's because the situations are completely different, both in the country and the way in which we're intervening
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    UN just needs to pull another desert storm.
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    UN just needs to pull another desert storm.
    They should but there is no reason for them to do so at the moment.

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    I'm just so glad they're finally doing something NOW, rather than "in the coming hours"
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    Am I understanding this right? Everyone got beat to being the first in military action by the French?
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    Am I understanding this right? Everyone got beat to being the first in military action by the French?
    Yup.
    Get to the bunkers, the world is ending.
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    Am I understanding this right? Everyone got beat to being the first in military action by the French?
    What, the French acted first? What did they do, give them a white flag?
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    Am I understanding this right? Everyone got beat to being the first in military action by the French?
    It's because of new military technology that allows them to utilize their ability to run away for getting to the combat zone, meaning they can reach any point on the planet in under an hour.
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    What, the French acted first? What did they do, give them a white flag?
    Obviously they were dropping their spare white flags for when Gadaffi wants to surrender.
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    Am I understanding this right? Everyone got beat to being the first in military action by the French?
    Obviously they're going to finish this before everyone else gets to it and laugh at all the other pilots that sit around pining.

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    Am I understanding this right? Everyone got beat to being the first in military action by the French?
    The French President was quoted saying 'We will strike at the very heart of the French stereotype, we will not surrender, probably'
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    The French President was noted as saying 'we will strike at the very heart of the french stereotype, we will not surrender, probably'
    However they will go on strike, and blockade anything important with burning piles of leaves.
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    However they will go on strike, and blockade anything important with burning piles of leaves.
    Wait, are we talking about the French or British car manufacturers?
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    Link to the video with the plane crashing to the ground, pretty please?

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    Haha everyone's joining in!

    I mean, even Denmark sent 6 fighters!

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    Haha everyone's joining in!

    I mean, even Denmark sent 6 fighters!
    I bet this is all a cover so that the airforces of the world can have one big beach party.
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    I wonder what's going through Gadhaffi's mind right now.

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    I wonder what's going through Gadhaffi's mind right now.
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    I wonder what's going through Gadhaffi's mind right now.
    "Why don't they invite me to attack Libya? :( Oh yeah that's my country. Damit!"
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    I bet this is all a cover so that the airforces of the world can have one big beach party.
    "Hey Japan! Come on down to the beach and enjoy the --"

    "Dude, He just weted himself!"

    "Oh shit, Sorry Japan!"


    Too soon?
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    I wonder what's going through Gadhaffi's mind right now.
    :derp:

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    "Hey Japan! Come on down to the beach and enjoy the --"

    "Dude, He just weted himself!"

    "Oh shit, Sorry Japan!"


    Too soon?
    Not too soon, just a crap joke. Let me fix it for you.

    "Hey Japan, want to come with us and catch some waves?"

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    Not too soon, just a crap joke. Let me fix it for you.

    "Hey Japan, want to come with us and catch some waves?"

    Oooh arnt you clever.

    I wonder what George Bush thinks about all this.
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    Oooh arnt you clever.

    I wonder what George Bush thinks about all this.
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    Do note that the French are the first because Sarkozy is trying to get a popularity boost.

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    Thank you so much for posting this.
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    Am I understanding this right? Everyone got beat to being the first in military action by the French?
    First in, first out?



    I don't like to joke about the french though..
    They have their reasons.

    They want to deal with it, probably because all Libyan refugees want to go to France.

  40. Post #40
    Jsm
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    1703: A French warplane fired its first shot in Libya at 1645 GMT, the Defence Ministry in Paris has confirmed.
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